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Seeking-Christ

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#42
Read the story of when Jacob wrestled with God. Or don’t.
I already know that story, and that story was for Jacob. Why would you assume that all of us is like Jacob? Jacob wasn't even a Christian.
 

Aerials1978

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I already know that story, and that story was for Jacob. Why would you assume that all of us is like Jacob? Jacob wasn't even a Christian.
I already know that story, and that story was for Jacob. Why would you assume that all of us is like Jacob? Jacob wasn't even a Christian.
Jacob was a self-center and foolish man. God had plans for him, but he first needed to be broken and remolded. God changed his name to Israel after that encounter in which he was injured. How about Paul’s conversation? God told Ananias that Paul would suffer for His gospel. Are you seeing a pattern or do you just want to be argumentative and trite?
 
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#44
Jacob was a self-center and foolish man. God had plans for him, but he first needed to be broken and remolded. God changed his name to Israel after that encounter in which he was injured. How about Paul’s conversation? God told Ananias that Paul would suffer for His gospel. Are you seeing a pattern or do you just want to be argumentative and trite?
Again, God worked that way with Jacob, and He worked that way with Paul. How can you translate that everyone? He didn't work that way with John? Did He?
 

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Again, God worked that way with Jacob, and He worked that way with Paul. How can you translate that everyone? He didn't work that way with John? Did He?
Yes, John was beaten, arrested, and exiled to Patmos. Read Eusebius.
 

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#46
Again, God worked that way with Jacob, and He worked that way with Paul. How can you translate that everyone? He didn't work that way with John? Did He?
There he was given the Revelation.
 
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#48
Persecution was pretty standard for Christians back then. But that wasn't God breaking them down. That was by people who hated God.
 

Aerials1978

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Persecution was pretty standard for Christians back then. But that wasn't God breaking them down. That was by people who hated God.
Do you what the suffering servant was? Do you really know anything at all? This isn’t to belittle you, but you have misconception of Biblical theology
 
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#51
Do you what the suffering servant was? Do you really know anything at all? This isn’t to belittle you, but you have misconception of Biblical theology
There are lots of different Bible Theologies, and I have studied three of them. Bible theology tends to mess people up.
 

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The suffering servant was Jesus.
Tell me something, how can you define something when an individual is lacking the basic knowledge of it. That’s what theology is. I don’t understand how you can simply dismiss that. That’s what I meant by a point of reference. What do you have to stand on?
 

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I don't have any kids. I don't think that everyone that commits suicide is selfish. I think most people who commit suicide just want the pain to go away.
You do not live in a vacuum. Someone cares for you. God cares for you. He did not give you life just for you to end it all prematurely. Just before I was saved, I thought about suicide all the time. Fear of what might happen after death restrained me. It sure was not the thought of my parents, family or my colleagues and a the few friends I had.
 
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joecoten

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#56
I have grown children with whom I have little in common. I only see one because I live with him. I have grandchildren who I barely know. I have no friends. I haven't seen my siblings in nearly a decade. I rarely hear from them. They all have lives. I though, "There must be something wrong with me."
I'm the sick guy who lives with a lot of pain. If it wasn't for money, I would seldom have any contact with anyone besides my doctor and pharmacist. I have a hard time feeding myself. I should probably be in a nursing home.
I qualify for my government's M.A.I.D. program (medical assistance in dying). They will supply me with a lethal dose of Nembutal, if I so choose. This is my reality. I am not feeling sorry for myself.
If I died, my oldest would be sad for awhile. He smokes pot all the time and that would ease things for him. I contribute nothing. I've suffered every minute of every day for 20 years.
When I went to end my life, the Lord stopped me. I'd been asking Him to end my life for some time. Awhile back, I was in a coma and I died. After they failed to restart my heart, and as they were filling out my time of death, my heart started beating again. I later remembered seeing Yeshua in the New Jerusalem.
If I ended my life, I would go to Him. I've known Him since before I was in the womb. He loves me forever and I'm always going to be with Him. I know this, regardless of what anyone's theology says. I don't know about others...I just know about me.
"Seeking Christ" is just being honest about where he's at. He probably hopes talking about this can help get him to a better place emotionally. When a person lives alone in an unchanging void for many years, it can be difficult to hope.
Last week, I thought I needed to read from Proverbs. I flipped open my bible and read a line from it. In my spirit, I stepped out of a marsh onto a rock. It felt good to be alive.
A few days later I went to a new church. They invited me to be part of their community. It felt good to be around other believers.
"To everything there is a season, and a time for every purpose under heaven." - Ecclesiastes 3:1
I write, play, and sing songs to the Lord. This helps me.

