Did Adam and Eve eat an apple?
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Wrong. The Greek word for tree is in the Neuter form. In translating the KJV translators tended to default to "her" rather than "it" but that doesn't make the tree female. A majority of translations get it right and use "it".
You're thinking too much about the forbidden fruit, your focus is wrong. That forbidden fruit didn't magically change everything all of a sudden, what was changed all of a sudden was the relationship with God and the kingship over Earth. As soon as they ate it, Satan and his fallen angels got them.
Babylon is a metaphor for false religion. She isn't a real person nor drank any blood.
I understand the point you are making; however, your use of 'natural' is incorrect in the overall sense - that which is 'natural' is that which follows the natural order.
The "junk food" statement may be considered to be 'typical' or 'common' - but, it is not 'natural'. The "healthy food" statement depicts what is 'natural'.
You are confusing 'usual' with 'natural'.
What sin has caused is not 'natural'.
Death and decay are not 'natural'.
However, they are 'usual'.
I know you want to think of it that way because of modern science terminology; however, in the "bigger picture" [of truth], it simply is not so.
The natural order is that which builds, grows, sustains, perpetuates, etc. - 'life'.
Laziness, decay, and death defy the natural order.
Do you understand? Do you see the difference?
Yes! Thank you for that.
Here is the verse that goes with Mystery Babylon drinking the Blood of all who were slain...
Genesis 4:11
"And now art thou cursed from the earth, which hath opened her mouth to receive thy brother’s blood from thy hand;"
It is Earth that drinks the Blood. Therefore, Earth is Mystery Babylon. She is the 'Mother'. No, this is not 'New Age' teachings. This is the Bible teaching this.
Mystery Babylon gives birth... literally.
I do understand, sedentary lifestyle and junk food is not the natural way of life, but it's the usual way of life. The difference, though, is human agency. That's what Jesus often talked about, be a doer of the Word, not just a hearer.
You are speculating
Rev 22:2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her [its] fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.
You are still speculating…..and without even getting into an explanation of this verse, your speculation falls short with the word Her.
You have accentuated the word HER in your explanation in Revelation on your post #6
That word is gender neuter and singular and would better be translated its rather than her
It is translated almost 3300 x masculine compared to 242 x feminine in the NT
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Live4Him2
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Earth is definitely NOT "Mystery Babylon".
Btw, didn't you just recently say that Hagar/Jerusalem was "Babylon"?
This is why we must not move to quickly.
Do you know what the 'Lowest Parts of the Earth' is?
Thanks for exposing your unbiblical position so plainly.
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Live4Him2
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Yes, I do...but I can see that this conversation is headed in a demonically-inspired direction in that you're making some way off-base comments/allegations here.
Later...
And with that false accusation, I will end my posting in this thread.
Later to you too.
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Live4Him2
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It wasn't a false accusation.
You've got some off-the-wall beliefs which will never hold up to the scrutiny of rightly-divided scripture.
I don't say that to insult you, but simply because it's true.
No, that's a human imagination with no basis whatever. Disobedience caused the fall of man (Romans 5:19). Adam disobeyed God's instruction and the consequences were exactly as God said they would be.
Both spiritual death on that literal 24-hour day - and physical death in 1000 years.