You are still a slave to sin if you are still doing them. JESUS Gifted us The Way to Overcome!
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Just because you don't know any, that doesn't mean they don't exist. They're no going to grab a megaphone and yell, "Hey, look at me, I can do everything the Lord said not to do because I have fire insurance!" All you have to do is look at the lifestyles of those who attend OSAS churches. More than likely they'll say something like, "What I'm doing isn't sinful."
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Just because you don't know any, that doesn't mean they don't exist. They're no going to grab a megaphone and yell, "Hey, look at me, I can do everything the Lord said not to do because I have fire insurance!"
All you have to do is look at the lifestyles of those who attend OSAS churches.
In my opinion, a vast majority of those who claim to be saved do not a clue what salvation means.
I have serious concerns about many on this sight.
I think you are having this misunderstanding with the OP because you are focusing on the how not to sin instead of discussing the subject matter of his post which dwells on the need for believers not to sin. We can discuss the how on another thread while we concentrate here on the OP. Just my thought.
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I believe the Scripture states we can know by their fruit.
No fruit, no salvation.
Any person that claims to be a Christian and lives in sin is not saved and never has been.
Once a son always a son. A wayward son will be chastised by the Father.
He does not chastise those who are not His.
If you have never been chastised, you had better get on your knees and seek Jesus today.
No fruit, no salvation.
Any person that claims to be a Christian and lives in sin is not saved and never has been.
Once a son always a son. A wayward son will be chastised by the Father.
He does not chastise those who are not His.
If you have never been chastised, you had better get on your knees and seek Jesus today.
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sounds like quite the process
actually, no
blasphemy against the Spirit of God occurs when His acts are attributed to the devil
aka Jesus lays it out straight for the Scribes...Mark 3
28 “Truly, I say to you, all sins will be forgiven the children of man, and whatever blasphemies they utter, 29 but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin”—
and what engendered this response from Jesus?
30 for they were saying, “He has an unclean spirit.”
no one has to grow into that sin, or attend a semester. you can do it real quick like the Scribes et al
here it is all in one revealing chunk:
Blasphemy Against the Holy Spirit
22 And the scribes who came down from Jerusalem were saying, “He is possessed by Beelzebul,” and “by the prince of demons he casts out the demons.” 23 And he called them to him and said to them in parables, “How can Satan cast out Satan? 24 If a kingdom is divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand. 25 And if a house is divided against itself, that house will not be able to stand. 26 And if Satan has risen up against himself and is divided, he cannot stand, but is coming to an end. 27 But no one can enter a strong man’s house and plunder his goods, unless he first binds the strong man. Then indeed he may plunder his house.
28“Truly, I say to you, all sins will be forgiven the children of man, and whatever blasphemies they utter, 29 but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin”— 30 for they were saying, “He has an unclean spirit.”
Mark 3
annnnnd....here comes the excuses and invalid opinions.....
actually, no
blasphemy against the Spirit of God occurs when His acts are attributed to the devil
aka Jesus lays it out straight for the Scribes...Mark 3
28 “Truly, I say to you, all sins will be forgiven the children of man, and whatever blasphemies they utter, 29 but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin”—
and what engendered this response from Jesus?
30 for they were saying, “He has an unclean spirit.”
no one has to grow into that sin, or attend a semester. you can do it real quick like the Scribes et al
here it is all in one revealing chunk:
Blasphemy Against the Holy Spirit
22 And the scribes who came down from Jerusalem were saying, “He is possessed by Beelzebul,” and “by the prince of demons he casts out the demons.” 23 And he called them to him and said to them in parables, “How can Satan cast out Satan? 24 If a kingdom is divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand. 25 And if a house is divided against itself, that house will not be able to stand. 26 And if Satan has risen up against himself and is divided, he cannot stand, but is coming to an end. 27 But no one can enter a strong man’s house and plunder his goods, unless he first binds the strong man. Then indeed he may plunder his house.
28“Truly, I say to you, all sins will be forgiven the children of man, and whatever blasphemies they utter, 29 but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is guilty of an eternal sin”— 30 for they were saying, “He has an unclean spirit.”
Mark 3
annnnnd....here comes the excuses and invalid opinions.....
