CAN YOU WALK AWAY FROM POLITICS?

[Oblio]

I build up in the Faith, not of matters in this World.

You stated in your reply, to me: QUOTE: "Two days before the election, the Lord clearly told me that it had been decided in heaven that Trump would be president for another term. I was shook when He didn't get in."

That is quite an unbelievable statement. I don't know who was talking to you - However it was must definitely not the Lord. I will let the Scriptures answer this one:

Deu 18:20 But the prophet, that shall speak a word presumptuously in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, that same prophet shall die.
Deu 18:22 when a prophet speaks in the name of Jehovah, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which Jehovah hath not spoken: the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously, thou shalt not be afraid of him.

The only way, in this age, you will hear the Lord speak to you, is if you read the Scriptures aloud.

I hope you give serious thought to these things.

I didn't say that He said it would come about. I said that it was His will. However, "Your kingdom come, Your will be done" shows me that we needed to pray it in. We are in a spiritual war. Perhaps you do not know about such things.
Millions prayed in 2016. Trump got in. Due to the victory, millions reclined during the 2018 midterms, and by 2020, enough had been swayed by complacency, the world's influence through TV, the MSM, Netflix, etc., that the lack of intercession, and the influence of those like Bev Moore, led to what we have today.
The appropriate response to me would have been to query me on exactly what I meant, but I know it's easier to label someone a false prophet.

 

[posthuman]

i ain't gonna be very popular in a thread like this

LOL

 

[posthuman]

It was probably the pepperoni.

but i like pepperoni

it isn't pizza if it doesn't have pepperoni

 

[Oblio]

clearly either God is wrong or your 'vision' was

no man can undo the will of heaven.

guess which one i think was false, your vision or God Himself?


all the same i love you, my dude. don't get mad

Don't worry, I'm not the one who is wrong here. It was not heaven's will that Eve ate the fruit now, was it?

 

[Oblio]

What the Lord said to me was conditional. We had to do our part. He wasn't going to do it for us. We didn't do our part. We failed.

 

[posthuman]

I didn't say that He said it would come about. I said that it was His will. However, "Your kingdom come, Your will be done" shows me that we needed to pray it in. We are in a spiritual war. Perhaps you do not know about such things.
Millions prayed in 2016. Trump got in. Due to the victory, millions reclined during the 2018 midterms, and by 2020, enough had been swayed by complacency, the world's influence through TV, the MSM, Netflix, etc., that the lack of intercession, and the influence of those like Bev Moore, led to what we have today.
The appropriate response to me would have been to query me on exactly what I meant, but I know it's easier to label someone a false prophet.

you're saying people run the world, not God.

that God did not do His will because 'not enough people were sold out to R'

that your literal neighbor, who may incline to D, overcame God.

 

[posthuman]

Don't worry, I'm not the one who is wrong here. It was not heaven's will that Eve ate the fruit now, was it?

He said "in the day you eat of it" to Adam -- not "if you happen to eat of it"

think about it.
Christ is the Lamb slain before the foundation of the world.

what does Romans say? "that He may be just and the Justifier" ((3:26))

i do not believe omnipotent omniscient God is ever stymied.
i think we fail to understand Him, and i think that, too, is according to His purpose -- to His glory, not ours


bro i know that at least once you have seen extremely clearly that everything is proceeding as planned ♥

 

[SteveEpperson]

I think a good role model to follow is Mike Pence. He's a Godly man who happens to make politics his business.

 

[Oblio]

Whatever.

 

[Oblio]

Enough of the noisy throng for me for one day. Shalom!

 

[posthuman]

bro i know that at least once you have seen extremely clearly that everything is proceeding as planned ♥

@Oblio in that moment you knew God is God

this is truth, to me
i was there too; i saw it

 

[posthuman]

Don't worry, I'm not the one who is wrong here. It was not heaven's will that Eve ate the fruit now, was it?

why did He put that tree in the garden, right in their reach?
why didn't He obliterate Satan before Satan could do any harm?
why did He create us with will and ability to reject Him?
why is He bothering to let all this play out?

is God stupid?

lol . . ?



((goes deep))

 

[Oblio]

why did He put that tree in the garden, right in their reach?
why didn't He obliterate Satan before Satan could do any harm?
why did He create us with will and ability to reject Him?
why is He bothering to let all this play out?

is God stupid?

lol . . ?



