Are Christians to speak up when they see evil?

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saintrose

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I've had these discussions with a friend who refused to get involved and speak up against evil. Her response was "God never sleeps!" and "We're told things will grow worse in the end times."

But is that what God expects of us? To sit back and let the country go to the devil while we sit in our homes watching Netflix?

I couldn't buy her logic and asked the pastor at our bible study who said that was just an excuse to not act. Just how many Christians are violating their duty to act under the guise of "super-spirituality"?

What are your thoughts on this? I read this article by Gary Burnett and it made sense:


“The belief in a supernatural source of evil is not necessary; men alone are quite capable of every wickedness.”
~ Joseph Conrad, Under Western Eyes pt. 2, ch. 4 (1911)

Man’s Inhumanity to Man Accelerated

It is not only difficult to understand, but almost impossible to believe, that only a small fraction of mankind can produce what is described as most of the evil, while virtually all the rest of society voluntarily allows it. It matters not that most of the herd believes that mankind is basically good, for so-called good men do not stand idle while bad men pillage, plunder, and murder. Good men do not hide in the face of adversity or due to terror levied at the hands of the state monsters. Good men do not maim and kill on orders from warmongers and criminals in government without legitimate cause, of which none exists. Good men do not bend and comply to immoral mandates handed down by self-proclaimed elites and political scum. Good men do not succumb to cowardice. Those who do nothing in the face of evil then are not good men. So, is man really basically good, or is this just a falsely created myth meant to protect the fragile psyche of the masses so that weak and inadequate humans can continue to shield themselves from guilt through dishonesty, while doing nothing to prove their worth?

Man’s inhumanity to man has accelerated greatly, as the obvious evil among us, and those who willingly allow that evil to exist and prosper, are knowingly and unknowingly working together to bring about the destruction of mankind.

Some may take offence at the claim that man is not inherently good, but can they defend that position given the state of the world we live in today, where the masses take little or no responsibility whatsoever for their extreme non-caring and apathetic behavior that has led to total tyranny? In this country called the ‘United’ States, there is essentially no unity left, only divisiveness and antagonistic loathing survive. Love and compassion have been replaced by hate and indifference. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you is now rarely if ever considered, while self-fulfillment, self-indulgence, envy, and an abandonment of self-responsibility reign supreme. The Golden Rule has disappeared from view in this society in favor of do unto others in order to gain for self. This reversal of the basic premise of good has left only emptiness and misery, and this state of mind does not allow for the capability of compassion. How can a country or world survive under these barren and meaningless conditions?

Consider the fact that mankind has existed throughout history in a perpetual state of war. War is essentially and purposely the slaughter of others for the benefit of the abhorrent rulers and state, little or nothing more. It requires that its participants, whether they claim to be ‘patriots,’ (a desired state lie and excuse for those prosecuting and participating in this evil, ) righteous protectors, or saviors of country, to become murderers of the innocent; not because they are defending themselves, their families, their fellow men, or their country, but because they are doing the bidding of the heinous ruling class and the governments that prosecute this carnage only for the sake of money, power, and control. Hundreds upon hundreds of millions, and likely over a billion lives have been lost due to war throughout history, and this is just the beginning of what is to come. Is this the best that this human species can accomplish? Is this the true essence of man? Is man so consumed by a deficiency of character and deep-rooted hate that war is eternally inevitable and desired? Are death and destruction permanent ambitions of mankind, and is mass indifference by the collective all that is necessary in order for the carnage of the ruling class to continue its quest for total domination?

At this particular point in time war is raging in the U.S. and in every corner of the world, but it is not any war against some manufactured foreign enemy, it is not a war of missiles and bombs, it is not a war brought about by any false flag military attack, but it is a deadly war of stealth. No, this war we are in today is not about dictators or terrorists, it is aggressive war by this and every other state against its people; a war against humanity itself. The ruling class who stay hidden from sight and their pawns and enforcers in government, are at war against the rest of us. The goals of this globalist cabal are of course power and control, and a great reset of all aspects of life, but in order to accomplish these grand agendas, the murder and slaughter of hundreds of millions, if not billions is sought. This will not be accomplished simply by traditional warfare, it must be done covertly, and with the blessing and voluntary acceptance by those being eliminated and also those left who are to be controlled. Hence, the fake ‘Covid pandemic,’ the poisonous killer ‘vaccines,’ the manmade ‘climate change’ lie, and the continued notion of state as master and ‘protector’ of the people, still continues to be the catalysts driving this carnage of life and liberty against the people in order to achieve this totalitarian takeover.

