Children’s Risk of Death Increases by 5100% Following Covid-19 Vaccination Compared to Unvaccinated Children According to Official ONS Data

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tourist

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You both can stop condemning people to a fabricated, mythological place that "Humans"(Catholisim) created to scare people into submission. The God of the Heavens, Jehovah would not torment a human eternally for what 70 to 80 short years of bad choices or ignorance. Do your research on the origin of hellfire or Hell. In the Bible it represents the grave (Sheol, Hades) or place or burial under the earth. Stop!
Point out to me the post where I condemned anyone. It doesn't exist.
 

ZNP

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I wouldn’t say the her views on abortion are irrelevant. She has made predictions over the last decade that have not panned out. Yes, she indulges in conspiracy theories and that should be taken into consideration.
If you are looking at someone to take a position of authority in the church then I would think their views on abortion are very important. But if she is reviewing medical documents about a vaccine to determine if there is criminality then that is irrelevant. I would be far more concerned with my kids kindergarten teacher and her views on abortion and yet I am not permitted to ask that.

The fact that she is controversial and has enemies is a good thing, you can't be on the front lines of the war and not have enemies.

To my understanding nothing that she is sharing is her "prediction". She is simply going through the studies done by Pfizer on the vaccine. If a study is relevant to the safety and efficacy of the vaccine and it was not shared with the public even though Pfizer had the study and the vaccine was being mandated or administered to people then that violates the law. That is not a "prediction" it is the law. By law you cannot administer this vaccine without informed consent and people by law cannot give informed consent if they do not have access to all the studies.
 

ZNP

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Why do people always quote from non-repretable sources. Who is the "Office for National Statistics" they are clearly not apart of the World Health Organization or Microbiologist or even Doctors. Human have been getting immunization forever for Polio, Measles, Mumps, Chicken Pox, Flu, Diptheria and so many others. Stop this madness about this vaccine. Yes there are people who will die from it, but that is with any drug you take someone will fall in the risk category. Please stop irrational thinking and posting to scare people out of living longer with a simple vaccine. I took the vaccine, and I am not dieing from it, but for the first winter in years I didn't even contract a cold!!!
There is no way I would give the WHO or CDC or FDA a monopoly on the truth. That is how you get tyrants. One approved narrative and all others are censored. No one is allowed to think for themselves, you do what you are told.
 

Nehemiah6

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The Office for National Statistics has revealed without realising it that children are up to 52 times more likely to die following Covid-19 vaccination than children who have not had the Covid-19 vaccine.
This is not surprising in the least. Injecting children unnecessarily with lethal and toxic substances when there was absolutely no need for it was planned mass murder. The real issue is that no one is holding the criminals accountable.

There has been a lot of talk about "disinformation" lately. Well the whole COVID Scamdemic propaganda was disinformation on a daily basis for two years. Including the nature of the bogus vaccines and how they were supposed to "cure" coronavirus. All these so-called vaccines should have been banned right from the start since the clinical trials had already proved how useless and dangerous they are. This was gene therapy, and the results have been disastrous.

But all parents had a solemn responsibility to thoroughly investigate the hype and the fear-mongering, and find out whether children should even be subjected to vaccination for COVID. It was quite clear from the start that coronavirus was not a serious risk for children or young people (or even adults under age 40). But all that was buried under COVID disinformation, while the deaths "with" COVID were inflated and the deaths "from" COVID were ignored. Then when the "vaccines: started killing off people and maiming them seriously, the process was reversed and this information was either not recorded, or suppressed, or deliberately falsified. Pfizer stands to make a 100 billion dollars from this criminal conspiracy.
 

ZNP

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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...-vaccine-40-times-higher-previously-recorded/

German Study: Number of Those Suffering Severe Complications After Taking COVID Vaccine Is 40 Times Higher Than Previously Recorded

A new German study with around 40,000 participants concluded that severe complications after receiving the COVID vaccine.

The study found that those suffering serious complications is 40 times higher than previously recorded.

"The number of severe complications after vaccination against Sars-CoV-2 is 40 times higher than previously recorded by the Paul Ehrlich Institute (PEI)," a study with around 40,000 participants by the Berlin Charité concludes.
 

ZNP

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But all parents had a solemn responsibility to thoroughly investigate the hype and the fear-mongering, and find out whether children should even be subjected to vaccination for COVID.
I would qualify this. Every pastor who is shepherding a flock and must answer to the Lord for that was responsible to investigate the hype. If christians in the church trusted their pastor and the pastor encouraged them to be vaccinated then surely the pastor must answer for that before the Lord.

I would also reject those who felt it was reasonable to trust the authorities. The only Christians who would have said that were those who were not in the word and were not watching for the Lord's return. Since 2017 the signs of the Lord's imminent return were everywhere. The pandemic itself was a major sign.

I would also point out that those who think it is irresponsible to be "scaring" people about getting a vaccine as though this is some kind of crime to investigate an experimental vaccine, they will bear the greatest judgement.
 

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Why do people always quote from non-repretable sources. Who is the "Office for National Statistics" they are clearly not apart of the World Health Organization or Microbiologist or even Doctors. Human have been getting immunization forever for Polio, Measles, Mumps, Chicken Pox, Flu, Diptheria and so many others. Stop this madness about this vaccine. Yes there are people who will die from it, but that is with any drug you take someone will fall in the risk category. Please stop irrational thinking and posting to scare people out of living longer with a simple vaccine. I took the vaccine, and I am not dieing from it, but for the first winter in years I didn't even contract a cold!!!
I think the responsible thing to do is commit to the research one fosters upon others.

https://www.gov.uk/government/organisations/office-for-national-statistics

"Office for National Statistics"
The Office for National Statistics is the UK's largest independent producer of official statistics and the recognised national statistical institute of the UK.
 

