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Their normal attitudes and behaviour, how Christlike, or un-Christlike, they speak and act. That will tell me if they are truly filled/under the control of the Holy Spirit, or rather that they are merely just imagining they are, or they have convinced themselves that they are, or the religious institution they belong to tells them/infers that they are.
You mean how in one Verse we see Peter speaking like a Sailor and cussing up a storm while denying he knew Christ and in another Verse he preached and 3,000 souls were saved?
 

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Care to give us a definition of.....religious spirit....?
Hello @peldom10 :love:

So sorry, this is going to be a very long definition but, I do think it is necessary.


Consider the Pharisees... full of God's Word - The Torah, Seed of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, circumcised, living in Jerusalem, going in and out of the Temple, in covenant with God according to the Law of Moses yet.... FULL OF PRIDE.

In the Day of Visitation, they rejected Jesus Christ face to face - basically, looked GOD right in the eye and rejected Him and His Lamb their Messiah - The ONLY ONE that could take ALL their sin away.

The Pharisees could not recognize Jesus Christ because they were spiritually blind and deaf because of PRIDE.

A religious spirit will operate in a person that is full of Bible knowledge and other religions that they have received from their human reasoning and commentaries, and man, and even devils- lying spirits but, were not taught the scriptures by the Holy Spirit. (Note: Every preacher and commentary must be checked with the Holy Spirit)


They will do all kinds of "religious works" and boast about them and condemn others for not doing the same "religious works" that they do. They exalt themselves and boast that they are better than others....


Luke 18:9-14

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9 And he (Jesus) spake this parable unto certain which trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others:

10 Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican.

11 The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.

12 I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.

13 And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.

14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.


They create all kinds of denominations and doctrines which creates division in the Body of Christ and lead others away from the Truth of Jesus Christ and His Gift of Salvation for us and the Father's Promise of the Holy Spirit that will lead us and guide us into ALL Truth.

They put their followers under all kinds of "religious works" that they must do to maintain salvation or be "good enough" to be saved and go to heaven and be accepted by God. It's absolutely horrible and so NOT God.


They just go on and on about all their seminary degrees and years of studying the scriptures, and all their different languages they speak especially Greek and Hebrew... "works, works, works"..."blah, blah, blah"

yet, they say NOTHING about how wonderful God is and how AMAZING God's LOVE is, how INCREDIBLE and LIFEGIVING His Word is...and how AWESOME fellowshipping with God is, how NOTHING compares to knowing and loving God, encouraging others to encounter their own relationship with Jesus Christ....

To be free from such a demonic prideful religious spirit, just simply humble oneself, repent of pride and trusting in works, call on the Name of Jesus Christ and ask to be filled with the Holy Spirit. God will resist the proud but give grace to the humble.

I hope this helped! Much love to you for asking your question! :love:
 

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You mean how in one Verse we see Peter speaking like a Sailor and cussing up a storm while denying he knew Christ and in another Verse he preached and 3,000 souls were saved?
Yes, but Peter had to repent.

Pretty sure had he went on cussing like a sailor and denying Christ it would be evident that the Holy Spirit wasn't moving on him.
 

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Unless you know the language yourself, or someone nearby knows it and can translate what is being said into your native tongue, word for word, how would you know if someone is using a God given gift, or merely uttering something akin to baby babble that has been conjured up by their own vain imagination!
Hello @ChristianTonyB :love:

Welcome to CC!


It is only by the Holy Spirit that we know or recognize anything of God - including Jesus Christ our Savior, Lord and King.

The same Holy Spirit that gives and operates in us the gift of speaking in tongues, can also give us and operate in us the gift of interpretation of tongues....this is true.

At a home worship and prayer meeting, the worshipper began to sing in tongues, as he sang I could hear him in tongues with my physical ears, yet, in my head with my spiritual ears I could hear the worshippers voice in English which is my native language. I was absolutely AMAZED that I heard English in my head and what AMAZING words..... he spoke of how no one compares to the most high God, who can understand the depths of the fragrances of His Love, who can climb to the heights of His embrace........who can approach Him and not be overcome in the depths of His Holiness......