While this analysis may seem defeatist in nature, or based on a doomsday scenario, it is not meant for that purpose. This harsh message is only necessary in order to hopefully awaken the mind, spirit, and souls of all those still passionate enough about individual freedom to do what is required to regain it. We are all men, we all fail at times, but constant, allowed, and accepted failure, or voluntary acquiescence to false authority, is simply a willing compliance to a master’s commands, and can only lead to slavery and despair. We have but one life on this earth, and to allow that gift to be destroyed due to an absence of feelings, compassion, and courage, is self-destruction. These words are meant to awaken as many as possible to their own sorry plight created by their own hand; all due to the fact that mass indifference has consumed this society. That indifference not only guarantees defeat at the hands of evil, it breeds evil in the minds of all men consumed by it. Without a change of heart and mind, without knowledge of the facts of one’s own existence, and without honest acceptance of reality, we all face a hell on earth. That should never be accepted by any who desire to be free.

To challenge reality is to ignore truth. To ignore truth is to accept defeat by the wicked. This will be our fate if the people do not soon wake up and stop it. If this madness continues, the people will have allowed this ruling class to get its way. That should never be acceptable to any who desire freedom. That should never be acceptable to any who desire life.

To gain freedom only requires the desire and courage of the many to say no, and to say it loudly.

All this havoc, this misfortune, this ruin, descends upon you not from alien foes, but from the one enemy whom you yourselves render as powerful as he is, for whom you go bravely to war, for whose greatness you do not refuse to offer your own bodies unto death. He who thus domineers over you has only two eyes, only two hands, only one body, no more than is possessed by the least man among the infinite numbers dwelling in your cities; he has indeed nothing more than the power that you confer upon him to destroy you.

~ Étienne de La Boétie, book Discourse on Voluntary Servitude–1548
 

JaumeJ

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I believe your friend is watching. I am too.
 

Roughsoul1991

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I've had these discussions with a friend who refused to get involved and speak up against evil. Her response was "God never sleeps!" and "We're told things will grow worse in the end times."

But is that what God expects of us? To sit back and let the country go to the devil while we sit in our homes watching Netflix?

I couldn't buy her logic and asked the pastor at our bible study who said that was just an excuse to not act. Just how many Christians are violating their duty to act under the guise of "super-spirituality"?

What are your thoughts on this? I read this article by Gary Burnett and it made sense:


“The belief in a supernatural source of evil is not necessary; men alone are quite capable of every wickedness.”
~ Joseph Conrad, Under Western Eyes pt. 2, ch. 4 (1911)

Man’s Inhumanity to Man Accelerated

It is not only difficult to understand, but almost impossible to believe, that only a small fraction of mankind can produce what is described as most of the evil, while virtually all the rest of society voluntarily allows it. It matters not that most of the herd believes that mankind is basically good, for so-called good men do not stand idle while bad men pillage, plunder, and murder. Good men do not hide in the face of adversity or due to terror levied at the hands of the state monsters. Good men do not maim and kill on orders from warmongers and criminals in government without legitimate cause, of which none exists. Good men do not bend and comply to immoral mandates handed down by self-proclaimed elites and political scum. Good men do not succumb to cowardice. Those who do nothing in the face of evil then are not good men. So, is man really basically good, or is this just a falsely created myth meant to protect the fragile psyche of the masses so that weak and inadequate humans can continue to shield themselves from guilt through dishonesty, while doing nothing to prove their worth?

Man’s inhumanity to man has accelerated greatly, as the obvious evil among us, and those who willingly allow that evil to exist and prosper, are knowingly and unknowingly working together to bring about the destruction of mankind.

Some may take offence at the claim that man is not inherently good, but can they defend that position given the state of the world we live in today, where the masses take little or no responsibility whatsoever for their extreme non-caring and apathetic behavior that has led to total tyranny? In this country called the ‘United’ States, there is essentially no unity left, only divisiveness and antagonistic loathing survive. Love and compassion have been replaced by hate and indifference. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you is now rarely if ever considered, while self-fulfillment, self-indulgence, envy, and an abandonment of self-responsibility reign supreme. The Golden Rule has disappeared from view in this society in favor of do unto others in order to gain for self. This reversal of the basic premise of good has left only emptiness and misery, and this state of mind does not allow for the capability of compassion. How can a country or world survive under these barren and meaningless conditions?

