Are Christians to speak up when they see evil?

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saintrose

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Lame excuses. Both Christ and John the Baptist spoke out against sin and evil around them, and Christ drove the buyers and sellers out of the temple in Jerusalem twice. Since Christians are lights in the world, they must expose darkness whenever possible.
I thought those excuses were lame too. What's hard is then the believers who do speak out then incur all the grief while those such as my friend get to sit and watch TV and enjoy their ice cream and reap the benefits of the work of the doers. I just don't think God is going to hold us guiltless. Look at the world we're leaving to this next generation. These youth don't stand a chance.

They're teaching these kids perversion - it's being pushed by Hollyweird and is even in cartoons. A woman at our old church's daughter is a school psychologist and said that a lot of youth are coming to her with gender identity issues. That didn't just happen - that was planted in their minds.

I really fear for this next generation. If we don't all take up our cross and act it's going to be suffering upon suffering.
 

saintrose

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Judgement begins with the house of God. When the church gets its house in order, it will have the moral authority to say something to the world. Today I spoke to someone who listened often to a well known Christian who was found to have improper relationships with young women. He was shattered. Satan used the fall from grace of someone the man respected to undermine his faith. I believe I was able to help him and to confirm what other Christians have said to him. Just the same, how much better it would be if such encouragement was not necessary.

Christians need to wake up. We have all the power and authority of the Lord Jesus. He did not go around condemning the secular rulers. He took on the religious hypocrites who were fine outwardly but corrupt inwardly. He told Roman soldiers to be content with their wages, not to rebel and join the Jews in revolution. He commended the Roman Centurion as a man of faith. Lord Jesus did not demand that he quit his position as a leader in the occupying army.

The reason that nations become great is spiritual. Queen Victoria ruled over the greatest age of the British Empire. Britain really was great in those days. She declared it was due to the Christian heritage that Britain enjoyed and maintained. The USA also once had a true Christian foundation and built much upon that foundation. Look at it now. Every kind of evil is rampant, anyone who dares to oppose evil is shouted down, there is no free speech and little in the way of equality, liberty and true justice . Britain is headed towards being a Muslim nation. And that is simply because the church became complacent, tolerant of immorality and failed to engage in spiritual warfare.

It's not wrong to speak up on issues. Right now I have leaflets to deliver opposing gender reassignment surgery for children. Parents who counsel their children against it could go to prison for 10 years. Paedophiles get shorter sentences. Our government is utterly corrupt. But I have to acknowledge my failure. I was too taken up with federal issues and so neglected state issues. I won't make that mistake again. However, it would have been far better if the state had not become corrupt in the first place. One person can't change that. The church must rise up in resisting Satan, the true enemy of our souls.

God's judgement for now is very simple. He lets people do as they please. He does not need to intervene. He will at times send floods, earthquakes and such to get man's attention, or stop some great evil from occurring. But mostly the human race is quite capable of self inflicting wounds.

Romans 1 traces the decline of the human race. "Therefore God gave them over to the desires of their hearts." verse 24. How do we reverse this? I don't know that it is possible now. We are meant to be salt. Salt preserves what is there, it will not improve it. Even if nothing gets worse in our societies, we are still far from the Christian values that once set us apart. One thing is for sure: the status quo is unacceptable to God and should be to us. 2 Chronicles 7:14 should be on everyone's heart right now. Don't expect the world to change. It is under Satan's rule. We need the Lord to change us. Then just maybe the land will be healed.
I agree Gideon. The church is so compromised now that many don't teach the truth.

I'm so glad you have leaflets - look at what's happening to the children now. A woman from our old church's daughter is a school psychologist and she said all these young teens are coming to her with gender identity issues. You know that didn't just happen. Satan appears to be winning. I feel more uncomfortable here by the day.

Now they're saying they're trying to do away with bank accounts. It's just overwhelming what's being thrown at us. On top of that I noticed they're chemtrailing again. What are they spraying now?
 

Nehemiah6

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I just don't think God is going to hold us guiltless.
You can apply that to the Christians who have been defending the Scamdemic/Plandemic and the bogus vaccines which are killing and destroying people. Instead of rebuking the works and workers of darkness, they are siding with them and fighting Christians who present the truth and the facts.
 

JaumeJ

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You can apply that to the Christians who have been defending the Scamdemic/Plandemic and the bogus vaccines which are killing and destroying people. Instead of rebuking the works and workers of darkness, they are siding with them and fighting Christians who present the truth and the facts.
What are your credentials dissing the entire medical field? You may find a dozen quacks world/wide who are bonified doctors to agree with you, but the tru killers are those who refuse to do all possible to protect others fro themselves.

