what are your thoughts of Apostle Kathryn Krick
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The worldly folk love false prophets and will accept them with joy. Christians will know better and go with the message that Jesus gave and tends to be rejected by the world because it calls
People out of the worldly system of sin and death the worldly are so addicted to and deceived by
People out of the worldly system of sin and death the worldly are so addicted to and deceived by
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Thanks, but no. Though my mother (deceased) had spoken about Dowie and others coming through Australia in the early days. Quite miraculous some of those days.
As to my Uncle, you may like to read his book which I was able to download on the forum, (Overcomersonline) Look in the eschatological area and for the thread `Fires before the Dawn.`
BTW I do not believe all that group (OO) say. But was able to download the book. Very interesting as written in 1991 and what is written coming about.
As to my Uncle, you may like to read his book which I was able to download on the forum, (Overcomersonline) Look in the eschatological area and for the thread `Fires before the Dawn.`
BTW I do not believe all that group (OO) say. But was able to download the book. Very interesting as written in 1991 and what is written coming about.
“And when they had gone through the isle unto Paphos, they found a certain sorcerer, a false prophet, a Jew, whose name was Bar–jesus: …..Then Saul, (who also is called Paul,) filled with the Holy Ghost, set his eyes on him, And said, O full of all subtilty and all mischief, thou child of the devil, thou enemy of all righteousness, wilt thou not cease to pervert the right ways of the Lord?”
Acts 13:6, 9-10 KJV
It could be a misinterpretation of what Jesus was saying to think that false prophets ll never be spoken badly if I think what he’s saying is more along the lines of this
“Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake. Rejoice ye in that day, and leap for joy: for, behold, your reward is great in heaven: for in the like manner did their fathers unto the prophets.
….Woe unto you, when all men shall speak well of you! for so did their fathers to the false prophets.”
Luke 6:22-23, 26 KJV
the truth of Gods word isn’t well received in the world it actually causes unbelievers to turn against us when we consistently bring up Jesus and the gospel the truth is offensive to the worldly
and the lies are better received in the world because it’s wicked. People have always rejected the truth of Gods word like the ot prophets. But the false prophets were embraced and followed after because they allowed for sin saying it wasn’t a big deal and prophecies lies and led the people astray
what keeps us safe is to realize the truth first then false prophets are obvious
“And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.”
Matthew 24:11
that’s why people speak well
Of them they’ve been deceived
“Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.”
1 John 4:1 KJV
Christians who follow After the truth aren’t going to have much good to say about false prophets. People who don’t want the gospel are going to love them and exalt them as wise
that’s why “the glorious grace” doctrines that omit the gospel are so popular it’s based on a deception removing christs word from salvstion
Acts 13:6, 9-10 KJV
It could be a misinterpretation of what Jesus was saying to think that false prophets ll never be spoken badly if I think what he’s saying is more along the lines of this
“Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake. Rejoice ye in that day, and leap for joy: for, behold, your reward is great in heaven: for in the like manner did their fathers unto the prophets.
….Woe unto you, when all men shall speak well of you! for so did their fathers to the false prophets.”
Luke 6:22-23, 26 KJV
the truth of Gods word isn’t well received in the world it actually causes unbelievers to turn against us when we consistently bring up Jesus and the gospel the truth is offensive to the worldly
and the lies are better received in the world because it’s wicked. People have always rejected the truth of Gods word like the ot prophets. But the false prophets were embraced and followed after because they allowed for sin saying it wasn’t a big deal and prophecies lies and led the people astray
what keeps us safe is to realize the truth first then false prophets are obvious
“And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.”
Matthew 24:11
that’s why people speak well
Of them they’ve been deceived
“Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.”
1 John 4:1 KJV
Christians who follow After the truth aren’t going to have much good to say about false prophets. People who don’t want the gospel are going to love them and exalt them as wise
that’s why “the glorious grace” doctrines that omit the gospel are so popular it’s based on a deception removing christs word from salvstion
I'm saying that if anyone is spoken against, I think that this indicates that there is something right about them.
The devil sees them as a target because they are a threat to his kingdom.
Those who are never spoken against are more likely to be the false prophets. The devil doesn't see them as a target because they and their ministries are no threat to his agenda in this world.
The devil sees them as a target because they are a threat to his kingdom.
Those who are never spoken against are more likely to be the false prophets. The devil doesn't see them as a target because they and their ministries are no threat to his agenda in this world.
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Someone being directly confronted by someone who is preaching the truth may be a different story; especially if the pawn of the devil is attempting to hinder the ministry of the one who is preaching the truth.
But when it comes to gossip about ministers, it is usually the faithful ministers who are spoken against, every time.
But when it comes to gossip about ministers, it is usually the faithful ministers who are spoken against, every time.
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well gossip shouldn’t be a thing either way.