ZNP

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Rosemaryx

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Wow such a shame. All these unsaved children will go to hell.
2 Samuel 12:23
But now that he is dead, why should I go on fasting? Can I bring him back again? I will go to him, but he will not return to me.”

I believe King David knew that he will see his son in heaven...
 

Eli1

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2 Samuel 12:23
But now that he is dead, why should I go on fasting? Can I bring him back again? I will go to him, but he will not return to me.”

I believe King David knew that he will see his son in heaven...
Yes, you believe that. I believe something else. The guy next door believes something else. I’m well aware of this.
But to scare parents into believing that 52% of their kids will die from vaccinations … that’s just a new level of crazy.
 

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Yes, you believe that. I believe something else. The guy next door believes something else. I’m well aware of this.
But to scare parents into believing that 52% of their kids will die from vaccinations … that’s just a new level of crazy.
she believes the scripture, you believe something else
 

Rosemaryx

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Yes, you believe that. I believe something else. The guy next door believes something else. I’m well aware of this.
But to scare parents into believing that 52% of their kids will die from vaccinations … that’s just a new level of crazy.
I believe what David wrote , inspired by the Holy Spirit...
I wrote it to your comment about these little ones that you believe are in hell...
David believed he would see his son again , you on the end believe the total opposite...
 

Eli1

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I believe what David wrote , inspired by the Holy Spirit...
I wrote it to your comment about these little ones that you believe are in hell...
David believed he would see his son again , you on the end believe the total opposite...
Oh okay, let’s show some contradictions because everyone picks a verse from the Bible and builds a church around it.

In Psalm 51:5, David wrote, “Surely I was sinful at birth, sinful from the time my mother conceived me.” David recognized that even at conception he was a sinner. The very sad fact that infants sometimes die demonstrates that even infants are impacted by Adam’s sin, since physical and spiritual death were the results of Adam’s original sin.
 

Rosemaryx

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Oh okay, let’s show some contradictions because everyone picks a verse from the Bible and builds a church around it.

In Psalm 51:5, David wrote, “Surely I was sinful at birth, sinful from the time my mother conceived me.” David recognized that even at conception he was a sinner. The very sad fact that infants sometimes die demonstrates that even infants are impacted by Adam’s sin, since physical and spiritual death were the results of Adam’s original sin.
Am not talking about that , we know all is conceived in sin , we are talking about you saying you feel sorry for those children because you believe they have died and gone to hell...
I showed you Scripture of David believing he will see his son again...
 

BeeThePeace

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Yes, you believe that. I believe something else. The guy next door believes something else. I’m well aware of this.
But to scare parents into believing that 52% of their kids will die from vaccinations … that’s just a new level of crazy.
By now I believe every reader of your postings are well aware of what you believe.

Now, if we could all move forward and discuss this topic civily I believe that would be a good thing for all concerned with Christian community and respect one for another.
 

Jesusfollower

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You and others (since you like to include your lying friends too) try to get people to think that they shouldn’t vaccinate their children because there’s a 5100% increase that they will die when in fact you should say that “There’s a .5% chance that they will die”.
These are people that we‘re talking about. Not rabbits.
Don‘t lie and scare parents with deceitful headlines !
Eli1

the vaccine is not a conventional vaccine, it is a new technology using mRNA, it is unproven and is in fact an experimental gene therapy. Children do not die of coronaviruses unless they are very sick to start with. There is no need to vaccinate healthy children. many top scientists risking their lives and medical or academic reputations have spoken out against the current gene therapy ""vaccines". Many were silenced many lost their positions but the statistics based on millions of people do not lie. This ""vaccine"" is indeed dangerous, is an unacceptable and a serious medical error.
I have read many posts from ZNP on the vaccines and i found him well informed and he is right. I will always backup anyone who says the truth.

Lastly, innocent little children do not go to hell that is preposterous.

Blessings

JF
 

Eli1

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Am not talking about that , we know all is conceived in sin , we are talking about you saying you feel sorry for those children because you believe they have died and gone to hell...
I showed you Scripture of David believing he will see his son again...
Ohhh okay.
This is good then and we’re on the same page.
‘Now moving on to the subject of salvation which is a wonderful topic and we’re all on the same page too.

Is salvation a notarized document or an ongoing thing?
By notarized I mean “Yesterday at 3:42PM eastern standard time, I was saved. This document was signed and notarized so now I’m all set”.

Then, once we establish that, where do unaware children fit into that?

By now I believe every reader of your postings are well aware of what you believe.

Now, if we could all move forward and discuss this topic civily I believe that would be a good thing for all concerned with Christian community and respect one for another.
Oh yeah I’ve seen some of your crazy posts too.
This is why Christians give God a bad name.

Eli1

the vaccine is not a conventional vaccine, it is a new technology using mRNA, it is unproven and is in fact an experimental gene therapy. Children do not die of coronaviruses unless they are very sick to start with. There is no need to vaccinate healthy children. many top scientists risking their lives and medical or academic reputations have spoken out against the current gene therapy ""vaccines". Many were silenced many lost their positions but the statistics based on millions of people do not lie. This ""vaccine"" is indeed dangerous, is an unacceptable and a serious medical error.
I have read many posts from ZNP on the vaccines and i found him well informed and he is right. I will always backup anyone who says the truth.

Lastly, innocent little children do not go to hell that is preposterous.

Blessings

JF
This is why Christians give God a bad name.
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