We the new chosen people, are Jews no longer chosen people?

[Beckie]

Galatians refers to being justified by faith verses works. It is not saying that God doesn't have a special plan for the Jews. The 12 tribes spoke about in Revelation says He does.
The Lord speaks of a time when Judah and Ephraim will be made one in the new covenant. Jeremiah 31:31.
He speaks of a time when He will make the 2 sticks, or houses, of Israel one. Ezekiel 37
If you want to negate what He said in the O.T., that's your business. If you want to say that He didn't really mean 12 literal tribes, biological descendants of Jacob/Israel, that's your business.
For me, I am glad to be part of the commonwealth of Israel.

2Jn 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
2Jn 1:8 Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought, but that we receive a full reward.
2Jn 1:9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
2Jn 1:10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:
2Jn 1:11 For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.

 

[joecoten]

You are assuming that I am saying something that I'm not. That is due to your religious indoctrination and is on you.
"Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." - John 14:6

 

[Beckie]

What religious indoctrination would that be? I am curious as to what you think i believe

 

[Jocund]

It is not saying that God doesn't have a special plan for the Jews. The 12 tribes spoke about in Revelation says He does.

Using the logic you have presented here, that means that God also has a special plan for those that do not represent the 12 tribes of Israel mentioned in Rev 7. And those Israelite individuals are not brought into the fold by reason of their flesh, as people will be saved from all nations/ethnicities, but it is by faith in Christ that people are saved. Being from a particular ethnicity does not make one more "special" than any other saved person. Righteousness in Christ is key to reward, not one's flesh or lineage.

 

[joecoten]

Using the logic you have presented here, that means that God also has a special plan for those that do not represent the 12 tribes of Israel mentioned in Rev 7. And those Israelite individuals are not brought into the fold by reason of their flesh, as people will be saved from all nations/ethnicities, but it is by faith in Christ that people are saved. Being from a particular ethnicity does not make one more "special" than any other saved person. Righteousness in Christ is key to reward, not one's flesh or lineage.

Once again I'm having words put in my mouth. I didn't say more special. We are all the way God made us. If He has a certain purpose for a certain group of people, I suppose that's His business. I'm sure He has a special purpose for each one of us.
The way I look at it is...the bottom line is that He will do what He will do and I don't have to worry about it. The most important thing is that we are His.
More Israeli Jews have been saved in the past 20 years than in the prior 2,000, thanks to the internet. The last I heard, there were more than 30,000 Jewish followers of Jesus in Israel, not to mention all of the Arab converts. This knowledge brings me great joy!

 

[Beckie]

Amen
More Israeli Jews have been saved in the past 20 years than in the prior 2,000, thanks to the internet. The last I heard, there were more than 30,000 Jewish followers of Jesus in Israel, not to mention all of the Arab converts. This knowledge brings me great joy!

Amen

 

[BroTan]

Christ is God the Son, one person of the 3-person God, who is one.

In Hebrews 10: 10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. 11 And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins: 12 but this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God; 13 from henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool.

I always wonder who is sitting on the left side, the Bible never says, or maybe someone can show.

 

[Beckie]

right hand man
The person with whom someone of power relates to best. Derived from Jesus sitting at the right hand of God.

 

[joecoten]

In Hebrews 10: 10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. 11 And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins: 12 but this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God; 13 from henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool.

I always wonder who is sitting on the left side, the Bible never says, or maybe someone can show.

I can't prove it, but I know in my heart that it is Ruach HaKodesh. Some may say it is my imagination, but I believe that during prayer I've been aware that He is there. One time while in deep prayer, I became aware of a strange "noise" (not audible) coming from my right. It took me awhile to realize that it was the Holy Spirit groaning, interceding for me. I have a wild imagination, so make of it what you will.

 

[crossnote]

"Right hand of God" is an anthromorphism. There is no right or left side with God.
'with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning' James 1:17b

 

[BroTan]

I can't prove it, but I know in my heart that it is Ruach HaKodesh. Some may say it is my imagination, but I believe that during prayer I've been aware that He is there. One time while in deep prayer, I became aware of a strange "noise" (not audible) coming from my right. It took me awhile to realize that it was the Holy Spirit groaning, interceding for me. I have a wild imagination, so make of it what you will.

