My veiw on evil.
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I think it's about the loss of innocence. Before the knew the difference between good & evil they were blameless and not accountable but the disobedience in the garden was sort of a trap or catch 22 if you will that brought judgement upon them. However Jesus is the gift that pardoned us and we can rest our faith upon him!
In fact it accentuates our needs and reliance upon him. What happened in the garden was no accident. The Father knew all along what would happen and gave us an escape route from hell in Jesus.
In fact it accentuates our needs and reliance upon him. What happened in the garden was no accident. The Father knew all along what would happen and gave us an escape route from hell in Jesus.
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If there was no special component in that fruit why did God ask "And he said, Who told thee that thou wast naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat? Genesis 3:11.
Didn't the forbidden knowledge of good & evil tell them it was evil to be unclothed in God's most holy presence?
Didn't the forbidden knowledge of good & evil tell them it was evil to be unclothed in God's most holy presence?
Genesis 3:11: "And he said, Who told thee that thou wast naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat?"
Didn't the forbidden knowledge of good & evil tell them they committed the sin of being unclothed in God's most holy presence?
Was God fascinated with the knowledge of good & evil?
Didn't the forbidden knowledge of good & evil tell them they committed the sin of being unclothed in God's most holy presence?
Was God fascinated with the knowledge of good & evil?
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I admit that I'm no scholar. That said, I just don't understand your line of thinking . . . I've never heard this phrasing or terminology before, and I've been a part of the church while in my mother's womb . . . that's nearly 55 years. "Knowledge of Good and Evil" does tell anyone anything. First, that's the name of an unholy tree in the Garden of Eden. 2nd, it is a descriptive term of a particular form, or type of knowledge. What it isn't, however, is some form of entity. Jesus Redeems of us from the Curse of the Lord . . . not knowledge. That knowledge stays with us, thus we must overcome it by reflecting the Glory of Christ more and more each day. For example, am I to somehow be redeemed of my awareness of the strip clubs that I used to frequent prior to Transformation? Am I supposed to forget the plethora of women that I was sexually active with prior to my Transformation? And what about murder? Did Paul somehow forget, or be redeemed of the knowledge of remembering the sins that caused him to say that he was the "worst of sinners?"
Please forgive me for my words . . . I'm not trying to be mean or cruel. Just expressing my non-scholarly thoughts.
Please forgive me for my words . . . I'm not trying to be mean or cruel. Just expressing my non-scholarly thoughts.
because they were already made in his image and called “very good “and had no inclination to do evil . Until Satan came and beguiled them with deception. They became sinners who have both good and evil in them and so did their children.
that’s why we need to believe the gospel, The gospel is not the “tree of the knowledge of good and evil” , it’s “the tree of life “ that repairs the conflict good and evil caused in our hearts.
“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”
John 5:24 KJV
we want to simply do that. Jesus isn’t saying go hear the law of Moses , he’s talking about the gospel he preached His word.
to pretend it doesn’t matter what we do good or evil or pretend we shouldn’t learn the difference between good and evil isn’t at all ever a thing in scripture. And will surely lead one astray
that’s why we need to believe the gospel, The gospel is not the “tree of the knowledge of good and evil” , it’s “the tree of life “ that repairs the conflict good and evil caused in our hearts.
“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”
John 5:24 KJV
we want to simply do that. Jesus isn’t saying go hear the law of Moses , he’s talking about the gospel he preached His word.
to pretend it doesn’t matter what we do good or evil or pretend we shouldn’t learn the difference between good and evil isn’t at all ever a thing in scripture. And will surely lead one astray
“And the Lord God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed.
And out of the ground made the Lord God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.”
Genesis 2:8-9
Old Testament law ( knowledge of good and evil )
“But the word is very nigh unto thee, in thy mouth, and in thy heart, that thou mayest do it. See, I have set before thee this day life and good, and death and evil;”
Deuteronomy 30:14-15 KJV
Christs word in the gospel ( tree of life )
“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”
John 5:24 KJV
There are two testaments in the Bible one came to corrupted man knowing both good and evil , the other comes to purify those corrupted minds and hearts with the knowledge of God and give life to those who hear and believe.
it’s why Jesus is the one to believe
“And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.”
1 John 5:20 KJV
And out of the ground made the Lord God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.”
Genesis 2:8-9
Old Testament law ( knowledge of good and evil )
“But the word is very nigh unto thee, in thy mouth, and in thy heart, that thou mayest do it. See, I have set before thee this day life and good, and death and evil;”
Deuteronomy 30:14-15 KJV
Christs word in the gospel ( tree of life )
“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”
John 5:24 KJV
There are two testaments in the Bible one came to corrupted man knowing both good and evil , the other comes to purify those corrupted minds and hearts with the knowledge of God and give life to those who hear and believe.
it’s why Jesus is the one to believe
“And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.”
1 John 5:20 KJV