Do not say God is against the medical profession as some fabricated defense. My own experience is to wear the mask to protec others, andalso to be vaccinated. I have not had a flu shot since 1962, so what is the problem here. Oh, you heard online, right.
 

Nehemiah6

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What are your credentials dissing the entire medical field?
I happen to be a microbiologist who knows something about immunity, vaccines, and viruses. In addition to that, one does not need to be a qualified scientist to determine that this was a Scamdemic. Scientists, immunologists, medical doctors, and nurses who have not been scammed or compromised all agree:

1. Coronavirus was a man-made bioweapon released under a very definite conspiracy.

2. Very cheap and very effective remedies were sabotaged by the medical establishment.

3. The numbers of deaths reported for COVID were totally bogus (94-97% false).

4. The number of "cases" reported for COVID were totally bogus (99% false)

5. All the so-called vaccines for COVID were totally bogus, and killed hundreds of thousands, while maiming huge numbers which have not really been added up or reported.

6. Neither lockdowns, nor masking, nor distancing, nor wiping of hard surfaces had any impact on reducing infections.

If you wish to check all this out please do so., There is hard evidence to support all these conclusions.

Japan Abandons Vax Policy, Switches To Ivermectin, Ends COVID Craziness

"By far, however, the absolute superstar among foreign nations dealing with COVID is Japan. Japan has PULLED the vaccines and substituted Ivermectin – and in one month, wiped COVID out in that country!"
https://principia-scientific.com/ja...-switches-to-ivermectin-ends-covid-craziness/
 

saintrose

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You can apply that to the Christians who have been defending the Scamdemic/Plandemic and the bogus vaccines which are killing and destroying people. Instead of rebuking the works and workers of darkness, they are siding with them and fighting Christians who present the truth and the facts.
Amen. I tried warning friends from church and they turned on me and ended our friendship. I had no clue that 'christians' lacked so much discernment and couldn't see through it.

Look at the 'churches' in Texas vaccinating children. May God help them. It breaks my heart to think of young children who don't have a choice. Are we going to have mass deaths in children now?

I believe that God expects us to be the salt - as someone else pointed out. It does cost us - we may lose friends.
 

saintrose

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I happen to be a microbiologist who knows something about immunity, vaccines, and viruses. In addition to that, one does not need to be a qualified scientist to determine that this was a Scamdemic. Scientists, immunologists, medical doctors, and nurses who have not been scammed or compromised all agree:

1. Coronavirus was a man-made bioweapon released under a very definite conspiracy.

2. Very cheap and very effective remedies were sabotaged by the medical establishment.

3. The numbers of deaths reported for COVID were totally bogus (94-97% false).

4. The number of "cases" reported for COVID were totally bogus (99% false)

5. All the so-called vaccines for COVID were totally bogus, and killed hundreds of thousands, while maiming huge numbers which have not really been added up or reported.

6. Neither lockdowns, nor masking, nor distancing, nor wiping of hard surfaces had any impact on reducing infections.

If you wish to check all this out please do so., There is hard evidence to support all these conclusions.

Japan Abandons Vax Policy, Switches To Ivermectin, Ends COVID Craziness

"By far, however, the absolute superstar among foreign nations dealing with COVID is Japan. Japan has PULLED the vaccines and substituted Ivermectin – and in one month, wiped COVID out in that country!"
https://principia-scientific.com/ja...-switches-to-ivermectin-ends-covid-craziness/
We have a scientist in our family as well. So glad you see through the lies. I'm not a scientist but one doesn't need to be to see that vaccines were allegedly invented by the Jesuits - "the poisoned needle." There is so much online about the danger of vaccines. The high concentration of aluminum alone is frightening. They're spraying us with aluminum in the chemtrail program - I think that many have brains full of it.
 

JaumeJ

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This seems to be pure insanity gushing from hell. May God have mercy in Jesus Christ Yeshua's name, amen.
 

soberxp

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Unfortunately, in China, many people have no faith, but not including they have not read the Bible. Many people have read it and chose Antichrist. How can I describe such a thing?
 

JaumeJ

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Unfortunately, in China, many people have no faith, but not including they have not read the Bible. Many people have read it and chose Antichrist. How can I describe such a thing?
The Beast is not yet on the scene.. All will know when he is.

Until then pray for the salvation of the lsot and the spiritual stamina of the saved. In Jesus Yeshua, amen.
 

Duckybill

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You certainly aren't going to fix this world but you may be casting the first stone.
 

Gideon300

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#34
I agree Gideon. The church is so compromised now that many don't teach the truth.