Consider the fact that mankind has existed throughout history in a perpetual state of war. War is essentially and purposely the slaughter of others for the benefit of the abhorrent rulers and state, little or nothing more. It requires that its participants, whether they claim to be ‘patriots,’ (a desired state lie and excuse for those prosecuting and participating in this evil, ) righteous protectors, or saviors of country, to become murderers of the innocent; not because they are defending themselves, their families, their fellow men, or their country, but because they are doing the bidding of the heinous ruling class and the governments that prosecute this carnage only for the sake of money, power, and control. Hundreds upon hundreds of millions, and likely over a billion lives have been lost due to war throughout history, and this is just the beginning of what is to come. Is this the best that this human species can accomplish? Is this the true essence of man? Is man so consumed by a deficiency of character and deep-rooted hate that war is eternally inevitable and desired? Are death and destruction permanent ambitions of mankind, and is mass indifference by the collective all that is necessary in order for the carnage of the ruling class to continue its quest for total domination?

At this particular point in time war is raging in the U.S. and in every corner of the world, but it is not any war against some manufactured foreign enemy, it is not a war of missiles and bombs, it is not a war brought about by any false flag military attack, but it is a deadly war of stealth. No, this war we are in today is not about dictators or terrorists, it is aggressive war by this and every other state against its people; a war against humanity itself. The ruling class who stay hidden from sight and their pawns and enforcers in government, are at war against the rest of us. The goals of this globalist cabal are of course power and control, and a great reset of all aspects of life, but in order to accomplish these grand agendas, the murder and slaughter of hundreds of millions, if not billions is sought. This will not be accomplished simply by traditional warfare, it must be done covertly, and with the blessing and voluntary acceptance by those being eliminated and also those left who are to be controlled. Hence, the fake ‘Covid pandemic,’ the poisonous killer ‘vaccines,’ the manmade ‘climate change’ lie, and the continued notion of state as master and ‘protector’ of the people, still continues to be the catalysts driving this carnage of life and liberty against the people in order to achieve this totalitarian takeover.

While this analysis may seem defeatist in nature, or based on a doomsday scenario, it is not meant for that purpose. This harsh message is only necessary in order to hopefully awaken the mind, spirit, and souls of all those still passionate enough about individual freedom to do what is required to regain it. We are all men, we all fail at times, but constant, allowed, and accepted failure, or voluntary acquiescence to false authority, is simply a willing compliance to a master’s commands, and can only lead to slavery and despair. We have but one life on this earth, and to allow that gift to be destroyed due to an absence of feelings, compassion, and courage, is self-destruction. These words are meant to awaken as many as possible to their own sorry plight created by their own hand; all due to the fact that mass indifference has consumed this society. That indifference not only guarantees defeat at the hands of evil, it breeds evil in the minds of all men consumed by it. Without a change of heart and mind, without knowledge of the facts of one’s own existence, and without honest acceptance of reality, we all face a hell on earth. That should never be accepted by any who desire to be free.

To challenge reality is to ignore truth. To ignore truth is to accept defeat by the wicked. This will be our fate if the people do not soon wake up and stop it. If this madness continues, the people will have allowed this ruling class to get its way. That should never be acceptable to any who desire freedom. That should never be acceptable to any who desire life.

To gain freedom only requires the desire and courage of the many to say no, and to say it loudly.

All this havoc, this misfortune, this ruin, descends upon you not from alien foes, but from the one enemy whom you yourselves render as powerful as he is, for whom you go bravely to war, for whose greatness you do not refuse to offer your own bodies unto death. He who thus domineers over you has only two eyes, only two hands, only one body, no more than is possessed by the least man among the infinite numbers dwelling in your cities; he has indeed nothing more than the power that you confer upon him to destroy you.

