Are we in the end times ?
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Israel , The Jews, the earthly children of Abraham. Which ever label folks prefer, was no longer tender at the time of Christ. The Church, the body of Christ , the Christians were.
I was asking you about "these things". The completion of "these things" was the hard condition for "this generation" to subsist, no? So unless we understand what "these things", specifically the fig tree, we ain't gonna understand who are "this generation".
Why do you add 'the antichrist' What is the Biblical meaning of antichrist .. the answer is in Johns letters
That Wicked, Son of Perdition. Abomination of Desolation. Several names, same dude.
I'm just gonna say this, man, there's one verse in Revelation which says that the Fig Tree is dropping its fruit, and those 144,000 will be the First Fruit as they're called. There was no fruit on the Fig Tree when Jesus passed by, but there will be full of fruits at the end times.
Again i ask what is the Biblical definition of antichrist. Who is man to change the Word of God to suit his understanding?
The problem is when people try to interpret the parable first instead of taking the clear statement first and interpreting the parable through it.
It's a principle of hermeneutics to interpret the unclear by what is clear, rather than the other way around.
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To the contrary, in the state of Israel is to be found the house of Judah, which consists of the tribe of Judah, the tribe of Benjamin, and much of the tribe of Levi. Who together have become known as the Jews. The Lord will yet bring the houses of Israel and Judah together, in a new covenant, and make them one.
Ezekiel 37: 15-23, Jeremiah 31:31-34
I think there will be two, one false messiah and one false Elijah, aka the Sea Beast and the Earth Beast. From what I know, Jews have been expecting a reincarnation of Elijah. You remember at the beginning of the gospel of John, Pharisees sent some men to ask about the identity of John the Baptist, and they asked if he was Elijah. Till this day there's still a tradition in many Jewish families to leave an empty chair at the dinner table for Elijah. But behold, when this fella comes, he's gonna be a reincarnation of Judas, not Elijah, and he'll sell all of us out to the false messiah. That's the real Man of Sin/the Lawless One in 2 Thess. 2:3.
That principle doesn't apply on references. These references direct you to other places in the bible, and you go there. In this case it's right there, the three previous verses. Both the fig tree parable and that statement are unclear to a certain degree, but the fig tree parable is CLEARER than that statement - if you've learned the symbolism of the fig tree. You ignore that context, parsing a reference like "these things" only makes what's clear UNclear.
I couldn't disagree more. Parables are inherently unclear; Jesus had to explain them to the disciples. The Olivet discourse was plain speech, to be taken directly rather than parsed through some other lens. If you start with the parable, you're violating the principle.
You've got it completely upside down. Like it or not, half of the entire Olivet Discourse in Matthew was parables. Actually more than half, from the Fig Tree parable in 24:32 to the end of chapter 25 are all parables and analogies. What you called "plain speech" was unclear, that's why Jesus used one not but several parables to explain that "plain speech". The purpose was to use what they were familiar with to teach what they were NOT familiar with, not the other way around.
Well, Jesus did warn us a lot about false Elijahs. False Moseses' is even scarier.
When he said ....Dear children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that the antichrist is coming ... it is because they had heard the teaching of that Wicked that would be revealed, the son of perdition, the abomination of desolation spoken of by Daniel the Prophet, which had been called the Antichrist by that time and was a common teaching among them.
Ancient references to the antichrist in church literature can be discovered with a Google search to learn more about the common teaching John was referring to when he said "you have heard..."
When he said ....Dear children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that the antichrist is coming ... it is because they had heard the teaching of that Wicked that would be revealed, the son of perdition, the abomination of desolation spoken of by Daniel the Prophet, which had been called the Antichrist by that time and was a common teaching among them.
Ancient references to the antichrist in church literature can be discovered with a Google search to learn more about the common teaching John was referring to when he said "you have heard..."
So before you start talking about the spiritual truth that John explains about the many antichrists, there is still a fact that they had been taught about the prophesied Anitchrist that was coming as part of the teachings of Jesus when he told them about the abomination of the desolation from Daniel the Prophet.
That was the Antichrist that they knew was prophesied to come and were expecting this as part of the prophesies that would occur before the appearance of the Son of Man in the clouds... and then he teaches them that ..In addition to that, they should also be aware that the "spirit that is behind this prophesied Antichrist was active even now and how to recognize it, but that in no way was intended to remove the teaching they had heard that the Antichrist was coming.