But yeah I agree the truth and those of the truth are going to be faced with a lot of opposition and insult , a lot of folk aren’t going to like them , it’s not going to win any popularity contests to preach the truth. They will lose potential friends along the way ect
The gospel offputs the flesh it doesn’t approve of how people live thier lives
and so many are beholden to the flesh and live by the lusts of the flesh still , so the spiritual word of God is contrary to the flesh like an insult or accusation it’s offensive
But yeah I agree the truth and those of the truth are going to be faced with a lot of opposition and insult , a lot of folk aren’t going to like them , it’s not going to win any popularity contests to preach the truth. They will lose potential friends along the way ect
The gospel offputs the flesh it doesn’t approve of how people live thier lives
and so many are beholden to the flesh and live by the lusts of the flesh still , so the spiritual word of God is contrary to the flesh like an insult or accusation it’s offensive
I think videos do injustice.
I've watched several videos and everyone that is supposed to be possessed by Demons I don't feel it in my spirit.
Not a single Demon has spoken against this Woman like she was their Enemy.
In my experiences, Demons normally tell the one casting them out to burn in hell, to get bent and die, to how much they hate them, and they use Their Own Voice, not the one who is possessed.
Of course, it's all Youtube, not live television. I just don't feel the genuine presence of Evil in these possessed people. There is no way a real Demon Possessed person could be in a real atmosphere were true Believers of God are gathered and be Comfortable enough to wait around through Preaching until altar calls before suddenly acting out. If the atmosphere were genuine Believers "gathered" in the Name of Christ, a Demon would be so uncomfortable and disturbed it would react right away. Something does not seem legit here.
I've watched several videos and everyone that is supposed to be possessed by Demons I don't feel it in my spirit.
Not a single Demon has spoken against this Woman like she was their Enemy.
In my experiences, Demons normally tell the one casting them out to burn in hell, to get bent and die, to how much they hate them, and they use Their Own Voice, not the one who is possessed.
Of course, it's all Youtube, not live television. I just don't feel the genuine presence of Evil in these possessed people. There is no way a real Demon Possessed person could be in a real atmosphere were true Believers of God are gathered and be Comfortable enough to wait around through Preaching until altar calls before suddenly acting out. If the atmosphere were genuine Believers "gathered" in the Name of Christ, a Demon would be so uncomfortable and disturbed it would react right away. Something does not seem legit here.
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It does not match what we read in the bible about casting out demons. In the bible they were commanded and they came out. None of this prolonged acting out something seen in movies.
There are no examples of Christians who are born again needing demon cast out of them to get victory over some area of deeper sanctification. There were no examples of Christians being counseled on how to let the demons manifest, before prayer as they do with these people.
There is your scriptural reason.
She is not an apostle especially if she can't discern this was not a demon. But of course calling oneself an apostle is always a dead give away that they are not. I am pentecostal but I have yet to see anyone call themselves an apostle that was sound in doctrine. They are all over the place using the word of God to manipulate the ignorant with bad hermeneutics.
I think calling oneself an apostle is not scriptural. I believe that those who were used to found the church were apostles and now we have teachers, preachers, pastors, evangelists, and prophets but even those prophets that are operating in that gift don't call themselves that, others do. That is a whole other discussion but it is one which would support my scriptural reasons for saying this is not of God in the video.
But we also have the Holy Spirit and should be able to discern emotionalism and faking it. Do you think a demon would have her banging her head on her arm instead of the concrete? She is doing that to play out a role she has imagined. It is nothing that can be found in the scripture.
Many of these Christians that "manifest" are trained and taught to do this in a "pre deliverance" session. Then of course as these "deliverance ministries" spread and get popular other Christians see the "manifestations" and learn that this is how one goes about "letting the demons manifest" during the prayer session.
It goes back to the book "Pigs in the Parlor" in the 80s that helped launch the popular "Deliverance Ministries". That book taught the person getting prayed for to act out whatever thoughts came to their minds. So they are basically playing out the acting role while telling themselves that based on the teaching from the deliverance ministries that they are "letting the demons manifest" by doing this acting role, therefore they are not actually lying or making it up or faking it, they are "doing it by faith" as it were.
I know that sounds messed up and hard to believe that anyone would fall for it, but to the person who has read one or two of these deliverance ministry manuals they have a fine way of persuading the person that they are not lying by acting these manifestations out.
And this is what you are seeing in the video. A well meaning christian can get caught up in this all in an effort to get victory over a besetting sin that they struggle with.
The path of sanctification for them will still be the same after all this emotional play acting. They will still be required to face temptation, and love Jesus more than the sin and say no, and experience the Grace of God to settle, strengthen and establish them building upon one success at a time until they become strong in that area that they once struggled with. Some will do this and eventually get victory and they will say that they finally got the "break through" when they went through deliverance but when you ask them about it they still had to walk out the same battle of resisting sin and getting strong by one battle at a time.
Again, it is disturbing to me that everyone is shouting hallelujah and can't discern between this faking deliverance ministries that is going on today and real casting out of demons. It is as plain to me as light and dark. The Holy Spirit does not leave me wondering but clearly directs me and leads me. Those who profess to be baptized in the Holy Spirit and have the gift of discerning of spirits should be able to the difference between fake exorcisms and real.
