Vaccination?

[Aidan1]

It has successfully treated hundreds of thousands with no side effects. It was successful for me, a cancer transplant patient, my family, and dozens of other families I know personally. Why have many governments suppressed these meds? To push the shots.

Well, there is another side, too. Hope you read the article and think over it.
https://time.com/6092368/americas-frontline-doctors-covid-19-misinformation/

 

[John146]

Well, there is another side, too. Hope you read the article and think over it.
https://time.com/6092368/americas-frontline-doctors-covid-19-misinformation/

Totally biased liberal article. I have firsthand testifies from dozens of families plus a local doctor who has successfully treated over 3,000 COVID patients.

 

[Duckybill]

What is YOUR definition of a Nazi, if it doesn’t include Gestapo stopping people in the streets and stores demanding “papers”?

How about a chip in everyone's right hand with medical records and proof of vaccination?

Revelation 13:16-17 (KJV)
16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: 17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

 

[seed_time_harvest]

How about a chip in everyone's right hand with medical records and proof of vaccination?

Revelation 13:16-17 (KJV)
16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: 17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

That's what you call pushing fear for no reason,why?

 

[Duckybill]

That's what you call pushing fear for no reason,why?

Actually that's "what you call" getting your attention. It works. All who accept the Mark will burn in Hell "forever and ever".

 

[Gideon300]

speaking for myself, there is not one thing I have posted with regards to the covid 'vaccine' that I posted without knowing the source

a good number were directly from the drug companies...why do you and others overlook what they have to say? it's pretty revealing

at any rate, it is useless to post all these personal notations because you are not even in this country...right? I don't post all kinds of anecdotal things about Australia because it's different when you are actually living wherever it is you are posting about

I am originally from Canada, for example, and I know for a fact a person up there is not going to get all the information you get down here...barring research on the net (which I do)

it is not right to castigate Christians in general that do not agree with your viewpoint. I have had some conflict in this thread with at least 2 individuals but I would not think either one of them represent a majority in their responses as both get way too personal and attack the person rather than address the subject matter

so please, I certainly research and have posted quite a bit of material from sites of the drug pushers companies themselves, so it might be good to stop painting with such a broad brush

Pfizer especially, has a horrendous record when it comes to being honest and have literally paid off people to hide bad results...that is actually happening right now

you will see, down the road, that these so called vaccines are no miracle at all and now it seems boosters every 6 months? there is no way that is good for your body

People are welcome to disagree. I will not accept fake news as fact, lies as truth, misinformation and slander as being acceptable for Christians. Vaccines generally work the same on all races in all countries. Nothing made by humans is perfect. Something like 90% of Australians have been vaccinated. The hospital burden is reducing and the death rate in decline. Exactly the opposite to the expectations of anti vaxxers. I'm one of the 90%. I'm 70, so I'm high risk if I catch COVID. I also have had a heart problem and blood pressure higher than it should be. So it was a big decision for me to get the vaccination. I read as much as I could and I read the pro-con (mostly con) arguments on this forum.

I am against mandatory vaccination. However, the anti vax hysteria troubles me. Christians should love the truth. I don't see much of that in this debate.

 

[Gideon300]

one more thing though

the term 'anti-vaxxer' is hardly appropriate. most of us have probably had quite a few ACTUAL vaccines...I had 'em all growing up and another one (trifecta) to live in the US and it actually affected my badly for almost 3 years...hives and terrible itching. thank God I am mostly over it...and this is a vaccine developed by that great philanthropist Gates, who developed it in Africa. I will leave it to your imagination as to why Africa was the country in which that occured

so, a refusal of this vial of God knows what, does not make one an anti-vaxxer. this is a name coined as a dismissal of those who had freedom to choose and the nerve to actually do so

maybe ask why so many that did accept this vaccine now regret having done so. oh. not in your country? well it certainly is an ongoing issue here

I can assure you that far more people regret catching COVID here than regret having the vaccine.

 

[seed_time_harvest]

Actually that's "what you call" getting your attention. It works. All who accept the Mark will burn in Hell "forever and ever".

What does getting a shot In your shoulder have to do with getting the mark on/In your hand.IMO that's just preaching fear.

 

[Duckybill]

What does getting a shot In your shoulder have to do with getting the mark on/In your hand.IMO that's just preaching fear.

The media / Satan is programming you to accept the Mark.

 

[Aidan1]

The media / Satan is programming you to accept the Mark.

Nobody, also not Satan can programing a child of God to worship him. Or dont you believe in Gods power? Read Romans 8.
This vaccine has nothing to do with the mark of the beast. Thats Paranoia.

