How the Pre-Trib Rapture Became Popular in the Modern Church
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This is completely wrong as there is the word 'and' that directly connects to the gathering together to Christ.
TRUTH 101 - There cannot be a gathering together unto Christ until His Coming.
The Apostle Paul is reminding the Church of what he told/wrote to them in 1 Thess 4:13-18
Brothers, we do not want you to be uninformed about those who sleep in death, so that you will not grieve like the rest, who are without hope. For since we believe that Jesus died and rose again, we also believe that God will bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in Him.
By the word of the Lord, we declare to you that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who have fallen asleep.
For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a loud command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will be the first to rise.
After that, we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will always be with the Lord.
TRUTH 101 - There cannot be a gathering together unto Christ until His Coming.
The Apostle Paul is reminding the Church of what he told/wrote to them in 1 Thess 4:13-18
Brothers, we do not want you to be uninformed about those who sleep in death, so that you will not grieve like the rest, who are without hope. For since we believe that Jesus died and rose again, we also believe that God will bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in Him.
By the word of the Lord, we declare to you that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who have fallen asleep.
For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a loud command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will be the first to rise.
After that, we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will always be with the Lord.
Yes he did:
2Th 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, (the rapture)
2Th 2:2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, (the day of the rapture) except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
You are disagreeing with straight forward Scripture that needs no interpretation.
You called the Lord, the Holy Spirit and the Apostles "false witnesses" = your Post #3,929
You have not demonstrated any form of conducive self evaluation of your pre-trib against that which is written.
When studying Scripture, everyone must allow Scripture to correct our position when there is clear contradiction.
The theory of pre-trib is in clear contradiction of the exact words of the Lord, the Apostles and the Prophets.
You called the Lord, the Holy Spirit and the Apostles "false witnesses" = your Post #3,929
You have not demonstrated any form of conducive self evaluation of your pre-trib against that which is written.
When studying Scripture, everyone must allow Scripture to correct our position when there is clear contradiction.
The theory of pre-trib is in clear contradiction of the exact words of the Lord, the Apostles and the Prophets.
That is your second-level supposition based on your first-level assumption that the 'falling away' means "the church is taken away"...
You did not arrive at that conclusion; rather, you started with it and wrapped everything around it. (made everything else conform to it)
It is a very common practice among 'pre-trib' folks.
To give the benefit of the doubt would be to say that most of them do not [even] realize that they are doing it.
You did not arrive at that conclusion; rather, you started with it and wrapped everything around it. (made everything else conform to it)
It is a very common practice among 'pre-trib' folks.
To give the benefit of the doubt would be to say that most of them do not [even] realize that they are doing it.
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