And whenever a minister needs to scold the crowd for not praising God loud enough it reeks of soulish, fleshly, personality. God is not telling her to say that. She is on her own, doing her own thing and God is not any where near it.
But after God warns people, and shows them that they are off the deep end, and they choose it over the word, He will eventually give them over to their deception. If they are getting a crowd, invitations to speak, and lots of offerings and choose to keep doing it after God has told them that what they are doing is not scripturally correct and that they are contributing to encouraging people to fake demons possession, but they ignore his voice they will eventually believe the lying spirit that is speaking to them and they will be given over to their false teachings and false Jesus that they are making up that is not the one in the scriptures.
It keeps happening decade after decade. Sometimes it is the prosperity movement, sometimes it is deliverance ministries, sometimes it another fad, but they all have the same thing in common, emotionalism and hype, a crowd that gives them money.
David Wilkerson preached some messages about these deliverance ministries.
There are no examples of Christians who are born again needing demon cast out of them to get victory over some area of deeper sanctification. There were no examples of Christians being counseled on how to let the demons manifest, before prayer as they do with these people.
There is your scriptural reason.
She is not an apostle especially if she can't discern this was not a demon. But of course calling oneself an apostle is always a dead give away that they are not. I am pentecostal but I have yet to see anyone call themselves an apostle that was sound in doctrine. They are all over the place using the word of God to manipulate the ignorant with bad hermeneutics.
I think calling oneself an apostle is not scriptural. I believe that those who were used to found the church were apostles and now we have teachers, preachers, pastors, evangelists, and prophets but even those prophets that are operating in that gift don't call themselves that, others do. That is a whole other discussion but it is one which would support my scriptural reasons for saying this is not of God in the video.
But we also have the Holy Spirit and should be able to discern emotionalism and faking it. Do you think a demon would have her banging her head on her arm instead of the concrete? She is doing that to play out a role she has imagined. It is nothing that can be found in the scripture.
Many of these Christians that "manifest" are trained and taught to do this in a "pre deliverance" session. Then of course as these "deliverance ministries" spread and get popular other Christians see the "manifestations" and learn that this is how one goes about "letting the demons manifest" during the prayer session.
It goes back to the book "Pigs in the Parlor" in the 80s that helped launch the popular "Deliverance Ministries". That book taught the person getting prayed for to act out whatever thoughts came to their minds. So they are basically playing out the acting role while telling themselves that based on the teaching from the deliverance ministries that they are "letting the demons manifest" by doing this acting role, therefore they are not actually lying or making it up or faking it, they are "doing it by faith" as it were.
I know that sounds messed up and hard to believe that anyone would fall for it, but to the person who has read one or two of these deliverance ministry manuals they have a fine way of persuading the person that they are not lying by acting these manifestations out.
And this is what you are seeing in the video. A well meaning christian can get caught up in this all in an effort to get victory over a besetting sin that they struggle with.
The path of sanctification for them will still be the same after all this emotional play acting. They will still be required to face temptation, and love Jesus more than the sin and say no, and experience the Grace of God to settle, strengthen and establish them building upon one success at a time until they become strong in that area that they once struggled with. Some will do this and eventually get victory and they will say that they finally got the "break through" when they went through deliverance but when you ask them about it they still had to walk out the same battle of resisting sin and getting strong by one battle at a time.
Again, it is disturbing to me that everyone is shouting hallelujah and can't discern between this faking deliverance ministries that is going on today and real casting out of demons. It is as plain to me as light and dark. The Holy Spirit does not leave me wondering but clearly directs me and leads me. Those who profess to be baptized in the Holy Spirit and have the gift of discerning of spirits should be able to the difference between fake exorcisms and real.
And whenever a minister needs to scold the crowd for not praising God loud enough it reeks of soulish, fleshly, personality. God is not telling her to say that. She is on her own, doing her own thing and God is not any where near it.
But after God warns people, and shows them that they are off the deep end, and they choose it over the word, He will eventually give them over to their deception. If they are getting a crowd, invitations to speak, and lots of offerings and choose to keep doing it after God has told them that what they are doing is not scripturally correct and that they are contributing to encouraging people to fake demons possession, but they ignore his voice they will eventually believe the lying spirit that is speaking to them and they will be given over to their false teachings and false Jesus that they are making up that is not the one in the scriptures.
It keeps happening decade after decade. Sometimes it is the prosperity movement, sometimes it is deliverance ministries, sometimes it another fad, but they all have the same thing in common, emotionalism and hype, a crowd that gives them money.
David Wilkerson preached some messages about these deliverance ministries.
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This is true. And that was not demon possession on that video. Y'all want to see demon possession? If this is real, and not faked, it would look like this.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/n...ace-wound-rants-raves-Brazilian-hospital.html
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/n...ace-wound-rants-raves-Brazilian-hospital.html