How the Pre-Trib Rapture Became Popular in the Modern Church

[Charlie24]

Yes, in the post-trib view, but not in the pre-trib view. Here is how it works in the pre-trib view.

The translation to immortals that Paul spoke of doesn't take place in Rev. 20 in the pre-trib view.

It is the rapture, before the tribulation begins.

That would mean the resurrection in Rev. 20 is only for those who died in Christ during the tribulation.

This means those saved who survived the tribulation will enter into the 1000 year reign as we see in Matt. 25:31-46

In Rev. 20 when John is explaining the resurrection at the end of the tribulation, he said that he seen the souls of those beheaded who gave their lives for Christ and did not take the mark of the beast.

The post-trib view assumes the the saints who have died from the beginning of time to that point are included in the resurrection John is speaking of, which would mean those who were alive and saved when the tribulation begins would go through the tribulation.

That is not true! Paul's rapture is all that group and John's resurrection is only those who died in Christ during the tribulation.

As I said, this is 2 resurrections of the saved and allows the repopulation of earth during the 1000 year reign.

It's difficult to grasp at first I know, but you need to understand this so you will know where we are coming from.

 

[Charlie24]

$1,000 Reward for the LOST pre-trib rapture Scripture that ran away from home and nobody can find.

Apparently, the High Priest placed His Hands on this pre-trib goat and sent it out into the wilderness,
for it never came back.

$2000 reward for one resurrection repopulating the earth during the tribulation! It takes two, my friend!

 

[Charlie24]

$2000 reward for one resurrection repopulating the earth during the tribulation! It takes two, my friend!

I think I need the take a break from this, I can't get anything right! My brain and typing are not in sync.

Of course it's not the "tribulation" above, it's the 1000 year reign.

 

[DavidTree]

I didn't say that.

I pointed out the Scripture which states, "and HE SHALL SEND His angels... and THEY shall gather..." (in this Matt24 context).

I never once alluded to any such idea that "the angels operate of their own accord". Please read carefully. ; ]

Since the Angels were created

$2000 reward for one resurrection repopulating the earth during the tribulation! It takes two, my friend!

Children's Bible 101: Matthew 22:29-30
Jesus answered and said to them, “You are mistaken, not knowing the Scriptures nor the power of God.
For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels of God in heaven."

Children's Bible 102: Matthew 24:22
And unless those days were shortened, no flesh would be saved; but for the elect’s sake those days will be shortened.

Children's Bible 103: Isaiah 46:10
I make known the end from the beginning, from ancient times, what is still to come.
I say, ‘My purpose will stand, and I will do all that I please.’

 

[Charlie24]

Since the Angels were created


Children's Bible 101: Matthew 22:29-30
Jesus answered and said to them, “You are mistaken, not knowing the Scriptures nor the power of God.
For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels of God in heaven."

Children's Bible 102: Matthew 24:22
And unless those days were shortened, no flesh would be saved; but for the elect’s sake those days will be shortened.

Children's Bible 103: Isaiah 46:10
I make known the end from the beginning, from ancient times, what is still to come.
I say, ‘My purpose will stand, and I will do all that I please.’

Is this another deflection, David?

 

[Charlie24]

I think I need the take a break from this, I can't get anything right! My brain and typing are not in sync.

Of course it's not the "tribulation" above, it's the 1000 year reign.

David, the Lord told me a few minutes ago that I have repeated myself so many times on this thread that I'm no longer paying attention to what I'm saying. I must be bored, I guess.

 

[DavidTree]

I didn't say that.

I pointed out the Scripture which states, "and HE SHALL SEND His angels... and THEY shall gather..." (in this Matt24 context).

I never once alluded to any such idea that "the angels operate of their own accord". Please read carefully. ; ]

Good Morning,

We all know HE shall send His angels AND it is His gathering so IF i choose to abbreviate to get the point across, and that point/emphasis glorifies the LORD, then i am giving you the benefit of the doubt that you would see that.

i would not of done that with a new Believer in Christ.

So, take it as a compliment.

 

[DavidTree]

Is this another deflection, David?

Truth is what we are to be seeking, not a false religion trust fund.

 

[Charlie24]

Truth is what we are to be seeking, not a false religion trust fund.