I need to know You
I want to see You
I must commune with You
I choose to love You

When I am here with You alone
Kneeling before Your throne
My heart has found it's home
With You...once again. -tc
 
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Seeking-Christ

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#57
I have grown children with whom I have little in common. I only see one because I live with him. I have grandchildren who I barely know. I have no friends. I haven't seen my siblings in nearly a decade. I rarely hear from them. They all have lives. I though, "There must be something wrong with me."
I'm the sick guy who lives with a lot of pain. If it wasn't for money, I would seldom have any contact with anyone besides my doctor and pharmacist. I have a hard time feeding myself. I should probably be in a nursing home.
I qualify for my government's M.A.I.D. program (medical assistance in dying). They will supply me with a lethal dose of Nembutal, if I so choose. This is my reality. I am not feeling sorry for myself.
If I died, my oldest would be sad for awhile. He smokes pot all the time and that would ease things for him. I contribute nothing. I've suffered every minute of every day for 20 years.
When I went to end my life, the Lord stopped me. I'd been asking Him to end my life for some time. Awhile back, I was in a coma and I died. After they failed to restart my heart, and as they were filling out my time of death, my heart started beating again. I later remembered seeing Yeshua in the New Jerusalem.
If I ended my life, I would go to Him. I've known Him since before I was in the womb. He loves me forever and I'm always going to be with Him. I know this, regardless of what anyone's theology says. I don't know about others...I just know about me.
"Seeking Christ" is just being honest about where he's at. He probably hopes talking about this can help get him to a better place emotionally. When a person lives alone in an unchanging void for many years, it can be difficult to hope.
Last week, I thought I needed to read from Proverbs. I flipped open my bible and read a line from it. In my spirit, I stepped out of a marsh onto a rock. It felt good to be alive.
A few days later I went to a new church. They invited me to be part of their community. It felt good to be around other believers.
"To everything there is a season, and a time for every purpose under heaven." - Ecclesiastes 3:1
I write, play, and sing songs to the Lord. This helps me.

I need to know You
I want to see You
I must commune with You
I choose to love You

When I am here with You alone
Kneeling before Your throne
My heart has found it's home
With You...once again. -tc
I just printed this. I need to look at it closer. But it looks very very very thoughtful!
 
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Seeking-Christ

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#58
I have grown children with whom I have little in common. I only see one because I live with him. I have grandchildren who I barely know. I have no friends. I haven't seen my siblings in nearly a decade. I rarely hear from them. They all have lives. I though, "There must be something wrong with me."
I'm the sick guy who lives with a lot of pain. If it wasn't for money, I would seldom have any contact with anyone besides my doctor and pharmacist. I have a hard time feeding myself. I should probably be in a nursing home.
I qualify for my government's M.A.I.D. program (medical assistance in dying). They will supply me with a lethal dose of Nembutal, if I so choose. This is my reality. I am not feeling sorry for myself.
If I died, my oldest would be sad for awhile. He smokes pot all the time and that would ease things for him. I contribute nothing. I've suffered every minute of every day for 20 years.
When I went to end my life, the Lord stopped me. I'd been asking Him to end my life for some time. Awhile back, I was in a coma and I died. After they failed to restart my heart, and as they were filling out my time of death, my heart started beating again. I later remembered seeing Yeshua in the New Jerusalem.
If I ended my life, I would go to Him. I've known Him since before I was in the womb. He loves me forever and I'm always going to be with Him. I know this, regardless of what anyone's theology says. I don't know about others...I just know about me.
"Seeking Christ" is just being honest about where he's at. He probably hopes talking about this can help get him to a better place emotionally. When a person lives alone in an unchanging void for many years, it can be difficult to hope.
Last week, I thought I needed to read from Proverbs. I flipped open my bible and read a line from it. In my spirit, I stepped out of a marsh onto a rock. It felt good to be alive.
A few days later I went to a new church. They invited me to be part of their community. It felt good to be around other believers.
"To everything there is a season, and a time for every purpose under heaven." - Ecclesiastes 3:1
I write, play, and sing songs to the Lord. This helps me.

I need to know You
I want to see You
I must commune with You
I choose to love You

When I am here with You alone
Kneeling before Your throne
My heart has found it's home
With You...once again. -tc
I read this. I'm sorry about what your going through.

Dear Heavenly Father, I thank you that joecoten found a Church. I ask that you will do a special work in his son's life, I ask that He will quit smoking pot, and get his life put together. I ask that other people in joecoten's family will have a change of heart and come back and be a family to him again. Lord I ask that you would heal his pain. In Jesus Name Amen.

It is nice to meet you, I like it when I meet people who understand what I'm going through, and the purpose of my writings.
 
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joecoten

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#59
I read this. I'm sorry about what your going through.

Dear Heavenly Father, I thank you that joecoten found a Church. I ask that you will do a special work in his son's life, I ask that He will quit smoking pot, and get his life put together. I ask that other people in joecoten's family will have a change of heart and come back and be a family to him again. Lord I ask that you would heal his pain. In Jesus Name Amen.

It is nice to meet you, I like it when I meet people who understand what I'm going through, and the purpose of my writings.
It's nice to meet you, too. Thank you for the prayer. The fellowship of suffering. I've found that in the midst of it, He is still faithful. Have you ever heard this song?
 
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Seeking-Christ

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#60
It's nice to meet you, too. Thank you for the prayer. The fellowship of suffering. I've found that in the midst of it, He is still faithful. Have you ever heard this song?
I will listen too it later. I got to go eat. :)