Is Paul or Jesus your main guide?
- Thread starter Blik
- Start date
-
Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.
If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!
To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
Hebrews 9
11 But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building;
12 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.
13 For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh:
14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?
11 But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building;
12 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.
13 For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh:
14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?
-
1
- Show all
Deuteronomy 19:15 One witness shall not rise up against a man for any iniquity, or for any sin, in any sin that he sinneth: at the mouth of two witnesses, or at the mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be established.
You have to do better than that, I presented you with: Samuel, Hosea, Jesus, Isaiah, Jeremiah, and Solomon.
You have to do better than that, I presented you with: Samuel, Hosea, Jesus, Isaiah, Jeremiah, and Solomon.
The first chapter of Isaiah discusses this. The Jews were using the sacrificial system that was given to them for forgiveness of their sins the same way the pagans were making sacrifices to idols----to feed God, not as God asked them to sacrifice
In the old testament there was no forgiveness of sin without blood (Lev. 1711). Surely!! you can't believe that a God who loves the man he created would say that for 4,000 years there was no forgiveness of sin?
In the old testament there was no forgiveness of sin without blood (Lev. 1711). Surely!! you can't believe that a God who loves the man he created would say that for 4,000 years there was no forgiveness of sin?
His Blood is Spirit and it is Life:
John 6:56 He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.
63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
If you drink His Doctrine, His Word and His Truth, you will confess and forsake, He will forgive and cleanse you from all unrighteousness.
Not by carnal blood, but by Spirit and Life.
Yes, there was the same forgiveness as today, because the LORD does not change: Repentance and ammendment:
Ezekiel 18:21 But if the wicked will turn from all his sins that he hath committed, and keep all my statutes, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he shall not die.
27 Again, when the wicked man turneth away from his wickedness that he hath committed, and doeth that which is lawful and right, he shall save his soul alive.
Ezekiel 33:14 Again, when I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; if he turn from his sin, and do that which is lawful and right;
15 If the wicked restore the pledge, give again that he had robbed, walk in the statutes of life, without committing iniquity; he shall surely live, he shall not die.
19 But if the wicked turn from his wickedness, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall live thereby.
John 6:56 He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.
63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
If you drink His Doctrine, His Word and His Truth, you will confess and forsake, He will forgive and cleanse you from all unrighteousness.
Not by carnal blood, but by Spirit and Life.
Yes, there was the same forgiveness as today, because the LORD does not change: Repentance and ammendment:
Ezekiel 18:21 But if the wicked will turn from all his sins that he hath committed, and keep all my statutes, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he shall not die.
27 Again, when the wicked man turneth away from his wickedness that he hath committed, and doeth that which is lawful and right, he shall save his soul alive.
Ezekiel 33:14 Again, when I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; if he turn from his sin, and do that which is lawful and right;
15 If the wicked restore the pledge, give again that he had robbed, walk in the statutes of life, without committing iniquity; he shall surely live, he shall not die.
19 But if the wicked turn from his wickedness, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall live thereby.
Agree
The whole of His Word is Truth. You see huge differences i dont. Just what are some of the huge differences of truth you see in the Word?
The gospels are Christ telling us how to live for Him and the letters tells us about Christ.
We are to be disciples of Christ, and that means a big change in our outlook and living. Peter explained it when he said in Matt. 19:27 Peter answered him, “We have left everything to follow you!
Is there not doctrine in the Gospels and the Gospel in Letters? I would guess you find Christ many places in the OT . It is one book one Bible one Word...
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.
Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
Joh 1:4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
Seems we just see things a bit differently ..
The whole of His Word is Truth. You see huge differences i dont. Just what are some of the huge differences of truth you see in the Word?
The gospels are Christ telling us how to live for Him and the letters tells us about Christ.
We are to be disciples of Christ, and that means a big change in our outlook and living. Peter explained it when he said in Matt. 19:27 Peter answered him, “We have left everything to follow you!
Is there not doctrine in the Gospels and the Gospel in Letters? I would guess you find Christ many places in the OT . It is one book one Bible one Word...
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh 1:2 The same was in the beginning with God.
Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
Joh 1:4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
Seems we just see things a bit differently ..
-
1
- Show all
Amen the gospel
“It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.”
John 6:63
“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”
John 5:24 KJV
the witness of the epistles coming from This understanding first
“There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.”
Romans 8:1-2 KJV
Paul, Peter , John and the rest of the apostles are always helping us better understand the doctrine Jesus spoke forth .some of its kind of hard to grasp being parabolic in nature . the doctrine is all in the gospel some of its kind of hard to understand though and the epistles are helping us further understand what he has established
“Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me. If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.”
John 7:16-17 KJV
“Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.”
2 John 1:9 KJV
“It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.”
John 6:63
“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”
John 5:24 KJV
the witness of the epistles coming from This understanding first
“There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.”
Romans 8:1-2 KJV
Paul, Peter , John and the rest of the apostles are always helping us better understand the doctrine Jesus spoke forth .some of its kind of hard to grasp being parabolic in nature . the doctrine is all in the gospel some of its kind of hard to understand though and the epistles are helping us further understand what he has established
“Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me. If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.”
John 7:16-17 KJV
“Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.”
2 John 1:9 KJV