Do you believe in (OSAS) Once Saved, Always Saved?
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ile t[tus when He willrQUOTE="ResidentAlien, post: 4848762, member: 306907"]I'm forgiven and justified (Romans 8); in that sense I'm saved now. But salvation isn't complete until the very end. It's not based on works but in persevering in the faith.[/QUOTE]
excuse me...do you know what ....savED ...means?
If you do then be reminded that ...ED...is history that can't be Changed. That is the reason we are ......born again ......while on this earth.
I doubt that God appreciates any one of us declaring our eternal salvation for eternity before He judges us.
Can you please explain that point?
excuse me...do you know what ....savED ...means?
If you do then be reminded that ...ED...is history that can't be Changed. That is the reason we are ......born again ......while on this earth.
I doubt that God appreciates any one of us declaring our eternal salvation for eternity before He judges us.
Can you please explain that point?
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agreed. it's the whole point of us coming together to speak of Him here. as one body.
we have to remember that all of us here are real people, real souls, with all kinds of defects and misunderstandings -- that we are really speaking to real persons.
we have to remember to love each other =]
please forgive me when i forget
we have to remember that all of us here are real people, real souls, with all kinds of defects and misunderstandings -- that we are really speaking to real persons.
we have to remember to love each other =]
please forgive me when i forget
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Agreed!
Hebrews 10 is very clear. Those truly sanctified by the Blood of Christ can indeed sin willfully and fall away. It is God's Grace that preserves us from such possibilities, and helps us persevere till the end. We must pray that we be among those who persevere.
Hebrews:
"26If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, 27but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God. 28Anyone who rejected the law of Moses died without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. 29How much more severely do you think someone deserves to be punished who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, who has treated as an unholy thing the blood of the covenant that sanctified them, and who has insulted the Spirit of grace? 30For we know him who said, “It is mine to avenge; I will repay,” d and again, “The Lord will judge his people.” e 31It is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
32Remember those earlier days after you had received the light, when you endured in a great conflict full of suffering. 33Sometimes you were publicly exposed to insult and persecution; at other times you stood side by side with those who were so treated. 34You suffered along with those in prison and joyfully accepted the confiscation of your property, because you knew that you yourselves had better and lasting possessions. 35So do not throw away your confidence; it will be richly rewarded.
36You need to persevere so that when you have done the will of God, you will receive what he has promised. 37For,
“In just a little while,
he who is coming will come
and will not delay.” f
38And,
“But my righteous g one will live by faith.
And I take no pleasure
in the one who shrinks back.”
39But we do not belong to those who shrink back and are destroyed, but to those who have faith and are saved."
Hebrews 10 is very clear. Those truly sanctified by the Blood of Christ can indeed sin willfully and fall away. It is God's Grace that preserves us from such possibilities, and helps us persevere till the end. We must pray that we be among those who persevere.
Hebrews:
"26If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, 27but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God. 28Anyone who rejected the law of Moses died without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. 29How much more severely do you think someone deserves to be punished who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, who has treated as an unholy thing the blood of the covenant that sanctified them, and who has insulted the Spirit of grace? 30For we know him who said, “It is mine to avenge; I will repay,” d and again, “The Lord will judge his people.” e 31It is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
32Remember those earlier days after you had received the light, when you endured in a great conflict full of suffering. 33Sometimes you were publicly exposed to insult and persecution; at other times you stood side by side with those who were so treated. 34You suffered along with those in prison and joyfully accepted the confiscation of your property, because you knew that you yourselves had better and lasting possessions. 35So do not throw away your confidence; it will be richly rewarded.
36You need to persevere so that when you have done the will of God, you will receive what he has promised. 37For,
“In just a little while,
he who is coming will come
and will not delay.” f
38And,
“But my righteous g one will live by faith.
And I take no pleasure
in the one who shrinks back.”
39But we do not belong to those who shrink back and are destroyed, but to those who have faith and are saved."
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According to the deceived ones who subscribe to this nonsense, it is the moment you sincerely recite the "sinner's prayer". How trite. If only people would refer back to the one institution given to us by God which is supposed to exemplify our relationship with Him: marriage.
When a groom and his bride get married, are they "once married, always married"? No, one or both can decide to end the relationship...God will never walk away from us, but we're free to walk away from Him.
He's coming back for His bride, people.
When a groom and his bride get married, are they "once married, always married"? No, one or both can decide to end the relationship...God will never walk away from us, but we're free to walk away from Him.
He's coming back for His bride, people.
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The "you will be saved" should be enough 
Obviously for some, sadly, it is not
Obviously for some, sadly, it is not
"Do as I say, not as I do, Jesus".
However, Proverbs 28:13 KJV shatters such rose-colored reading glasses by making it abundantly clear, "...but whoso confesseth and forsaketh (their sins) shall have mercy".
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Jesus asked, "And why call ye Me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?" in Luke 6:46 KJV.
In our modern vernacular, Jesus might have said, "Why do you OSAS folks talk the talk but don't walk the walk?"
It is foolish to think these to whom Jesus is speaking are "saved" and only fools do so.
In our modern vernacular, Jesus might have said, "Why do you OSAS folks talk the talk but don't walk the walk?"
It is foolish to think these to whom Jesus is speaking are "saved" and only fools do so.
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