As a true believer, we need the empowering of the Holy Spirit. We need our "spiritual eyes" and "spiritual ears" opened. It's a game changer. We go from operating as a "natural man" to operating as a "spiritual man."



1 Corinthians 2:13-14

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13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.

14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
 
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Yes, but Peter had to repent.

Pretty sure had he went on cussing like a sailor and denying Christ it would be evident that the Holy Spirit wasn't moving on him.
Amen!

But it is also evident where sin abounds, the Grace of God abounds more [Romans 5:20].

We all sin, and the vast majority are sins we never intended to do. Someone attacks us and out of self we retaliate. We do indeed Repent. But thankfully, in our moment of Weakness, the Grace of God is there greater than our Weakness!
 

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Hello @peldom10 :love:

So sorry, this is going to be a very long definition but, I do think it is necessary.

Consider the Pharisees... full of God's Word - The Torah, Seed of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, circumcised, living in Jerusalem, going in and out of the Temple, in covenant with God according to the Law of Moses yet.... FULL OF PRIDE.

In the Day of Visitation, they rejected Jesus Christ face to face - basically, looked GOD right in the eye and rejected Him and His Lamb their Messiah - The ONLY ONE that could take ALL their sin away.

The Pharisees could not recognize Jesus Christ because they were spiritually blind and deaf because of PRIDE.

A religious spirit will operate in a person that is full of Bible knowledge and other religions that they have received from their human reasoning and commentaries, and man, and even devils- lying spirits but, were not taught the scriptures by the Holy Spirit. (Note: Every preacher and commentary must be checked with the Holy Spirit)

They will do all kinds of "religious works" and boast about them and condemn others for not doing the same "religious works" that they do. They exalt themselves and boast that they are better than others....


Luke 18:9-14

King James Version

9 And he (Jesus) spake this parable unto certain which trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others:

10 Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican.

11 The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.

12 I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.

13 And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.

14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.


They create all kinds of denominations and doctrines which creates division in the Body of Christ and lead others away from the Truth of Jesus Christ and His Gift of Salvation for us and the Father's Promise of the Holy Spirit that will lead us and guide us into ALL Truth.

They put their followers under all kinds of "religious works" that they must do to maintain salvation or be "good enough" to be saved and go to heaven and be accepted by God. It's absolutely horrible and so NOT God.

They just go on and on about all their seminary degrees and years of studying the scriptures, and all their different languages they speak especially Greek and Hebrew... "works, works, works"..."blah, blah, blah"

yet, they say NOTHING about how wonderful God is and how AMAZING God's LOVE is, how INCREDIBLE and LIFEGIVING His Word is...and how AWESOME fellowshipping with God is, how NOTHING compares to knowing and loving God, encouraging others to encounter their own relationship with Jesus Christ....

To be free from such a demonic prideful religious spirit, just simply humble oneself, repent of pride and trusting in works, call on the Name of Jesus Christ and ask to be filled with the Holy Spirit. God will resist the proud but give grace to the humble.

I hope this helped! Much love to you for asking your question! :love:
You have some valid points and some not so valid.

I agree the Pharisee were clean on the outside but inside were full of dead men's bones. But you're wrong that they were full of God's word—they were full of their own traditions. Jesus never criticized the Pharisees for being full of God's word, but for elevating their own traditions over God's word; and for not understanding His word correctly.
 

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You have some valid points and some not so valid.

I agree the Pharisee were clean on the outside but inside were full of dead men's bones. But you're wrong that they were full of God's word—they were full of their own traditions. Jesus never criticized the Pharisees for being full of God's word, but for elevating their own traditions over God's word; and for not understanding His word correctly.
The Pharisees had the Torah and read it every Sabbath in the synagogue. They were full of the Torah and all the writings of the Prophets, and the Psalms and the Proverbs.
 
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The Pharisees had the Torah and read it every Sabbath in the synagogue. They were full of the Torah and all the writings of the Prophets, and the Psalms and the Proverbs.
I will say though, the TORAH, is 100% Truth. It was the LAW that tripped them up. Christ pointed out they were abusing the Law for personal gain and prophet. They turned the Holy Temple into the first ever public Mall!
 

