Question: What are the vaccine hesitant looking for to convince them the vaccine is safe?

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I have given up on the radical antivaxers here. It is a waste of time to explain anything to them.

For anyone who is on the vaccination fence, here is our (wife and I, 79 and 80 years old) story.

We were vaccinated at the end of January and completed the series on February 10. We had no significant side effects. At the time we were vaccinated we received a sheet of paper with things to be aware of. On that paper was a statement that immunity was probably about 6 months.

In August we attended a funeral of a dear friend. We did not wear a mask, nor did we social distance. Three days after the funeral, we found out that 3 families there had covid19 delta.

August 29, my wife became very ill, and she was transported to the ER. She was tested for all sorts of things, including covid19. She had a severe UTI, and was positive for covid19. The ER treated the UTI with antibiotics and prednisone and planned to admit her over night. There were no beds available so the placed her in the last of the make shift rooms that they had made for emergency room overflow. Next morning, she was feeling much better and our doctor told us that she would be better off at home. I tested negative for covid19 so we went home with medication for her UTI and instructions to call the doctor if she got worse. I was to get a covid19 test if I started to get a fever. September 2, I began to run a fever, and tested positive.

My wife was achy all over, and ran a fever for a week. My wife has taken HCQ for several years for her RA. It didn't prevent her covid19. Her vaccination was seven months past. It didn't prevent her covid19. However, her case was much milder than many of our young friends'. Our doctor told her that had she not had the vaccination, she would not have survived.

I had a rough weekend, and received an antibody infusion. Within 12 hours, I was beginning to feel better, and fully recovered in a couple of days. Without the vaccination, I probably would not be here today. Instead, I spent 10 days in quarantine.

Our doctor told us that, even though we have had covid19, we should get a booster shot in December.
Everyone has an opinion , the main ingredient of the vaccine is graphene oxide I would say do a little browsing on search engines. There is a conspiracy and it is rather diabolical. But I don't need to say anything else. I got both shots and did so before I knew all the facts . I have jab remorse 4 sure
 
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I'm an anti-vaxer now . Fair enough. Don't get a booster , friend. It's on you I look forward to giving an account for warning people people are dying from the vaccine that is the least of my worries
 

PennEd

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I have given up on the radical antivaxers here. It is a waste of time to explain anything to them.

For anyone who is on the vaccination fence, here is our (wife and I, 79 and 80 years old) story.

We were vaccinated at the end of January and completed the series on February 10. We had no significant side effects. At the time we were vaccinated we received a sheet of paper with things to be aware of. On that paper was a statement that immunity was probably about 6 months.

In August we attended a funeral of a dear friend. We did not wear a mask, nor did we social distance. Three days after the funeral, we found out that 3 families there had covid19 delta.

August 29, my wife became very ill, and she was transported to the ER. She was tested for all sorts of things, including covid19. She had a severe UTI, and was positive for covid19. The ER treated the UTI with antibiotics and prednisone and planned to admit her over night. There were no beds available so the placed her in the last of the make shift rooms that they had made for emergency room overflow. Next morning, she was feeling much better and our doctor told us that she would be better off at home. I tested negative for covid19 so we went home with medication for her UTI and instructions to call the doctor if she got worse. I was to get a covid19 test if I started to get a fever. September 2, I began to run a fever, and tested positive.

My wife was achy all over, and ran a fever for a week. My wife has taken HCQ for several years for her RA. It didn't prevent her covid19. Her vaccination was seven months past. It didn't prevent her covid19. However, her case was much milder than many of our young friends'. Our doctor told her that had she not had the vaccination, she would not have survived.

I had a rough weekend, and received an antibody infusion. Within 12 hours, I was beginning to feel better, and fully recovered in a couple of days. Without the vaccination, I probably would not be here today. Instead, I spent 10 days in quarantine.

Our doctor told us that, even though we have had covid19, we should get a booster shot in December.
Glad you and your wife are apparently ok..

Insane to be thankful you didn’t die from a disease you were supposedly vaccinated against. I can’t even imagine the mental gymnastics one must go through to arrive at that mentality.

Unfortunately, vast multitudes, including MANY young, didn’t get the vaccine, then get sick, and can claim the vaccine actually helped them. Like this young lady. Who died not from virus, but the vaccine:

Healthy young NCAA volleyball player dies suddenly from Aneurysm…

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Healthy young people almost never just keel over.

NC A&T new guidelines: Faculty, staff, students must be vaccinated and show proof
 

ZNP

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Been scrabbling to learn how to detox from the Vax. Since I screwed up and got it . Main ingredient other than the spike protein is Graphene Oxide a heavy metal which reacts to electromagnetism . Pile of it starts to activate and morph when you put an IPhone next to it. Looking at detox protocols in a serious fashion. Basically Magnetizes you . 5G and we thought it was for a faster internet. Folks will be dropping dead in bigger numbers.
You can block 5G with tin foil, hence the term "tin foil hatters". However, they sell normal looking hats with a metal lining that blocks the 5G.