~ Étienne de La Boétie, book Discourse on Voluntary Servitude–1548

Matthew 24:45-51
New International Version

45 “Who then is the faithful and wise servant, whom the master has put in charge of the servants in his household to give them their food at the proper time? 46 It will be good for that servant whose master finds him doing so when he returns. 47 Truly I tell you, he will put him in charge of all his possessions. 48 But suppose that servant is wicked and says to himself, ‘My master is staying away a long time,’ 49 and he then begins to beat his fellow servants and to eat and drink with drunkards. 50 The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he is not aware of. 51 He will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the hypocrites, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
 

Pemican

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If you want to speak up against evil that is OK as long as you can do it without getting into self righteous arrogance and legalism. But the solution to sin and evil begins with the gospel message and the acceptance of God's salvation by believing in Christ. Salvation is where a turn around away from evil begins for any individual. After the moment of salvation, spiritual growth through the study of the Word of God transforms the mind from a humanistic view to the divine view of life. This is real change. This is how you draw nearer to God, align yourself with the plan of God, and turn away from evil.
 
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Being a good representative for GOD IS not only about giving money but GOD IS a SPIRIT and those worship HIM MUST worship HIM In Spirit and In TRUTH.
 

Gideon300

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I've had these discussions with a friend who refused to get involved and speak up against evil. Her response was "God never sleeps!" and "We're told things will grow worse in the end times."

But is that what God expects of us? To sit back and let the country go to the devil while we sit in our homes watching Netflix?

I couldn't buy her logic and asked the pastor at our bible study who said that was just an excuse to not act. Just how many Christians are violating their duty to act under the guise of "super-spirituality"?

What are your thoughts on this? I read this article by Gary Burnett and it made sense:


“The belief in a supernatural source of evil is not necessary; men alone are quite capable of every wickedness.”
~ Joseph Conrad, Under Western Eyes pt. 2, ch. 4 (1911)





To challenge reality is to ignore truth. To ignore truth is to accept defeat by the wicked. This will be our fate if the people do not soon wake up and stop it. If this madness continues, the people will have allowed this ruling class to get its way. That should never be acceptable to any who desire freedom. That should never be acceptable to any who desire life.

To gain freedom only requires the desire and courage of the many to say no, and to say it loudly.


~ eÉtienne de La Boéti, book Discourse on Voluntary Servitude–1548
Judgement begins with the house of God. When the church gets its house in order, it will have the moral authority to say something to the world. Today I spoke to someone who listened often to a well known Christian who was found to have improper relationships with young women. He was shattered. Satan used the fall from grace of someone the man respected to undermine his faith. I believe I was able to help him and to confirm what other Christians have said to him. Just the same, how much better it would be if such encouragement was not necessary.

Christians need to wake up. We have all the power and authority of the Lord Jesus. He did not go around condemning the secular rulers. He took on the religious hypocrites who were fine outwardly but corrupt inwardly. He told Roman soldiers to be content with their wages, not to rebel and join the Jews in revolution. He commended the Roman Centurion as a man of faith. Lord Jesus did not demand that he quit his position as a leader in the occupying army.

The reason that nations become great is spiritual. Queen Victoria ruled over the greatest age of the British Empire. Britain really was great in those days. She declared it was due to the Christian heritage that Britain enjoyed and maintained. The USA also once had a true Christian foundation and built much upon that foundation. Look at it now. Every kind of evil is rampant, anyone who dares to oppose evil is shouted down, there is no free speech and little in the way of equality, liberty and true justice . Britain is headed towards being a Muslim nation. And that is simply because the church became complacent, tolerant of immorality and failed to engage in spiritual warfare.

It's not wrong to speak up on issues. Right now I have leaflets to deliver opposing gender reassignment surgery for children. Parents who counsel their children against it could go to prison for 10 years. Paedophiles get shorter sentences. Our government is utterly corrupt. But I have to acknowledge my failure. I was too taken up with federal issues and so neglected state issues. I won't make that mistake again. However, it would have been far better if the state had not become corrupt in the first place. One person can't change that. The church must rise up in resisting Satan, the true enemy of our souls.

God's judgement for now is very simple. He lets people do as they please. He does not need to intervene. He will at times send floods, earthquakes and such to get man's attention, or stop some great evil from occurring. But mostly the human race is quite capable of self inflicting wounds.

Romans 1 traces the decline of the human race. "Therefore God gave them over to the desires of their hearts." verse 24. How do we reverse this? I don't know that it is possible now. We are meant to be salt. Salt preserves what is there, it will not improve it. Even if nothing gets worse in our societies, we are still far from the Christian values that once set us apart. One thing is for sure: the status quo is unacceptable to God and should be to us. 2 Chronicles 7:14 should be on everyone's heart right now. Don't expect the world to change. It is under Satan's rule. We need the Lord to change us. Then just maybe the land will be healed.
 

