Trinitarian analogy

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Believe what you want, but the FATHER does not come and kill the Beast.
The Ancient of Days does come and kills the Beast.
the Second Coming of Christ does come and kills the Beast!

The Tanakh is correct, Gill is WRONG!!
 
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Daniel 7:13 matches Revelation 5:6 [anthropomorphism] Lamb with 7 horns/eyes = 7 Spirits
 

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Believe what you want, but the FATHER does not come and kill the Beast.
The Ancient of Days does come and kills the Beast.
the Second Coming of Christ does come and kills the Beast!
But Daniel has the Son of man coming to the ancient of days. Obviously one is Christ and other is his Father.

Daniel does not say who killed the beast, only that the beast was killed.



Dan 7:11 I beheld then because of the voice of the great words which the horn spake: I beheld even till the beast was slain, and his body destroyed, and given to the burning flame.


Another issue here is this beast is killed before he is given to flame while the two beasts in Revelation 19 go into the fire alive.

Rev 19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

Daniel and Revelation are not the same books and same events. Similar imagery is used but the details are often opposite.
 

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Daniel 7:13 matches Revelation 5:6 [anthropomorphism] Lamb with 7 horns/eyes = 7 Spirits
And even there we see Christ coming to his Father just as He as the Son of man came to his father, the ancient of days in Daniel. You have misidentified who the ancient of days is.
 

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It seems to me that God the Father is eternal (timeless), uncaused, and exists necessarily.

I don't think any of these things can be said of a material body, which are composite things made of matter. Especially if we believe that all matter was created by God from nothing.
 
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But Daniel has the Son of man coming to the ancient of days. Obviously one is Christ and other is his Father.

Daniel does not say who killed the beast, only that the beast was killed.



Dan 7:11 I beheld then because of the voice of the great words which the horn spake: I beheld even till the beast was slain, and his body destroyed, and given to the burning flame.


Another issue here is this beast is killed before he is given to flame while the two beasts in Revelation 19 go into the fire alive.

Rev 19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

Daniel and Revelation are not the same books and same events. Similar imagery is used but the details are often opposite.
It is Symbolism concerning Son of Man.

Daniel is not Wrong when he writes 21 I looked and the horn that was like this waged war with the holy ones and overwhelmed them.
22 Until the Ancient of Days came and gave revenge to the high holy ones, and the time arrived that the holy ones inherited the kingdom.
 
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The Father NEVER comes and wages War, never never never never never

The WORD made flesh, Who is the Ancient of Days, does come and kills the Beast at Armageddon.

The the WORD made Flesh is Judge who cast the Horn/Beast into the Lake of Fire.

How do we know the Ancient of Days, I AM, is Judge [Christ]?
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
 
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I am just posting what is right in the Bible, no trickery or deceit.
 

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It is Symbolism concerning Son of Man.

Daniel is not Wrong when he writes 21 I looked and the horn that was like this waged war with the holy ones and overwhelmed them.
22 Until the Ancient of Days came and gave revenge to the high holy ones, and the time arrived that the holy ones inherited the kingdom.

This still doesn't identify who killed the beast.
 

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The Father NEVER comes and wages War, never never never never never
Of course he does. He uses fire to kill an entire army.

Rev 20:9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
 
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Of course he does. He uses fire to kill an entire army.

Rev 20:9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
God did not leave Heaven, just sent Fire from Heaven.
 
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The Ancient of Days however, COMES and REVENGES the SAINTS!

That is Christ after the Second Coming at Armageddon!
 

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It DOES IDENTIFY who Comes and Revenges the Saints!

It doesn't say that. Your verse says he gave revenge to others, so not doing the revenge himself.

You are wrong that Jesus is the ancient of days. He is clearly someone else in Daniel 7.
 
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22 Until the Ancient of Days came and gave revenge to the high holy ones, and the time arrived that the holy ones inherited the kingdom.

What does Daniel write in the first 6 words in Verse 22?

Until the Ancient of Days [[[came]]]
 

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God did not leave Heaven, just sent Fire from Heaven.
Doesn't change that he waged an act of war. The same concept can be applied that a person can push a button and send a missile to attack an army. You don't have to be physically present to wage war.
 
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It doesn't say that. Your verse says he gave revenge to others, so not doing the revenge himself.

You are wrong that Jesus is the ancient of days. He is clearly someone else in Daniel 7.
You are wrong that the Ancient of Days is the Father!
 

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22 Until the Ancient of Days came and gave revenge to the high holy ones, and the time arrived that the holy ones inherited the kingdom.

What does Daniel write in the first 6 words in Verse 22?

Until the Ancient of Days [[[came]]]

And gave revenge to others. Read the whole verse next time.
 

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The KJV is far more accurate:

Dan 7:22 Until the Ancient of days came, and judgment was given to the saints of the most High; and the time came that the saints possessed the kingdom.