 

[Aidan1]

Totally biased liberal article. I have firsthand testifies from dozens of families plus a local doctor who has successfully treated over 3,000 COVID patients.

Of course, everything what is against your believe is liberal and biased.
You dont record the patients which have sideeffects from your frontline meds. This is biased, too.

 

[Duckybill]

Nobody, also not Satan can programing a child of God to worship him. Or dont you believe in Gods power? Read Romans 8.
This vaccine has nothing to do with the mark of the beast. Thats Paranoia.

You've been programmed by the Satanic media.

 

[Aidan1]

You've been programmed by the Satanic media.

No, i am a child of the creator of this world!

 

[mailmandan]

Pandemic Authoritarianism: Greece to Ban Unvaxed From Indoor Spaces

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/20...ism-greece-to-ban-unvaxed-from-indoor-spaces/

 

[PennEd]

European Medicines Agency Data Shows 1,163,356 Adverse Drug Reactions and 30,551 Fatalities by COVID-19 Vaccinations


The official European Union database of suspected drug reaction website is now reporting 30,551 fatalities and 1,163,356 adverse drug reactions from COVID vaccines Pfizer, Moderna, Johnson & Johnson, and AztraZeneca through November 13, 2021 based on the data submitted to its system.
According to European Medicines Agency, an official website of the European Union, the data of adverse reaction from COVID-19 vaccines were posted in ADRreports.eu portal that “allows users to view the total number of individual suspected side effect reports (also known as Individual Case Safety Reports, or ICSRs).”

All the data shown in the website and individual case report forms were taken from EudraVigilance, “a system designed for collecting reports of suspected side effects, used for evaluating the benefits and risks of medicines during their development and monitoring their safety following their authorization in the European Economic Area (EEA).”
The information were submitted electronically to EudraVigilance by “national medicines regulatory authorities and by pharmaceutical companies that hold marketing authorisations (licences) for the medicines.”

From ADRreports website:

• Pharmaceutical companies that hold the marketing authorisation of a medicine, as well as medicines regulatory authorities in the EEA, are legally required to submit reports of suspected side effects to EudraVigilance. This includes reports received from healthcare professionals and patients. This excludes non-serious side effects occurring outside the EEA.
• The web report does not include reports from studies (e.g. clinical trial, non-interventional study) or other types of reports (i.e. only spontaneous reports).
• A side effect is classified as ‘serious’ if it (i) results in death, (ii) is life-threatening, (iii) requires hospitalisation or prolongation of existing hospitalisation, (iv) results in persistent or significant disability/incapacity (as per reporter’s opinion), (v) is a congenital anomaly/birth defect, or (vi) results in some other medically important conditions.

 

[Aidan1]

No, i am a child of the creator of this world!

Shittim, you not agree that I am a child of God Almighty, the creator of this world?
I am glad that my life and future is in the hand of my heavenly father and not in the hand of people or somewhere else.

 

[PennEd]

A report from Health Impact News mentioned that the database maintained at EudraVigilance is only for countries in Europe who are part of the European Union (EU), which comprises 27 countries. That means, adverse reaction from the COVID vaccines would be much higher if we include all countries in Europe.
Here is the summary of data through November 13, 2021.
Total reactions for the mRNA vaccine Tozinameran (code BNT162b2, Comirnaty) from BioNTech/ Pfizer: 14,303 fatalities and 562,213 cases of adverse reaction to 11/13/2021 as identified in EudraVigilance:

• Blood and lymphatic system disorders include 200 fatalities and 12,412 not recovered
• Cardiac disorders include 2,095 fatalities and 10,336 not recovered
• Congenital, familial and genetic disorders include 32 fatalities and 125 not recovered
• Ear and labyrinth disorders include 10 fatalities and 7,561 not recovered
• Endocrine disorders include 5 fatalitiesand 512 not recovered
• Eye disorders include 31 fatalities and 6,636 not recovered
• Gastrointestinal disorders include 573 fatalities and 25,520 not recovered
• General disorders and administration site conditions include 4,057 fatalities and 82,029 not recovered
• Hepatobiliary disorders include 73 fatalities and 334 not recovered
• Immune system disorders include 74 fatalities and 1,911 not recovered
• Infections and infestations include 1,545 fatalities and 11,502 not recovered
• Injury, poisoning and procedural complications include 235 fatalities and 1,915 not recovered
• Investigations include 440 fatalities and 7,080 not recovered
• Metabolism and nutrition disorders include 247 fatalities and 2,249 not recovered
• Musculoskeletal and connective tissue disorders include 177 fatalities and 45,626 not recovered
• Neoplasms benign, malignant and unspecified (incl cysts and polyps) include 111 fatalities and 369 not recovered
• Nervous system disorders include 1,532 fatalities and 60,907 not recovered
• Pregnancy, puerperium and perinatal conditions include 55 fatalities and 253 not recovered
• Product issues include 2 fatalities and 26 not recovered
• Psychiatric disorders include 172 fatalities and 6,633 not recovered
• Renal and urinary disorders include 223 fatalities and 1,213 not recovered
• Reproductive system and breast disorders include 5 fatalities and 19,918 not recovered
• Respiratory, thoracic and mediastinal disorders include 1,599 fatalities and 15,449 not recovered
• Skin and subcutaneous tissue disorders include 123 fatalities and 17,883 not recovered
• Social circumstances include 19 fatalities and 888 not recovered
• Surgical and medical procedures include 55 fatalities and 237 not recovered
• Vascular disorders include 613 fatalitiesand 8,618 not recovered