I don't doubt that you had a spiritual experience but according to the Bible the Holy Spirit is an angel, not God. If ye love me, keep my commandments. And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter that he may abide with you for ever; Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. (John 14:15-17)

Note the most important key to eternal life, "If ye love me, keep my commandments." If you keep the Lord's commandment the comforter will dwell with you and lead you and guide you into all truths. Now, what is the comforter's or the Holy Ghost job?

He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me. These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you. But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. (John 14:24-26)

Now, what is the comforter's (which is the Holy Ghost) occupation? He shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. When Gabriel was sent to Daniel he gave instructions by saying that, "I am now come forth to give thee skill and understanding. Therefore understand the matter, and consider the vision." What does instruction mean? It means to teach! What is the Comforter’s which the Holy Ghost job is? He shall teach you all things. When Gabriel was sent to Zacharias he gave him instructions by saying? "Fear not, Zacharias: for thy prayer is heard; and thy wife Elisabeth shall bear thee a son, and thou shalt call his name John." When Gabriel was sent to Marry he gave her instructions by saying. "Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with God. And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS. When Moses saw the angel of the Lord in the burning bush, the angel gave him instructions to go in to Egypt and lead the Lord's people out of bondage. Let's go into the 16th chapter of John

I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will show you things to come. (John 16:12-13)

Note what the Lord says, "The Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth." What else did this spirit do before the Lord came on the seen? He spoke not of himself; but whatsoever he was told by the Lord, and what ever he was told that is exactly what he spoke. When Gabriel spoke to the people we have pointed out, what did Gabriel do? He showed them things to come.

 

[BroTan]

"Right hand of God" is an anthromorphism. There is no right or left side with God.
'with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning' James 1:17b

In the scriptures it's written in Psalm 110: 1The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool. 2 The LORD shall send the rod of thy strength out of Zion: Rule thou in the midst of thine enemies. 5 The Lord at thy right hand Shall strike through kings in the day of his wrath. 6 He shall judge among the heathen, he shall fill the places with the dead bodies He shall wound the heads over many countries.

I'm sticking with what the book say!

 

[crossnote]

In the scriptures it's written in Psalm 110: 1The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool. 2 The LORD shall send the rod of thy strength out of Zion: Rule thou in the midst of thine enemies. 5 The Lord at thy right hand Shall strike through kings in the day of his wrath. 6 He shall judge among the heathen, he shall fill the places with the dead bodies He shall wound the heads over many countries.

I'm sticking with what the book say!

Have it your way...

(Psa 139:7) Where shall I go from your Spirit? Or where shall I flee from your presence?
(Psa 139:8) If I ascend to heaven, you are there! If I make my bed in Sheol, you are there!
(Psa 139:9) If I take the wings of the morning and dwell in the uttermost parts of the sea,
(Psa 139:10) even there your hand shall lead me, and your right hand shall hold me.
(Psa 139:11) If I say, “Surely the darkness shall cover me, and the light about me be night,”
(Psa 139:12) even the darkness is not dark to you; the night is bright as the day, for darkness is as light with you.

 

[JaumeJ]

If you are Messianic Jew ...that is fantastic and don't change anything ...but don't pretend a regular "Jew" is someone that praises GOD. Everything changed in 70 A.D. They don't get to call themselves "Jews" without a High Priest or Atonement. Did you skip this part of my post?:


Galatians 3:28-29
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Ephesians 2:14-18
Eph 2:14
For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;
Eph 2:15
Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
Eph 2:16
And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:
Eph 2:17
And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh.
Eph 2:18
For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.
Eph 2:19
Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;
Eph 2:20
And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;

My post does not say allwho are called Jews, itmakes reference exclusively to those who are Jews by translation, asexplained by Pul i.
Also, it seems you are using the term Jew as the umbrella name of the denominations today underr that heading of Judaism. There was no such denomination at the time of our Savior.
If any individual within the two flocks brought toeghter by our Savior praises God in spirit and truth, this is being a Jew.
This I repeat the teaching in Revelation, we are to beware of those who say they are Jews but are not.