Blik

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When we put Christ in our heart to follow him we don't do things the world's way any longer. It is the world's way to fight for our rights, and get the best of our enemies. That is not the way of Christ. Christ told us to preach the good news, but to resist not evil. Instead we are to look for some good we can do to those around us who are our enemies and wish evil for us.

“But I say unto you, That you resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite you on your right cheek, turn to him the other also.” (Matthew 5:39)

Turning our back on the ways of the world and living with heaven our true home is not easy. Christ, who we follow, had the ability to stop the Pharisees from killing the body he was in but Christ allowed them to do that rather than resist evil.
 
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I think anybody with moral values should speak up when something is not right rather your're a Christian or not. That's what we teach our kids, so why not practice what we preach.
 

Aaron56

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Are we not led by the Spirit in such matters? If not, how will we know whether to be silent as a lamb led to slaughter or to turn over the tables of the money changers? To speak to the crowd or to walk away? There is always need and evil but knowing what to address is the Lord’s decision.
 
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Yes. We are to resist evil. Evil in society and evil within ourselves. When you feel yourself wanting to laugh at a joke in order to fit in, that's exactly when you probably need to be silent. And when you feel yourself wanting to be silent so as not to confront evil, then that exactly when you need to say something. I'd say it's better to err on the side of a little too much confrontation rather than not quite enough.
 

Nehemiah6

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I've had these discussions with a friend who refused to get involved and speak up against evil. Her response was "God never sleeps!" and "We're told things will grow worse in the end times."
Lame excuses. Both Christ and John the Baptist spoke out against sin and evil around them, and Christ drove the buyers and sellers out of the temple in Jerusalem twice. Since Christians are lights in the world, they must expose darkness whenever possible.
 

saintrose

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If you want to speak up against evil that is OK as long as you can do it without getting into self righteous arrogance and legalism. But the solution to sin and evil begins with the gospel message and the acceptance of God's salvation by believing in Christ. Salvation is where a turn around away from evil begins for any individual. After the moment of salvation, spiritual growth through the study of the Word of God transforms the mind from a humanistic view to the divine view of life. This is real change. This is how you draw nearer to God, align yourself with the plan of God, and turn away from evil.
I think christians can speak against evil without getting into self-righteousness and legalism. Yes salvation is imperative for turning away from evil but I believe God expects us to act too. Scripture says we're 'laborers together with God.'
 

saintrose

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Judgement begins with the house of God. When the church gets its house in order, it will have the moral authority to say something to the world. Today I spoke to someone who listened often to a well known Christian who was found to have improper relationships with young women. He was shattered. Satan used the fall from grace of someone the man respected to undermine his faith. I believe I was able to help him and to confirm what other Christians have said to him. Just the same, how much better it would be if such encouragement was not necessary.

Christians need to wake up. We have all the power and authority of the Lord Jesus. He did not go around condemning the secular rulers. He took on the religious hypocrites who were fine outwardly but corrupt inwardly. He told Roman soldiers to be content with their wages, not to rebel and join the Jews in revolution. He commended the Roman Centurion as a man of faith. Lord Jesus did not demand that he quit his position as a leader in the occupying army.

The reason that nations become great is spiritual. Queen Victoria ruled over the greatest age of the British Empire. Britain really was great in those days. She declared it was due to the Christian heritage that Britain enjoyed and maintained. The USA also once had a true Christian foundation and built much upon that foundation. Look at it now. Every kind of evil is rampant, anyone who dares to oppose evil is shouted down, there is no free speech and little in the way of equality, liberty and true justice . Britain is headed towards being a Muslim nation. And that is simply because the church became complacent, tolerant of immorality and failed to engage in spiritual warfare.

It's not wrong to speak up on issues. Right now I have leaflets to deliver opposing gender reassignment surgery for children. Parents who counsel their children against it could go to prison for 10 years. Paedophiles get shorter sentences. Our government is utterly corrupt. But I have to acknowledge my failure. I was too taken up with federal issues and so neglected state issues. I won't make that mistake again. However, it would have been far better if the state had not become corrupt in the first place. One person can't change that. The church must rise up in resisting Satan, the true enemy of our souls.

