My veiw on evil.
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I think it's about the loss of innocence. Before the knew the difference between good & evil they were blameless and not accountable but the disobedience in the garden was sort of a trap or catch 22 if you will that brought judgement upon them. However Jesus is the gift that pardoned us and we can rest our faith upon him!
In fact it accentuates our needs and reliance upon him. What happened in the garden was no accident. The Father knew all along what would happen and gave us an escape route from hell in Jesus.
If there was no special component in that fruit why did God ask "And he said, Who told thee that thou wast naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat? Genesis 3:11.
Didn't the forbidden knowledge of good & evil tell them it was evil to be unclothed in God's most holy presence?
Didn't by His sacrifice Jesus deliver us from the knowledge of good & evil which accuses us?
Genesis 3:11: "And he said, Who told thee that thou wast naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat?"
Didn't the forbidden knowledge of good & evil tell them they committed the sin of being unclothed in God's most holy presence?
Was God fascinated with the knowledge of good & evil?
Romans7:6: "But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held". Do you agree law refers to the forbidden knowledge of good & evil?
Are you defending your need for the forbidden knowledge of good & evil rather than trust Christ who lives in you & not worry about what's right & what's wrong?
If that was evil, then why were they naked in the first place? That had never been the problem. In God's eyes everyone is naked, and our finest work is like the fig leaves they sewed to cover up. The problem is that they began to HIDE from God and make excuses for their mistakes.
“rather than trust Christ who lives in you & not worry about what's right & what's wrong?”
Christ doesn’t teach us to not worry about right and wrong he teaches us to believe his word so we can discern between the two and follow the good
Didn't God forbid them from choosing the knowledge of good & evil? Genesis 2:17:"But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die". Why?
No. The first covenant was flawed by mankind and Jesus came so that we could become reunited with the father. Hebrews 8. Yahweh gave us the law not Adam & Eve or Lucifer.
So why didn't God give them the knowledge of good & evil that they remained unclothed in God's most holy presence?
So why didn't God give Adam and Eve the moral law & tell them to be clothed in God's most holy presence?
I admit that I'm no scholar. That said, I just don't understand your line of thinking . . . I've never heard this phrasing or terminology before, and I've been a part of the church while in my mother's womb . . . that's nearly 55 years. "Knowledge of Good and Evil" does tell anyone anything. First, that's the name of an unholy tree in the Garden of Eden. 2nd, it is a descriptive term of a particular form, or type of knowledge. What it isn't, however, is some form of entity. Jesus Redeems of us from the Curse of the Lord . . . not knowledge. That knowledge stays with us, thus we must overcome it by reflecting the Glory of Christ more and more each day. For example, am I to somehow be redeemed of my awareness of the strip clubs that I used to frequent prior to Transformation? Am I supposed to forget the plethora of women that I was sexually active with prior to my Transformation? And what about murder? Did Paul somehow forget, or be redeemed of the knowledge of remembering the sins that caused him to say that he was the "worst of sinners?"
Please forgive me for my words . . . I'm not trying to be mean or cruel. Just expressing my non-scholarly thoughts.
because they were already made in his image and called “very good “and had no inclination to do evil . Until Satan came and beguiled them with deception. They became sinners who have both good and evil in them and so did their children.
that’s why we need to believe the gospel, The gospel is not the “tree of the knowledge of good and evil” , it’s “the tree of life “ that repairs the conflict good and evil caused in our hearts.
“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”
John 5:24 KJV
we want to simply do that. Jesus isn’t saying go hear the law of Moses , he’s talking about the gospel he preached His word.
to pretend it doesn’t matter what we do good or evil or pretend we shouldn’t learn the difference between good and evil isn’t at all ever a thing in scripture. And will surely lead one astray
They can't handle it - YET, that's why. The same reason you don't let a little kid playing with a loaded handgun.
“And the Lord God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed.
And out of the ground made the Lord God to grow every tree that is pleasant to the sight, and good for food; the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of knowledge of good and evil.”
Genesis 2:8-9
Old Testament law ( knowledge of good and evil )
“But the word is very nigh unto thee, in thy mouth, and in thy heart, that thou mayest do it. See, I have set before thee this day life and good, and death and evil;”
Deuteronomy 30:14-15 KJV
Christs word in the gospel ( tree of life )
“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”
John 5:24 KJV
There are two testaments in the Bible one came to corrupted man knowing both good and evil , the other comes to purify those corrupted minds and hearts with the knowledge of God and give life to those who hear and believe.
it’s why Jesus is the one to believe
“And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.”
1 John 5:20 KJV
Clothe with what? Fig leaves that withered away in the cool of the day? God had to kill an animal to make clothes for them, that's the first foreshadowing of Christ!