I'm so glad you have leaflets - look at what's happening to the children now. A woman from our old church's daughter is a school psychologist and she said all these young teens are coming to her with gender identity issues. You know that didn't just happen. Satan appears to be winning. I feel more uncomfortable here by the day.

Now they're saying they're trying to do away with bank accounts. It's just overwhelming what's being thrown at us. On top of that I noticed they're chemtrailing again. What are they spraying now?
The world has always been in Satan's control. It's getting more and more Satanic as Satan comes out in the open. God is not going to change the world. Christians can prevent the decline of the world by being salt and light. The church in the West has been too busy navel gazing and competing with other Christians to be salt and light. So we see the result.

My confidence is in Christ. He is building His church and nothing can stop Him or the church. But it won't be organised Christianity, what I call "Christianism". It will be small groups in places like China, Iran, Iraq or other countries where it costs to be a Christian. The Western world is turning against Christianity also. So we will be forced to get real or go back into the world. Satan one day will be cast down, overcome by the brethren who know the power of the Blood, who testify to Christ and who do not love their own lives to the point of death. This is not just physical death. It is the death to self.

There are Christians who take on Satan every day, resisting him and not allowing themselves to be swallowed up by apathy and complacency. They are small in number but great in influence. Satan will be cast down and there is nothing he can do to stop it. He can only delay. His end is certain. The Lake of fire awaits him. I cheated. I read the end of the book!
 

Nehemiah6

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There is so much online about the danger of vaccines.
And some still want to bury their heads in the sand. So here are the latest alarming official statistics from Europe (which could still be below the real numbers):

29,934 Deaths 2,804,900 Injuries Following COVID Shots in European Database of Adverse Reactions – Corporate Journalists Have Pericarditis After Pfizer Shots
https://healthimpactnews.com/2021/2...nalists-have-pericarditis-after-pfizer-shots/

In view of this why hasn't there been a TOTAL BAN ON ALL COVID VACCINES? Because all governments have decided that this is an excellent way to exert tyranny in free countries while killing and maiming people. No doubt there are huge payoffs being handed out under the table.
 

JaumeJ

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Being retired in Europe, Spain, I enjoy the privilege of being in a country with one of the lowest death rates in theworld, that is per capita, not just the outright figures. The US, Mexico, Brazil, and India far urpass this per capita rate .

Here people have the good spirit to wear the mask, and to have the vaccinations without many of the negationists.
Of course there are some, but very few.

These tales of embryos being utilized for mateerials for the vaccines are only spread by the believers who are completely unaware of the true goodness of the work behind the develpment of all the vaccines around the globe. These loving Christinas would rather be carriers than averters of spreading death.
You want figures? Look at the areas where the majority of the negationists are, I mean the figures of edeaths.

As for the pandemic being bogus, do not tell me my own relatives who haved died from the pandemic were killed by a bogus virus.

Oh, I do not need anyone claiming to be expert on vaccines to tellme I must t believe what they say, I go by the reality of the murdering individuals who have not been vaccinated, do not wear masks to protecst othr and by thenumber of deaths where they live. I need no expertixe claimed by other to tell me the deaths around this tired old globe are bogus.
 
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I thought those excuses were lame too. What's hard is then the believers who do speak out then incur all the grief while those such as my friend get to sit and watch TV and enjoy their ice cream and reap the benefits of the work of the doers. I just don't think God is going to hold us guiltless. Look at the world we're leaving to this next generation. These youth don't stand a chance.

They're teaching these kids perversion - it's being pushed by Hollyweird and is even in cartoons. A woman at our old church's daughter is a school psychologist and said that a lot of youth are coming to her with gender identity issues. That didn't just happen - that was planted in their minds.

I really fear for this next generation. If we don't all take up our cross and act it's going to be suffering upon suffering.
Its sad for adults to even have a mind frame like that towards kids. I just pray adults with that type of mind frames don't ever have kids. In reality people like that don't deserve kids
 

NotmebutHim

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#38
How and when did we as believers get so hung up on hand signals and gestures?

Wouldn't surprise me if someone came along and said that a pastor such as John MacArthur or Justin Peters was a false teacher based solely on how they move their hands.

:unsure:
 

Blain

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#39
Speaking up against evil is one thing acting out against evil is another. however this is a time in bible prophecy where sadly corruption and evil will prosper it is all part of bible prophecy this country is doomed to fall.
I know it is hard to sit back and watch as this country slowly destroys itself with these idiots in the white house but in order for things to get better they have to get a lot worse. The only thing good I can say about biden is that nothing brings a country together like a common enemy. Lets go brandon.
 

p_rehbein

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Regarding the question in the Title of the OP:

Yes. Christians NOT speaking up is the VERY REASON our Nation is in the condition it is in.