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Many people want the gifts of the Holy Spirit, but not many want to seek them out.

God will not be mocked. We will reap exactly what we sow. If we sow to the Spirit, then we will reap of the Spirit. If we sow to the flesh, then we will reap of the flesh.

If we want to be a vessel for the Lord then we have to pray, study his Word, seek Him, deny our own selves and the flesh, and walk in the Spirit.

If we fail at times, then we have an advocate with the Father...Jesus Christ.

If we take it all to Him, then He will fix it. But we have to submit to Him and walk with Him in the Spirit. If we are not willing to do that then we might as well forget about it...God's not going to be blessing us with any gifts of the Holy Spirit.

I can assure you folks if we don't live it God's way, repent when we sin, or try to sneak around and hide anything...Then the true genuine Holy Ghost will tell on us and make it evident. What's done in darkness will come to the light.

That's why there are so many out there looking so foolish, weak, causing confusion and reproach. They are not willing to submit to the Lord and do it his way.
 

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Amen!

But it is also evident where sin abounds, the Grace of God abounds more [Romans 5:20].

We all sin, and the vast majority are sins we never intended to do. Someone attacks us and out of self we retaliate. We do indeed Repent. But thankfully, in our moment of Weakness, the Grace of God is there greater than our Weakness!
Yes, God judges the heart, and he knows when people are truly repentant or not.

Those who are not truly repentant will not receive of Him.
 

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I will say though, the TORAH, is 100% Truth. It was the LAW that tripped them up. Christ pointed out they were abusing the Law for personal gain and prophet. They turned the Holy Temple into the first ever public Mall!
Yes, I agree the TORAH is 100% Truth, Everyone trips over the LAW, no one can fulfill it - proud or humble.

The Pharisees were not able to recognize Jesus Christ because their PRIDE rendered them blind and deaf.
 

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The Pharisees had the Torah and read it every Sabbath in the synagogue. They were full of the Torah and all the writings of the Prophets, and the Psalms and the Proverbs.
Right, but they didn't understand what they read; and they gave more importance to their traditions.

They may have read God's word but they weren't full of it, nor did they take it seriously; it went in one ear and out the other.
 
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Yes, I agree the TORAH is 100% Truth, Everyone trips over the LAW, no one can fulfill it - proud or humble.

The Pharisees were not able to recognize Jesus Christ because their PRIDE rendered them blind and deaf.
Amen!


But deep inside, don't you believe they knew Christ was the Messiah, but since He did not wage war against Rome and their enemies, they set out to disprove Him?

Same attitude as Judas. He knew Christ was the Messiah, but he wanted a Messiah that was Prophesied that killed their enemies. That Version is Coming, but thankfully, God had Gentiles being Grafted in first :cool:
 

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I have a Leviathan spirit, a Jezebel spirit and a Religious spirit. Do you know of one book I can purchase to get rid of all three or will I have to buy three separate books? You think books will be enough or will I need a seminar or DVDs too?
You need to stop with the nonsense. Quit looking to the fakes to try to use that as a method to fight against the Word of God.

The Word of God is the truth, and it will stand when this worlds on fire. It's a two-edged sword. So, you need to get in it, have faith in it, and quit trying to disprove it. Unless you find yourself fighting against God. That is definitely not a good place to be for anyone especially a Christian.

Quit looking to men and look straight to the Lord and let Him teach you and show you.
 

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The Pharisees were not able to recognize Jesus Christ because their PRIDE rendered them blind and deaf.
Pride may have been a part, but they didn't recognize Jesus mainly because of ignorance. Not all the Pharisees rejected Jesus. He had Pahrisee disciples, both before and after His resurrection.
 

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I do not deny this facts!I only cant find your way of interpreting this verses.
Also it seems that you dont read my post.
I said that 1.cor.12,30 says clear that not all Christians will receive the gift of speaking in tongues.
The scripture you refer to is about the Spiritual gift of speaking in tongues that is later Interpreted by someone with that gift for the edification of the church body.
 
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