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Jun 16, 2011
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Yeah i meant that I've gone up one going down and got to the top which doesn't matter and my Jesus remark was a cheeky reply to the Darwin and Dawkins remark LAD made which he took in good spirit :)
 
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jimmydiggs

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Yeah i meant that I've gone up one going down and got to the top
How about one that matches your speed?

You run up at 3kmps, and it goes down at 3kmps? You increase to 5, it increases to 5. You'll get nowhere. Go to the mall, and walk the same speed up the down escelator as the escalator goes down. You will stay in teh same place in relation to top-bottom of the escalator.

which doesn't matter
Actually yes, It's one of several philosophical arguments against an eternal universe.

and my Jesus remark was a cheeky reply to the Darwin and Dawkins remark LAD made which he took in good spirit :)
Not responding, but not dropping, so you can know that this isn't a big concern of mine.
 
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Dawkins has some ideas I'm a fan of his work.
So he's your messiah?


Ok 15 million differences so 1 a year maybe we'd evolve after 15 million years. My eternal destiny to a life of nothingness is something I think about but nothing much I can do about it.
If it's true, no... there's nothing you can do about it. So why think that you can create that which is illusory, to be true?
 
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Yeah i meant that I've gone up one going down and got to the top which doesn't matter and my Jesus remark was a cheeky reply to the Darwin and Dawkins remark LAD made which he took in good spirit :)
lol i just dont take bait like alot of christians on here :p im wiser
 
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haha I think so LAD. Jimmy obviously if you go up an escalator at 5kmph and it's going down the same speed you'll go nowhere that's basic stuff, I managed to get to the top as I'm sure many have so I must of been going faster, on Dawkins he isn't my Messiah I don't need to have one in my life it's pretty good as it is.
 
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haha I think so LAD. Jimmy obviously if you go up an escalator at 5kmph and it's going down the same speed you'll go nowhere that's basic stuff,
YES! YOU GOT IT!!!!

Here's a monkey playing a kazoo in celebration of your acheivement.



Now, that is only an analogy to the problem of an eternal universe. Try traversing an infinte number of past events, with the goal of getting to the present.


I managed to get to the top as I'm sure many have so I must of been going faster,
Correct... It was an analogy to the problem... oh nvm read the above sentences.. THe one below the monkey.
on Dawkins he isn't my Messiah I don't need to have one in my life it's pretty good as it is.
You missed my point, but that's okay.
 
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EDIT:Tell you what Psymon, I'm gunna go take a shower. I'll be back in 30 to see if you've figured it out.
EDIT2: 30 minutes that is, not million years.
 
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Lad

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AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!! a man with no neck!!!!! :O *runs away in horror*
 
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Come back in 30 minutes and tell me what you are trying to put across because honestly you have spoke a lot of nonsense so far you could come out with anything. :)
 
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Come back in 30 minutes and tell me what you are trying to put across because honestly you have spoke a lot of nonsense so far you could come out with anything. :)
Please substatiate your point, that I have "spoke a lot of nonsense".


Apparently Lad got it.

Just to make sure.

Lad, if you are still looking at this thread, did you get my point about the escalator?
 
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Lad

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actually jimmy i have absolutely no idea in fairy land what your on about -.-

and yes i did get your escalator point,

no im not going to comment on it.
 
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actually jimmy i have absolutely no idea in fairy land what your on about -.-

and yes i did get your escalator point,

no im not going to comment on it.
I just wanted to know if you understood the escalator analogy. No further comment necesary, I just didn't want to claim something that wasn't so.
 
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Lad

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right. now can you please make clear your point to psymon about the messiah thing?? cos i would also like to understand your connotation.
 
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right. now can you please make clear your point to psymon about the messiah thing?? cos i would also like to understand your connotation.
I thought he was asking in relation to my point about escalators, past events, and eternal universes...


As for the messiah comment, Dawkins is just about worshipped by many of his fans. Atheism saves a person in the short run from dealing with the reality of a Holy God. The New Atheists, such as Dawkins have popularized atheism in the last few decades. Increasingly so the last decade, and have in a round about way, "saved" athiests from the reality of a Holy God.
 
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But like I said he isn't my " Messiah" most Atheists don't worship him but appreciate his work, there's no Atheist temple with his image to pray too, It's just simply a man who to us makes sense I don't live by any of his rules or commandments I just think he's a smart guy.
 
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But like I said he isn't my " Messiah" most Atheists don't worship him but appreciate his work, there's no Atheist temple with his image to pray too, It's just simply a man who to us makes sense I don't live by any of his rules or commandments I just think he's a smart guy.
Sure, atheist have a temple they worship in and an image they pray to. They are no different than any other sect. Their god is themselves, and they worship themselves. They are their own saviors. But what man has saved himself from death? Not so smart of a guy who does this.

May Jesus bless you.
 
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I don't worship myself, I just live my life, I have no temple and have no desire to be worshiped. I don't pray that's the point i'm in control of my life and make the decisions in it, why is it not smart?
 
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I don't worship myself, I just live my life, I have no temple and have no desire to be worshiped. I don't pray that's the point i'm in control of my life and make the decisions in it, why is it not smart?
Haha. Tell you the truth, I have two brothers that are Atheists. so this idea is not foreign to me. They also think they are in control of their lives and this is how one becomes his own god. You do, in fact worship yourself. You worship your ideas of right and wrong.

You don't have any control over your life my friend. Not in the least. If you did you could heal yourself when you are sick, or raise yourself from the dead. You can't even determine the weather and the seasons. You are subject to vanity as we all are. And you can't even make your own decisions. It is more sad than laughable.

May Jesus bless you.