((goes deep))

My point is that if we had prayed like we did in 2016, I believe that Trump would've gotten back in and we wouldn't be in the state we are. We are the salt of the earth. Trump got in the first time, in large part, because of the church. He was supposed to get in the second time but he didn't.
From what I've seen, I can only conclude that it was due to the church not doing what it did the first time.
BTW...I'm a libertarian.

 

[Oblio]

Too much love of comfort...too little repentance...in my opinion.

 

[posthuman]

My point is that if we had prayed like we did in 2016, I believe that Trump would've gotten back in and we wouldn't be in the state we are. We are the salt of the earth. Trump got in the first time, in large part, because of the church. He was supposed to get in the second time but he didn't.
From what I've seen, I can only conclude that it was due to the church not doing what it did the first time.
BTW...I'm a libertarian.

because of the visible church -- the Laodicean church that Christ knocks on the door of, indicating He is outside of - who all voted for that vain liar because rich & popular radio 'preachers' told them to. they were bought, and they bought most of the Southland, who are by and large completely ignorant of what the Bible says but feel pretty sure they will go to heaven because they go to church every week and, ever since the 70's, vote R religiously.

T was a democrat until he decided he could seize power over the country. he found an easy-way-in: pretend to be christian ((of course the idiot sheep will believe you if you have slick advertising)), and take over the weak R party. it worked. he's extremely shrewd, in a very worldly way.

if you were libertarian you should have been praying for someone like Jo Jorgensen or at least Bernie Sanders.

but God does His will. God's arm is not shortened.
we got, as a nation, exactly what we deserved: a transparently fake 'christian' who bought all of us with lies in order to increase his own power, who continues selling 'the big lie' to a bunch of ignorant people more-than-willing to be deceived.

 

[DavidTree]

this sounds a lot more like D and a lot less like R tho.
R oppresses the poor and the stranger and gives gifts to the rich.
but D, while pleading the cause of the needy and the fatherless and poor, also gives freedom & approval to people to sin as they see fit.

so where do we really stand?
with the scripture or with one of two equally evil worldly powers?
do we sell ourselves out to become slaves to one evil because we are convinced the other evil is 'worse???'
the least sin makes us guilty of breaking the whole law!

Hi Brother,
i have a hunch (just a hunch, as i am now watching the Hockey game) that there is a scriptural precedent for choosing the 'lesser of the two evils'.
i will search the scriptures to see if my 'Bible munch-hunch' is there, as you now me by now that i will not pull it out of thin air.

Now, i am not a R or a D as i detest politics as well. So i never really focused on the political/religious battles in the OT.
i just want to SEE the SON who was the WORD in the Beginning, who walked in the Garden and spoke with Moses.

 

[DavidTree]

because of the visible church -- the Laodicean church that Christ knocks on the door of, indicating He is outside of - who all voted for that vain liar because rich & popular radio 'preachers' told them to.

if you were libertarian you should have been praying for someone like Jo Jorgensen or at least Bernie Sanders.

but God does His will. God's arm is not shortened.
we got, as a nation, exactly what we deserved: a transparently fake 'christian' who bought all of us with lies in order to increase his own power, who continues selling 'the big lie' to a bunch of ignorant people more-than-willing to be deceived.

Trump(or Jared Kushner) may well be the 'savior' that the world/Israel has been looking for.

Maybe, just maybe, it was a huge Blessing that Trump was not re-elected (Trump did, in fact, win the election).

Is God having Mercy and granting more time??? We will soon find out.

 

[DavidTree]

I thought that it was about pizza toppings.

Mine would be meatballs, red onions, broccoli, garlic, oregano, crush red pepper, green peppers, mushrooms.

 

[Oblio]

Early in Trump's term, I was watching a video of Trump walking across a room in the White House.
The Lord said to me, "You are watching Trump finding God."
I'm more concerned about the lunatics that are rushing headlong into a war with Russia.

 

[posthuman]

Too much love of comfort...too little repentance...in my opinion.

American christianity is very comfortable thinking anyone R is God's will and anyone D is Satanic.

that's an extremely attractive doorway for liars to gain political power.