How the Pre-Trib Rapture Became Popular in the Modern Church

[TheDivineWatermark]

And the passage from Matthew 24 is unrelated to the thousand years or who enters into it.

Are you really speaking of "Matthew 24" here? (or was that a typo perhaps?)

Either way (and for the readers), yes, Matthew 24 ALSO covers that same Subject.

Example: Matthew 24:43-51 is parallel to Luke 12:36-37,38,40,42-44,45-48... about that very thing ("when he will RETURN FROM the wedding"... THEN the meal [G347; <--and this word used elsewhere to speak of the earthly MK age, too]).



Matt24:33's "IT" is speaking of that very thing related to this: His Second Coming to the earth, and who will ENTER the earthly MK age which commences following this point.



If you were referring to Matt25:31-46, instead, well that's been discussed... so I won't address that in this post.

 

[Charlie24]

Which is what happens AFTER the thousand years has ended.



No, it means only the saved enter eternity.

No, it plainly says in Matt. 25:31

"When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:"

There can be no mistake this is at the Second Coming when Christ takes His throne to begin the 1000 year reign.

I'm not going to keep arguing this with you! The post-trib view is in serious error, but I don't expect any of you to even admit it!

 

[TheDivineWatermark]

No, it plainly says in Matt. 25:31

"When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:"

There can be no mistake this is at the Second Coming when Christ takes His throne to begin the 1000 year reign.

Right.

Which verse ^ parallels what is stated in Matthew 19:28 (which corresponds also with Lk22:30); these are important to note.


[none ^ are "GWTj" contexts, or what follows...]

 

[ewq1938]

No, it plainly says in Matt. 25:31

"When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:"

There can be no mistake this is at the Second Coming when Christ takes His throne to begin the 1000 year reign.

I'm not going to keep arguing this with you! The post-trib view is in serious error, but I don't expect any of you to even admit it!

The GWTJ and lake of fire punishment is NOT at the second coming.

 

[ewq1938]

Are you really speaking of "Matthew 24" here? (or was that a typo perhaps?)

Read Matt. 24:31-46 and you will see that is not true!

Matt. 25:31-46, I have posted it at least 6 times and when someone is willing to read it I get the chapter wrong!

It's Matt. 25:31-46

It was Charlie that mentioned chp 24 when he meant 25.

 

[Charlie24]

Which is what happens AFTER the thousand years has ended.



No, it means only the saved enter eternity.

No it's not! At the end of the millennium Satan is loosed from prison and gathers all the unsaved together and they come to Jerusalem and try to make war, but fire comes down out of heaven and destroys them.

 

[ewq1938]

No it's not! At the end of the millennium Satan is loosed from prison and gathers all the unsaved together and they come to Jerusalem and try to make war, but fire comes down out of heaven and destroys them.

And where did those unsaved come from if all unsaved were put in fire at the second coming??

 

[ewq1938]

Meaning only the saved will enter into the 1000 year reign.

No it's not! At the end of the millennium Satan is loosed from prison and gathers all the unsaved together and they come to Jerusalem and try to make war, but fire comes down out of heaven and destroys them.

 

[Charlie24]

And where did those unsaved come from if all unsaved were put in fire at the second coming??

They were born during the 1000 years reign! And the post-trib view does not allow this to happen!

 

[ewq1938]

They were born during the 1000 years reign! And the post-trib view does not allow this to happen!

What you have presented is a thousand years only populated by the saved, those resurrected from the dead and those changed which means they are all immortals. Immortals cannot have children. The only way for there to be such a large population of the unsaved after the thousand years is that they entered the thousand years.

 

[Charlie24]

What you have presented is a thousand years only populated by the saved, those resurrected from the dead and those changed which means they are all immortals. Immortals cannot have children. The only way for there to be such a large population of the unsaved after the thousand years is that they entered the thousand years.

There will be untold millions born during that 1000 years, not all of them will be believers.

They are the ones Satan will gather together at the end of the 1000 years.

 

[Nehemiah6]

There can be no mistake this is at the Second Coming when Christ takes His throne to begin the 1000 year reign.

Correct. Revelation chapter 20 follows chapter 19 in chronological sequence. But many details between the end of 19:21 and 20:1 are not given here. For those details we need to go to other Scriptures. And even then what we get is broad strokes, since God has reserved many details for Himself. Therefore speculation is uncalled for.

But there is no question whatsoever that following the Second Coming of Christ, the Millennial reign of Christ begins on earth with Satan and his minions locked up during that time. Then following the Millennium we see the Great White Throne Judgment.

 

[ewq1938]

There will be untold millions born during that 1000 years, not all of them will be believers.

And who exactly is getting pregnant??

 

[Charlie24]

It's past 1:30 am here, time for Charlie to hit the sack.

 

[Charlie24]

And who exactly is getting pregnant??

Those who were alive and saved from the Great Tribulation. They will enter the 1000 years.

You see, the earth cannot repopulate without 2 resurrections taking place.

 

[Charlie24]

Those who were alive and saved from the Great Tribulation. They will enter the 1000 years.

You see, the earth cannot repopulate without 2 resurrections taking place.

Let's pick it up tomorrow. I'm dead tired!

 

[ewq1938]

Those who were alive and saved from the Great Tribulation. They will enter the 1000 years.

Aren't they changed into immortals before the thousand years?

 

[ewq1938]

Let's pick it up tomorrow. I'm dead tired!

You are keeping yourself up. Just go to bed already. It's much earlier where I am.

 

[Charlie24]

Aren't they changed into immortals before the thousand years?

Yes, in the post-trib view, but not in the pre-trib view. Here is how it works in the pre-trib view.

The translation to immortals that Paul spoke of doesn't take place in Rev. 20 in the pre-trib view.

It is the rapture, before the tribulation begins.

That would mean the resurrection in Rev. 20 is only for those who died in Christ during the tribulation.

This means those saved who survived the tribulation will enter into the 1000 year reign as we see in Matt. 25:31-46

 

[DavidTree]

And it happens together before the tribulation begins!

$1,000 Reward for the LOST pre-trib rapture Scripture that ran away from home and nobody can find.

Apparently, the High Priest placed His Hands on this pre-trib goat and sent it out into the wilderness,
for it never came back.