God's judgement for now is very simple. He lets people do as they please. He does not need to intervene. He will at times send floods, earthquakes and such to get man's attention, or stop some great evil from occurring. But mostly the human race is quite capable of self inflicting wounds.

Romans 1 traces the decline of the human race. "Therefore God gave them over to the desires of their hearts." verse 24. How do we reverse this? I don't know that it is possible now. We are meant to be salt. Salt preserves what is there, it will not improve it. Even if nothing gets worse in our societies, we are still far from the Christian values that once set us apart. One thing is for sure: the status quo is unacceptable to God and should be to us. 2 Chronicles 7:14 should be on everyone's heart right now. Don't expect the world to change. It is under Satan's rule. We need the Lord to change us. Then just maybe the land will be healed.
That makes sense: The reason nations become great is spiritual. I've been afraid for awhile as I knew God's judgements would come.

It gets overwhelming reading the news - alternative news not the Mockingbird Media. The little that I can do I try to do but it seems complacency has taken over. The church has lost its power. Christians are content to sit in pews and hear the Word but not do anything: Hearers of the Word but not doers.

James 2:18

“Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.”
 

saintrose

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When we put Christ in our heart to follow him we don't do things the world's way any longer. It is the world's way to fight for our rights, and get the best of our enemies. That is not the way of Christ. Christ told us to preach the good news, but to resist not evil. Instead we are to look for some good we can do to those around us who are our enemies and wish evil for us.

“But I say unto you, That you resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite you on your right cheek, turn to him the other also.” (Matthew 5:39)

Turning our back on the ways of the world and living with heaven our true home is not easy. Christ, who we follow, had the ability to stop the Pharisees from killing the body he was in but Christ allowed them to do that rather than resist evil.

But what about the verse:

James 2:18

“Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.”

What about the generations of children who are taught sexual perversion in classrooms? What about the generations of children taught Critical Race Theory - which is worsening race relations? If we don't act we'll have these youth growing up hating each other.

What about the Pastors of old who formed The Black Robe Regiment? You believe they violated Scripture by fighting evil?

I think that complacency is why the country is in such a mess today.
 

saintrose

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I think anybody with moral values should speak up when something is not right rather your're a Christian or not. That's what we teach our kids, so why not practice what we preach.
I agree with that.
 

JaumeJ

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Unsure what you mean?
Matthew 24:42-44
“Therefore be on the alert, for you do not know which day your Lord is coming. But be sure of this, that if the head of the house had known at what time of the night the thief was coming, he would have been on the alert and would not have allowed his house to be broken into. For this reason you also must be ready; for the Son of Man is coming at an hour when you do not think He will.
 

saintrose

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Are we not led by the Spirit in such matters? If not, how will we know whether to be silent as a lamb led to slaughter or to turn over the tables of the money changers? To speak to the crowd or to walk away? There is always need and evil but knowing what to address is the Lord’s decision.
That's a great point - one that's stumped me. I try to get close to God but I'm never sure which way He's leading. I watched a video of a huge beefy cop wrestle an elderly woman to the ground and handcuff her for not wearing a mask. Not one person spoke up.

Why???

I would have spoken up because what that cop did was wrong. Who else would have?

In another video I watched a cop interviewed who said he came upon a bad accident and people were lying on the ground with onlookers video-taping the grotesque scene rather than rendering aid.

What is wrong with people???

What about do unto others as you would have them do unto you?

What would you personally do? Videotape or act?

I think it's a sick account of who we are as a people now and I don't think God will hold us guiltless.


33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:
36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.
37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?
38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?
39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?
40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:
43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.
44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?
45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.
46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
 
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I believe your friend is watching. I am too.
Unsure what you mean?
Matthew 24:42-44
“Therefore be on the alert, for you do not know which day your Lord is coming. But be sure of this, that if the head of the house had known at what time of the night the thief was coming, he would have been on the alert and would not have allowed his house to be broken into. For this reason you also must be ready; for the Son of Man is coming at an hour when you do not think He will.
 

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Yes. We are to resist evil. Evil in society and evil within ourselves. When you feel yourself wanting to laugh at a joke in order to fit in, that's exactly when you probably need to be silent. And when you feel yourself wanting to be silent so as not to confront evil, then that exactly when you need to say something. I'd say it's better to err on the side of a little too much confrontation rather than not quite enough.
I agree with this. Even if you're the only one to speak up. I've spoken up several times and then others followed - but someone has to lead and I believe it should be christians.