Total reactions for the mRNA vaccine mRNA-1273(CX-024414) from Moderna: 8,385 fatalities and 155,793 adverse reaction to 11/13/2021:

• Blood and lymphatic system disorders incl. 94 fatalities and 2,977 not recovered
• Cardiac disorders incl. 895 fatalities and 3,504 not recovered
• Congenital, familial and genetic disorders incl. 6 fatalities and 52 not recovered
• Ear and labyrinth disorders incl. 2 fatalities and 2,401 not recovered
• Endocrine disorders incl. 3 fatalities and 160 not recovered
• Eye disorders incl. 29 fatalities and 2,197 not recovered
• Gastrointestinal disorders incl. 324 fatalities and 7,467 not recovered
• General disorders and administration site conditions incl. 2,944 fatalities and 31,159 not recovered
• Hepatobiliary disorders incl. 40 fatalitiesand 192 not recovered
• Immune system disorders incl. 15 fatalities and 650 not recovered
• Infections and infestations incl. 769 fatalities and 3,864 not recovered
• Injury, poisoning and procedural complications incl. 156 fatalities and 1,201 not recovered
• Investigations incl. 136 fatalities and 1,883 not recovered
• Metabolism and nutrition disorders incl. 204 fatalities and 1,048 not recovered
• Musculoskeletal and connective tissue disorders incl. 170 fatalities and 14,145 not recovered
• Neoplasms benign, malignant and unspecified (incl cysts and polyps) incl. 65 fatalities and 193 not recovered
• Nervous system disorders incl. 810 fatalities and 18,937 not recovered
• Pregnancy, puerperium and perinatal conditions incl. 7 fatalities and 121 not recovered
• Product issues incl. 2 fatalities and 5 not recovered
• Psychiatric disorders incl. 140 fatalitiesand 2,118 not recovered
• Renal and urinary disorders incl. 164 fatalities and 587 not recovered
• Reproductive system and breast disorders incl. 7 fatalities and 3,554 not recovered
• Respiratory, thoracic and mediastinal disorders incl. 900 fatalities and 5,291 not recovered
• Skin and subcutaneous tissue disorders incl. 76 fatalities and 6,658 not recovered
• Social circumstances incl. 35 fatalitiesand 802 not recovered
• Surgical and medical procedures incl. 77 fatalities and 268 not recovered
• Vascular disorders incl. 315 fatalities and 2,788 not recovered

Total reactions for the COVID-19 vaccine JANSSEN (AD26.COV2.S) from Johnson & Johnson: 1,793 fatalities and 37,038 adverse reaction to 11/13/2021:

 

[shittim]

Thanks PennEd

 

[Nehemiah6]

I am against mandatory vaccination. However, the anti vax hysteria troubles me.

Really? What if those so-called vaccines had on their labels POISONS and the skull and crossbones? Would you say that banning them, shunning them, and exposing their dangers was "hysteria"?

But that is exactly what they are, and the stats from VAERS and Eudravigilance confirms this. And these stats are probably a fraction of the true numbers. So should Christians be silent while governments and public health agencies administer poisons and kill off people and maim them for life?

"WOE UNTO THEM THAT CALL GOOD EVIL, AND EVIL GOOD".

 

[Gideon300]

Really? What if those so-called vaccines had on their labels POISONS and the skull and crossbones? Would you say that banning them, shunning them, and exposing their dangers was "hysteria"?

But that is exactly what they are, and the stats from VAERS and Eudravigilance confirms this. And these stats are probably a fraction of the true numbers. So should Christians be silent while governments and public health agencies administer poisons and kill off people and maim them for life?

"WOE UNTO THEM THAT CALL GOOD EVIL, AND EVIL GOOD".

There is a very simple reason. Your claims are not true. Vaccines are not poison. Labels don't make things poisonous. Vaccines are saving lives, not taking them.