Children’s Risk of Death Increases by 5100% Following Covid-19 Vaccination Compared to Unvaccinated Children According to Official ONS Data

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Eli1

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Please! May we choose not to further indulge someone so callous?
It only pays more attention to their malicious disregard for the departed little ones. Please? I implore you all in our Lord's precious name, let us not encourage that person to continue on their path here in this discussion.
:cry: Please?
Please think about what you say in a public forum in real life and the internet.
Think about the consequences this would have on families and the stress and anxiety this would cause when they (falsely ) hear that 52% of their children will die because of vaccination.
Think about that next time.

Because if this was true, we would see massive death around us worldwide but we don’t.
So, think about it.
 

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Please think about what you say in a public forum in real life and the internet.
Think about the consequences this would have on families and the stress and anxiety this would cause when they (falsely ) hear that 52% of their children will die because of vaccination.
Think about that next time.

Because if this was true, we would see massive death around us worldwide but we don’t.
So, think about it.
Clearly you do not understand statistical analysis, so before you try and explain what you don't understand try and think about the consequences of falsely interpreting what is said.

If 1 kid in 10,000 typically dies before 18, then a 52x increase would be 52 out of 10,000. That is nowhere near 50% of kids. That is a huge, incredible and unprecedented increase, but still only accounts for 0.5% of kids or 1/100th of what you just said.
 

Eli1

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Clearly you do not understand statistical analysis, so before you try and explain what you don't understand try and think about the consequences of falsely interpreting what is said.

If 1 kid in 10,000 typically dies before 18, then a 52x increase would be 52 out of 10,000. That is nowhere near 50% of kids. That is a huge, incredible and unprecedented increase, but still only accounts for 0.5% of kids or 1/100th of what you just said.
Okay so this is very good and we may be getting somewhere.
We will then need to de-sensationalize headlines to truly represent what is being said.
‘Agree?
 

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Okay so this is very good and we may be getting somewhere.
We will then need to de-sensationalize headlines to truly represent what is being said.
‘Agree?
I think a headline should be factually correct. If the death rate increased 51x that is 5100% increase. If that is correct then I support it.
 

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I think a headline should be factually correct. If the death rate increased 51x that is 5100% increase. If that is correct then I support it.
Oh but no sir, try to be fair instead of pushing an agenda for whatever reason.

The headline should say “There’s a 0.5% chance that children might die from this vaccination”.

Which incidentally seems to align with what anyone else in the world would say in regards to a reaction to ANY medication such as even taking an advil.
1/100 might have a severe allergic reaction and die.

So HOW you say it, it matters.
 

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Oh but no sir, try to be fair instead of pushing an agenda for whatever reason.

The headline should say “There’s a 0.5% chance that children might die from this vaccination”.

Which incidentally seems to align with what anyone else in the world would say in regards to a reaction to ANY medication such as even taking an advil.
1/100 might have a severe allergic reaction and die.

So HOW you say it, it matters.
Yes, say it your way and your newspaper is out of business and the truth has no impact on anyone. Say it the other way and it goes viral, the world wakes up to the danger and soon action is taken to protect kids from the vaccine.
 

Eli1

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Yes, say it your way and your newspaper is out of business and the truth has no impact on anyone. Say it the other way and it goes viral, the world wakes up to the danger and soon action is taken to protect kids from the vaccine.
Okay so you don’t want to admit the truth and wanna push an agenda.
‘Got it. I like when things turn out like this because we all know where to stand.
 

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Please! May we choose not to further indulge someone so callous?
It only pays more attention to their malicious disregard for the departed little ones. Please? I implore you all in our Lord's precious name, let us not encourage that person to continue on their path here in this discussion.
:cry: Please?
You're clearly new to the site if you're even bothering to ask such a thing. This site is infamous for its raging debates, personal attacks and rigid, religious judgments. Take those away and more than half the traffick on this site would disappear.
 

ZNP

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Okay so you don’t want to admit the truth and wanna push an agenda.
‘Got it. I like when things turn out like this because we all know where to stand.
0.5% is not the truth. Find out what the real number is that that would be the truth.

Saying that a 51x increase or a 5100% is not the truth but putting the number which is 51x greater is the truth is a brazen lie.

5100% = 51x = whatever that number is. All three are the truth.

Yes, I agree with you, I can now see where you stand. You will slander, lie, and do whatever you can get away with to try and hold down the truth in unrighteousness.

One wonders why you are so invested in holding down the truth? But I am not interested enough to pursue a conversation with you. Once I know a person is a liar either they repent or else I have nothing to do with them anymore.
 

Eli1

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0.5% is not the truth. Find out what the real number is that that would be the truth.

Saying that a 51x increase or a 5100% is not the truth but putting the number which is 51x greater is the truth is a brazen lie.

