Did Adam and Eve eat an apple?

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kenallen

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Was it the apple that Adam and Eve ate that caused the fall of man or something else?
 

GaryA

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Something else...

I believe that specific tree had to be something different than all of the other trees/fruits - that it was unique - and, that it did not exist outside of Eden.
 

kenallen

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You are right so let me ask what did happen in the garden?
 

GaryA

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What do you mean - apart from what is recorded in Genesis?
 
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It was not an Apple.

The Forbidden Fruit is actually specifically mentioned in the Book of Revelation. I will not post the verse just yet as it is extremely shocking.

To understand the Forbidden Fruit, one must understand that the two trees in the Garden of Eden represent two Mothers.
 
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As you folks know, the Bible is full of juxtaposition. Sometimes it helps to look at opposing themes to get a better understanding.

Thus, in order to discover what the Forbidden Fruit is, we can look at its opposite, the Fruit of the Tree of Life...

Revelation 22:2
"In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations."


We see that the Tree of Life is a 'Her'. She has Fruit. She bares a different Fruit each month.

Does this sound familiar to anyone? A woman bearing a new Fruit on a monthly cycle?

What do you suppose that Fruit is? Remember, said Fruit is produced on a monthly period.
 

Magenta

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They ate the fruit of their self-willed disobedience.
 

Artios1

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I am thinking more of a metaphorical than an actual fruit...but I don't know and
The Bible doesn't say .....so we don't know.
 

studentoftheword

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Did Adam and Eve eat an apple?

The Scripture does not say they ate an apple ------so it was a forbidden fruit unnamed -------
 

Mem

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I was just sort of brainstorming out the answer... because... well, faith seems to be, idk, a paradoxically difficult while simple, intangible yet tangible reality for our grasping...

A seed is planted which grows into a fruit bearing tree, and Satan planted the seed of a lie in the garden. The tree of the knowledge of good and evil is one of discernment, to judge that lie, wrongly, as truth. This caused the employment of a flaming sword to keep the way of the tree of life, Jesus is the Truth, the Seed planted from the foundation of the world...

This thought sort of sprouted from a consideration of "who will be squashed like a grape?" and, "is it , then, a raisin, which has been sundried spared this fate?"
 

Mem

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I was just sort of brainstorming out the answer... because... well, faith seems to be, idk, a paradoxically difficult while simple, intangible yet tangible reality for our grasping...

A seed is planted which grows into a fruit bearing tree, and Satan planted the seed of a lie in the garden. The tree of the knowledge of good and evil is one of discernment, to judge that lie, wrongly, as truth. This caused the employment of a flaming sword to keep the way of the tree of life, Jesus is the Truth, the Seed planted from the foundation of the world...

This thought sort of sprouted from a consideration of "who will be squashed like a grape?" and, "is it , then, a raisin, which has been sundried spared this fate?"
Maybe I should start a thread, "What is it, that's in the juice?"
 
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Was it the apple that Adam and Eve ate that caused the fall of man or something else?
Not necessarily an "apple". Apple in Latin is "malum", very similar to "malice", so this forbidden fruit is assumed to be an apple.
 

Magenta

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As Christians, we are exhorted to bear fruit.

We know we are not trees, but only {metaphorical} branches, offshoots of the true vine, Jesus Christ.
I believe He was the {metaphorical} tree of Life placed in the garden of Eden; He holds the keys to
life and death; all life is in Him; He is author and giver of life etc, and eternal life is promised to those
who surrender to and abide in Him (John 15:4-5). All life was created by and for Him, and is sustained by Him.


The fruit we are to bear has different aspects to it. One is character building: the fruit of the Spirit
is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control.
Against such things there is no law.


Peter adds to this: make every effort to add to your faith excellence, to excellence, knowledge;
to knowledge, self-control; to self-control, perseverance; to perseverance, godliness; to godliness,
brotherly affection; to brotherly affection, unselfish love. For if these things are really yours and
are continually increasing, they will keep you from becoming ineffective and unproductive in
your pursuit of knowing our Lord Jesus Christ more intimately.


So our life surrendered to God, and our works through faith are fruit, and so are people who come to Christ through us (Rom 1:3; Phil 4:17), and there is also the fruit of our lips as we praise God and witness to others (Hebrews 13:15).

These are good fruits, partaken of when aligned with the will of God.

Evil fruits would be the result of disobeying God, defying God, following self will in opposition to God's will, severing ourselves from fellowship with Him, etc. That is the fruit Adam and Eve bore and ate (lived). They followed the desires of the flesh and the desires of the eyes and pride of life, in turning away from God after being in fellowship with Him. It is what we all do before being regenerated by the Holy Spirit of God.

I think it will be wonderful to be restored to the garden in the new earth. Come LORD Jesus.
 

PennEd

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No. This is incorrect.

The Forbidden Fruit is specifically mentioned in the Bible for all to see... in all of it spectacular detail.
Obviously your speculative point is going to be very controversial. That appears why you fear just coming out and saying it.
 
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We know we are not trees, but only {metaphorical} branches, offshoots of the true vine, Jesus Christ.
I believe He was the {metaphorical} tree of Life placed in the garden of Eden.
Jesus is not the Tree of Life. Not even in a metaphorical sense.

The Tree of Life is always Feminine. Always.

Jesus is on the Throne. The Waters that proceed from the Throne fertilize Her Fruit...

Revelation 22:1
"And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb."


New Jerusalem is Sarah, the Mother of us all...

Galatians 4:26
"But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all."


New Jerusalem is a Woman. Inside of Her are Fruit that are bared on a monthly period.
 

Mem

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It was not an Apple.

The Forbidden Fruit is actually specifically mentioned in the Book of Revelation. I will not post the verse just yet as it is extremely shocking.

To understand the Forbidden Fruit, one must understand that the two trees in the Garden of Eden represent two Mothers.
As you folks know, the Bible is full of juxtaposition. Sometimes it helps to look at opposing themes to get a better understanding.

Thus, in order to discover what the Forbidden Fruit is, we can look at its opposite, the Fruit of the Tree of Life...

Revelation 22:2
"In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations."


We see that the Tree of Life is a 'Her'. She has Fruit. She bares a different Fruit each month.

Does this sound familiar to anyone? A woman bearing a new Fruit on a monthly cycle?

What do you suppose that Fruit is? Remember, said Fruit is produced on a monthly period.
No. This is incorrect.

The Forbidden Fruit is specifically mentioned in the Bible for all to see... in all of it spectacular detail.
Are you, perhaps, dangling it?
 
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Obviously your speculative point is going to be very controversial. That appears why you fear just coming out and saying it.
Yes.

Being new here I do not wish to make waves. If folks can handle an adult discussion, I am willing to chat. If not, so be it. I will stay silent.
 

Magenta

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Jesus is not the Tree of Life. Not even in a metaphorical sense.
He is the bread of life. I see nothing wrong with attributing all life to Him, or saying He is the source of life.

Bread of Life. Living Water. Light of the World. Good Shepherd. The True Vine. The Lamb.


Revelation 1:18
:)
 

PennEd

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Yes.

Being new here I do not wish to make waves. If folks can handle an adult discussion, I am willing to chat. If not, so be it. I will stay silent.
This forbidden fruit you are hesitant to talk about wouldn’t have anything to do with Eve having sex with the serpent would it?