I don't believe that David! I haven't seen a single post-tribber who yet understand the pre-trib view!

 

[1ofthem]

They were born during the 1000 years reign! And the post-trib view does not allow this to happen!

There will be untold millions born during that 1000 years, not all of them will be believers.

They are the ones Satan will gather together at the end of the 1000 years.

Those who were alive and saved from the Great Tribulation. They will enter the 1000 years.

You see, the earth cannot repopulate without 2 resurrections taking place.

Where is this mentioned in the scriptures?

 

[Charlie24]

Where is this mentioned in the scriptures?

For the 10th or 12th time, read Matt. 25:31-46.

 

[1ofthem]

For the 10th or 12th time, read Matt. 25:31-46.

How sweet of you?

How about you do me a favor and point out any verse there that says anything about a repopulation of the earth?

All, I'm seeing is judgement of the sheep and the goats.... some are sentenced to everlasting fire and the others are blessed with everlasting life.

So, I mean, really where is there anything written about a repopulation of the earth after the Great Tribulation, resurrection and rapture.

If there aren't any verses on that, then that means you are making all of that up and adding to the scriptures.

 

[1ofthem]

David, the Lord told me a few minutes ago that I have repeated myself so many times on this thread that I'm no longer paying attention to what I'm saying. I must be bored, I guess.

Also, I'm just going to say... the attitude you displayed in your reply to me was definitely not from the Lord.

So, the real problem may be that your theory is not supported by scripture, full of holes, and doesn't hold any water.

Sounds to me that you should start paying more attention to what you are saying and try to accurately reference it with the Bible.

If you can't do that, then all you have is a fairy-tale made-up story on your hands.

 

[DavidTree]

I don't believe that David! I haven't seen a single post-tribber who yet understand the pre-trib view!

YES Dear Brother in Christ, i fully agree with you = you have not seen

 

[Charlie24]

How sweet of you?

How about you do me a favor and point out any verse there that says anything about a repopulation of the earth?

All, I'm seeing is judgement of the sheep and the goats.... some are sentenced to everlasting fire and the others are blessed with everlasting life.

So, I mean, really where is there anything written about a repopulation of the earth after the Great Tribulation, resurrection and rapture.

If there aren't any verses on that, then that means you are making all of that up and adding to the scriptures.

I would ask you where do you see anything whatsoever of the church going through the tribulation as the post-trib view declares?

In the pre-trib view it is evident that the population of earth will be massively reduced! In order for the scripture to be true, the population being at the end of the 1000 years "the number who is the sand of the sea" there must be repopulation.

 

[Charlie24]

YES Dear Brother in Christ, i fully agree with you = you have not seen

Another deflection! You're on a roll, David.

 

[DavidTree]

Another deflection! You're on a roll, David.

Deflection or Defection
take your pick
either one the Holy Spirit will kick
HS7 is man's only Friend
For the King of Heaven
surely did Send
for us to know truth
like our Sister Ruth
who married the Man of the Harvest
for us to work in and to Trust

 

[Charlie24]

Also, I'm just going to say... the attitude you displayed in your reply to me was definitely not from the Lord.

So, the real problem may be that your theory is not supported by scripture, full of holes, and doesn't hold any water.

Sounds to me that you should start paying more attention to what you are saying and try to accurately reference it with the Bible.

If you can't do that, then all you have is a fairy-tale made-up story on your hands.

Oh, we're going to get an attitude now, lol.

 

[Charlie24]

Deflection or Defection
take your pick
either one the Holy Spirit will kick
HS7 is man's only Friend
For the King of Heaven
surely did Send
for us to know truth
like our Sister Ruth
who married the Man of the Harvest
for us to work in and to Trust

Definition of deflection
1 : a turning aside or off course : deviation. 2 : the departure of an indicator or pointer from the zero reading on the scale of an instrument.

 

[1ofthem]

For the 10th or 12th time, read Matt. 25:31-46.

You may want to start at the beginning of the Great Tribulation and understand that correctly before you proceed to making up a fairy tale about repopulating of the earth in a MK.

If you go out looking for a pre-trib rapture, then you may be one that goes looking for him in the desert or some secret chamber.

When Jesus comes back it won't be in secret. He's going to split the eastern sky and be seen of all. No pre-trib rapture. It's not there!