It would be a good idea to know how far you are from a tower.

However, the reason for the boosters every 3 months is that the body will naturally flush the stuff out of your system.
 
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You can block 5G with tin foil, hence the term "tin foil hatters". However, they sell normal looking hats with a metal lining that blocks the 5G.

It would be a good idea to know how far you are from a tower.

However, the reason for the boosters every 3 months is that the body will naturally flush the stuff out of your system.
Every see a video of graphene oxide reacting to electromagnetism ?

It looks like an octopus trying to get back in its hole. You don't want this stuff anywhere in your body especially around a 5G tower.
 
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I told several family members that I would prefer to be more careful and wait for one or two years before getting the vaccine. They asked what would convince me it was safe or not safe.

1. I want to see if the birth rates in countries that have a high vaccination rate drops significantly.

2. I want to see if a significant number of athletes have to leave the sport due to myocarditis or some other issue.

3. I want to see if the death rate among the vaccinated climbs significantly compared to the unvaccinated.

These are three things they really cannot hide. They can provide alternate explanations and they can refuse to show you the data for vaccinated compared to unvaccinated, but there are ways to double check. There are countries like Israel that have a very high vaccination rate and there are countries like some countries in Africa which have a very low vaccination rate.

If I do not see 1, 2, or 3 a year from now it would go a long way to convincing me that the most pessimistic reports about this vaccine are not true. On the other hand if they are true I think we would definitely see 1, 2 and 3.
I am in a growing number who have jab remorse , caving in to the fear of getting covid. I resisted the hard sell for a flu shot for over 20 years . However it got pretty tedious, mask on mask off(karate kid) mask off , mask on mask off, with a CVS or a Walgreens often on both corners here in Tucson one day I said why not , a little more protection and not a large enough amount of mercury to worry about , eh ? Wrong should have done due diligence. First of all it isn't a plague in the sense of a virus or bacteria or anything like that. A spiked protein blended with toxic graphene oxide. When I realized a month later and my wife as well that I have been pretty foggy lately and it isn' t' just because of approaching 72. I got more information and researched a little bit. Post inoculation . Bad Idea. Anyway to make a long story longer. I watched a video of a guy receiving a phone on call on his iPhone and setting it down next to a pile of graphene oxide ( looks like black granules) the pile reacted ( activated) due to the electromagnetism from the iPhone it morphed and moved resembling an octopus trying to get back to its hole. Am I ready for 5G ?. No . Hopefully I will be , I am scrabbling to research every anti oxidant and nutritional supplement to take to flush this spiked protein out of my system. For all you tin foil hatters , and you thought 5 G was for a faster internet. Wait til you see what they put in the boosters for you . Don't cave to the propaganda. Learn from me do your due diligence. Graphene Oxide. Google . Youtube. Agenda 21 de-population. etc.
 

ZNP

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Every see a video of graphene oxide reacting to electromagnetism ?

It looks like an octopus trying to get back in its hole. You don't want this stuff anywhere in your body especially around a 5G tower.
This may explain some of the deaths, those people may have been near a tower.
 

GaryA

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I am in a growing number who have jab remorse , caving in to the fear of getting covid. I resisted the hard sell for a flu shot for over 20 years . However it got pretty tedious, mask on mask off(karate kid) mask off , mask on mask off, with a CVS or a Walgreens often on both corners here in Tucson one day I said why not , a little more protection and not a large enough amount of mercury to worry about , eh ? Wrong should have done due diligence. First of all it isn't a plague in the sense of a virus or bacteria or anything like that. A spiked protein blended with toxic graphene oxide. When I realized a month later and my wife as well that I have been pretty foggy lately and it isn' t' just because of approaching 72. I got more information and researched a little bit. Post inoculation . Bad Idea. Anyway to make a long story longer. I watched a video of a guy receiving a phone on call on his iPhone and setting it down next to a pile of graphene oxide ( looks like black granules) the pile reacted ( activated) due to the electromagnetism from the iPhone it morphed and moved resembling an octopus trying to get back to its hole. Am I ready for 5G ?. No . Hopefully I will be , I am scrabbling to research every anti oxidant and nutritional supplement to take to flush this spiked protein out of my system. For all you tin foil hatters , and you thought 5 G was for a faster internet. Wait til you see what they put in the boosters for you . Don't cave to the propaganda. Learn from me do your due diligence. Graphene Oxide. Google . Youtube. Agenda 21 de-population. etc.
Thank you for giving a testimony of your experience.