DOES THE HOLY SPIRIT INSTRUCT US TO BE CLOTHED IN PUBLIC?

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Sudakar said:
Several times I quoted genesis 3:11. But you pretend I haven't quoted. If they feared staying unclothed displeases God & flee from His presence after choosing the forbidden knowledge of good and evil, it was the forbidden knowledge of good and evil thst condemned them of having displeased God.

Secondly, why you evade to quote the post # & answer this question? If you are justified by faith in Christ's sacrifice why do you need the forbidden knowledge of good and evil? Dodging?
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Genesis 3 does not say the forbidden knowledge of good and evil accused them of anything.

You are making that up.

Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they realized they were naked;
so they sewed fig leaves together and made coverings for themselves.
 
I'm assuming you have accepted my answer since you didn't respond and are now changing courses.

Sudakar said:
are you delivered from the God forbidden knowledge of good and evil which led humans to become sinful, through faith in Christ's sacrifice?
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In what sense do you mean by "delivered"?

By "delivered", do you mean:

Delivered from its effect?
Delivered from its temporary consequence?
Delivered from its eternal consequence?
Etc.?

These entail different answers, so I need to know exactly what you mean so I can answer.
 
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SomeDisciple said:
That doesn't matter if it's inherited patrillinially. For example, the Y-chromosome is only inherited through the father, and mitochondrial DNA is only inherited through the mother. It's not about being a descendant- it's about patrilinnial inheritance. For example if Joseph was Jesus' real dad, Jesus could not be king or messiah, because Joseph's line was part of Jaconiah's line which was cursed from being king.

Right, the pharisees would not admit that they were blind (sinners) and needed to be healed.

He was saying they needed to become like children with respect to their faith. Children like to learn new things, but the pharisees thought they knew it all already. He wasn't saying the children were sinless.
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Being aware of sin validates the sin. The reason Jesus spoke to the crowds in parables was a bit like a mercy. To some extent it's better to not make someone aware of their sin if they'll just reject the gospel after having received the truth; there comes greater condemnation with that. See Matthew 13:13-17, John 9:41, and more.

The Bible preaches this message repeatedly:

How do you suppose it is possible to cause a "little one that believes in Christ" to stumble(be offended)? Could it be by making them aware of their sin?
Mark 9:42
42And whosoever shall offend one of these little ones that believe in me, it is better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he were cast into the sea.

James 4:17
17Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.

Having said all of that, there really isn't any Biblical or logical reason why an infant would be aware of their sin, let alone the vocabulary used to define sin. Where do you see, in contrast to awareness of sin, that babies have sin?
 
Does the Holy Spirit instruct us to be clothed in public?
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The Bible uses clothing as figurative language repeatedly, but literal clothing is just something people wear over their body.

Depending on the climate, wearing too much or too little clothing can lead to death.

In the tropics if you wear a winter coat you'll overheat and if you wear a tank top, flip flops, and short shorts in Antarctica you'll probably freeze to death. Since the Holy Spirit doesn't want us to succumb to the elements, I see it more likely that the Holy Spirit leads us to use our good senses to clothe ourselves appropriately for the weather and climate.

As far as showing too much skin, unfortunately we can't account for all of the weak people. I think we should bear with them up until a point while gently encouraging them to grow thicker skin and grow up rather than allow them to control people vicariously through their easily-offended sensibilities.

"I'm offended, now you must be a good Christian and change for me because the Bible says so." is often used as a control tool.
 
Sudakar said:
If the Spirit or scripture instruct us to be clothed in public why didn't the Spirit or scripture instruct Adam and Eve to be clothed in public in God's most holy presence?
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There was NO public! Just God. Is the world going nuts? God sees all humanity without their clothes. He also looks inside and sees what is in hearts.
 
Nehemiah6 said:
There was NO public! Just God. Is the world going nuts? God sees all humanity without their clothes. He also looks inside and sees what is in hearts.
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Don't you realise if Adam Eve hadn't chosen the forbidden knowledge of good & evil, churches would be filled with unclothed people in public?
 
Magenta said:
It was in one of the other threads we were in last night; possibly both.

Why do you not answer my questions?
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Which thread post #? Are you scared to answer here? If you are justified by faith in Christ's sacrifice why do you need the God forbidden knowledge of good & evil?
 
Diakonos said:
I'm assuming you have accepted my answer since you didn't respond and are now changing courses.




In what sense do you mean by "delivered"?

By "delivered", do you mean:

Delivered from its effect?
Delivered from its temporary consequence?
Delivered from its eternal consequence?
Etc.?

These entail different answers, so I need to know exactly what you mean so I can answer.
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Your answers fail to address this question: If you are justified by faith in Christ's sacrifice why do you need the forbidden knowledge of good & evil?
 
Magenta said:
See post #67.
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Instead of answering you quoted verses?
Galatians 3:23But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.

24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.

25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.

So being justified by faith in Christ's sacrifice, do you say you don't need the forbidden knowledge of good & evil?
 
Magenta said:
Genesis 3 does not say the forbidden knowledge of good and evil accused them of anything.

You are making that up.

Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they realized they were naked;
so they sewed fig leaves together and made coverings for themselves.
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So what caused fear about staying unclothed in God's most holy presence if not the forbidden knowledge of good & evil?
 
Magenta said:
You have yet to give the verse that says that, and I know why!

No such verse exists.

Your second question I already responded to. And you responded
to my response. So why are you now pretending otherwise?
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I asked you what caused fear in Adam and Eve about staying unclothed in God's most holy presence if the forbidden knowledge of good & evil did not produce that fear?
 
Sudakar said:
Your answers fail to address this question: If you are justified by faith in Christ's sacrifice why do you need the forbidden knowledge of good & evil?
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I can only answer the questions you ask me. Since you didn't ask this specific question, I couldn't answer it.
But I have answered all the questions you have asked me.

Answer: I don't need it.
 
Diakonos said:
I can only answer the questions you ask me. Since you didn't ask this specific question, I couldn't answer it.
But I have answered all the questions you have asked me.

Answer: I don't need it.
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So do you believe Christ delivered you from the forbidden knowledge of good & evil by His perfect sacrifice on the cross as per Romans7:4,6?
 
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