5100% = 51x = whatever that number is. All three are the truth.

Yes, I agree with you, I can now see where you stand. You will slander, lie, and do whatever you can get away with to try and hold down the truth in unrighteousness.

One wonders why you are so invested in holding down the truth? But I am not interested enough to pursue a conversation with you. Once I know a person is a liar either they repent or else I have nothing to do with them anymore.
Same.
Once I know you’re a liar I won’t have anything to do with you unless you repent.
 

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April 30, 2022 https://www.lewrockwell.com/2022/04...ted-children-according-to-official-ons-data/#

The Office for National Statistics has revealed without realising it that children are up to 52 times more likely to die following Covid-19 vaccination than children who have not had the Covid-19 vaccine.


I'm not at all surprised. I was surprised to know parents who would say they'd have their child vaccinated against COVID-19 as soon as they were deemed old enough.

There seems to be a repetitive block each decade where something occurs to kill off huge numbers of the human population.

The Gateway Pundit
HUGE EXCLUSIVE: Dr. Li-Meng Yan Says China Released COVID-19 Intentionally – “THIS IS NOT AN ACCIDENT”

By Joe Hoft
Published April 30, 2022
Let's put this into a simple way to visualize this. I taught at a high school with 400 kids. I could have taught there for 25 years without a single kid dying from some health related illness. Since that school is in NYC with a vaccine mandate so that all kids are vaccinated then going forward you could have 2 kids dying every year from a health related illness.
 

ZNP

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Same.
Once I know you’re a liar I won’t have anything to do with you unless you repent.
I have reported you. Show me where I have lied.
 

Eli1

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I have reported you. Show me where I have lied.
I have also reported you.
You are a liar for twisting information.
Even advil or any medication has a low risk of side effects and death.
 

ZNP

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I have also reported you.
You are a liar for twisting information.
Even advil or any medication has a low risk of side effects and death.
I have not twisted any information. I did not write the article. I commented on it. I have not said that other medication does not have adverse affects, that is irrelevant to the issue.

The issue is very simple, 5100% = 51x

If, as the study reports, the number of children who died was 51x higher then it is not a lie to say so and accusing me of lying because I agree with that is the issue.
 

Eli1

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I have not twisted any information. I did not write the article. I commented on it. I have not said that other medication does not have adverse affects, that is irrelevant to the issue.

The issue is very simple, 5100% = 51x

If, as the study reports, the number of children who died was 51x higher then it is not a lie to say so and accusing me of lying because I agree with that is the issue.
Yes this issue is very simple.
‘The risk is low so don’t throw numbers like 5100% around to alarm people.
 
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Hold them guilty, Oh God; by their own devices let them fall! For the multitude of their transgressions, thrust them out. For they are rebellious against you.
 

ZNP

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Yes this issue is very simple.
‘The risk is low so don’t throw numbers like 5100% around to alarm people.
You may be an idiot or simply ignorant. That may be the case and so you should avoid topics that you are clearly clueless on.

If you think the title is "alarming" that is not the same thing as a lie. If you think that newspapers and journalists should use the least alarming titles in their stories then start a thread on that, but accusing someone of lying because they spoke the truth in a way that you feel is alarming is slanderous.

I saw the title, was it alarming, yes, did I misunderstand that 5100% increase meant that 50% of kids were going to die as you interpreted it? No. It was clear to me that kids rarely die from illness so 51x a small number can still be a small number (though 51x greater). You did misunderstand and that is on you, not on the writer, and your ignorance doesn't make the writer a liar.
 

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You may be an idiot or simply ignorant. That may be the case and so you should avoid topics that you are clearly clueless on.

If you think the title is "alarming" that is not the same thing as a lie. If you think that newspapers and journalists should use the least alarming titles in their stories then start a thread on that, but accusing someone of lying because they spoke the truth in a way that feel is alarming is slanderous.
‘You are clearly clueless because you don’t know how to communicate.
‘You want to make a mountain out of a mole. Because you want to magnify a small risk.
 

ZNP

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‘You are clearly clueless because you don’t know how to communicate.
‘You want to make a mountain out of a mole. Because you want to magnify a small risk.
A 51x increase in the death of kids is a mole hill? What a despicable thing to say.

This from a vaccine they are mandating when the risk from dying from Covid was truly infinitesimal to healthy kids.

Listening to you is horrifying. Are you really this stupid or are you a shill for Pfizer?
 

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A 51x increase in the death of kids is a mole hill? What a despicable thing to say.

This from a vaccine they are mandating when the risk from dying from Covid was truly infinitesimal to healthy kids.

Listening to you is horrifying. Are you really this stupid or are you a shill for Pfizer?
A 51x increase is a 0.5% risk.
‘Don’t twist and lie for whoever is paying you.