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that would be promoting sinlessness which scripture does not promote
scripture promotes forgiveness if you sin and otherwise, follow Christ.
if all you sin guides would keep your eye on the AUTHOR OF YOUR SALVATION, instead of the author of your downfall, you would live a richer more obedient life and not be so concerned with the perfection you can never attain
scripture promotes forgiveness if you sin and otherwise, follow Christ.
if all you sin guides would keep your eye on the AUTHOR OF YOUR SALVATION, instead of the author of your downfall, you would live a richer more obedient life and not be so concerned with the perfection you can never attain
2 Cor. 12:7-10 KJV says Paul has weaknesses caused by a messenger of Satan (a thorn in his flesh) that prompted Christ to answer his prayer, saying "my strength is made perfect in weakness." Paul concludes that he takes pleasure in his "infirmities" which seems to be translated from a word that means "moral frailty." It sounds like Paul is saying that he benefits to some degree from not being perfect due to the power of Christ. Take that as you may.
What do you see different? Please, I'm all open to anything you'd like to share.
What do you see different? Please, I'm all open to anything you'd like to share.
amen brother I never have doubted that about you can tell from reading your posts where you stand
I agree with what you had said I was just adding to it .
this part
“Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.
Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him. Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.”
1 John 3:2-3, 6-10 KJV
is not where one begins it’s the result of what you began saying because as you know it’s also a process Christ called any and all by sending out the gospel to all People
those who reject his calling and those who receive his calling with joy and peace in our hearts is the difference
we do have a choice that it’s capacity grows each day we have been made free now and can choose the good Christ has given us a choice in choosing us so we then have a choice between spirit and flesh as free men
“For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another.”
Galatians 5:13
we are free to use the linerty we have been given to serve God or serve the flesh it becomes a choice once one receives the spirit we can heed and follow or reject and stifle our own growth and destroy our own soul.
“Dearly beloved, I beseech you as strangers and pilgrims, abstain from fleshly lusts, which war against the soul;
…For so is the will of God, that with well doing ye may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men: As free, and not using your liberty for a cloak of maliciousness, but as the servants of God.”
1 Peter 2:11, 15-16
I believe we’re meant to be growing and following after these perfect things in our life though we will never actually attain perfection we always will
Have another step to take
It doesn’t matter how far we actually get what matters is we begin to recognize satans voice and Gods voice both are calling us as we recognize who’s who believers are going to choose the right path we become followers of the lord
I agree with what you had said I was just adding to it .
this part
“Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.
Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him. Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.”
1 John 3:2-3, 6-10 KJV
is not where one begins it’s the result of what you began saying because as you know it’s also a process Christ called any and all by sending out the gospel to all People
those who reject his calling and those who receive his calling with joy and peace in our hearts is the difference
we do have a choice that it’s capacity grows each day we have been made free now and can choose the good Christ has given us a choice in choosing us so we then have a choice between spirit and flesh as free men
“For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another.”
Galatians 5:13
we are free to use the linerty we have been given to serve God or serve the flesh it becomes a choice once one receives the spirit we can heed and follow or reject and stifle our own growth and destroy our own soul.
“Dearly beloved, I beseech you as strangers and pilgrims, abstain from fleshly lusts, which war against the soul;
…For so is the will of God, that with well doing ye may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men: As free, and not using your liberty for a cloak of maliciousness, but as the servants of God.”
1 Peter 2:11, 15-16
I believe we’re meant to be growing and following after these perfect things in our life though we will never actually attain perfection we always will
Have another step to take
It doesn’t matter how far we actually get what matters is we begin to recognize satans voice and Gods voice both are calling us as we recognize who’s who believers are going to choose the right path we become followers of the lord
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are you yet holy? sinless? shining with the glory of God like Moses? you never sin?
Ephesians 4:24
put on the new man, created in righteousness and true holiness...we were originally created in the image of God and this is God's re-creation in His image...the new man is the saved man in Christ. not our righteousness as scripture tells us, but with the righteousness of God IN Christ Jesus
IN Christ we are righteous. our spirits are now righteous with the righteousness of God. our flesh will die and we will receive new bodies, but we are still on this earth
stop thinking of yourself as a sinner saved by grace or, for that matter, a sinner who has some kind of righteousness of their own
everything
EVERYTHING
that is of worth, holy, righteous and sinless is ONLY because of our life in Christ and nothing we can say or do outside of that counts for any sort of salvation or holiness whatsoever
Ephesians 4:24
put on the new man, created in righteousness and true holiness...we were originally created in the image of God and this is God's re-creation in His image...the new man is the saved man in Christ. not our righteousness as scripture tells us, but with the righteousness of God IN Christ Jesus
IN Christ we are righteous. our spirits are now righteous with the righteousness of God. our flesh will die and we will receive new bodies, but we are still on this earth
stop thinking of yourself as a sinner saved by grace or, for that matter, a sinner who has some kind of righteousness of their own
everything
EVERYTHING
that is of worth, holy, righteous and sinless is ONLY because of our life in Christ and nothing we can say or do outside of that counts for any sort of salvation or holiness whatsoever