Basic income

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montana123

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/c...eed-basic-income-e2-80-99-programs/ar-AAPWygB

I have said that the stimulus checks are a pattern for basic income for America and Chicago is only the start.

We are inching closer to a socialist nation and that is probably why they are attacking the rich more now and saying that billionaires need to pay for the spending bill of 3.5 trillion dollars.

Also that is a big motivating factor to get the people of the world together is if they have a basic income for the world.
 

ZNP

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If every person gets a "basic income" that would make the government slave masters and the people slaves. Let's all stay hopeful that these new slave masters are far more humane than what we have learned from history.
 

tourist

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Where does the money come from for a basic income that the government hands out, regardless of one's occupation, if any, or type of work / hours worked?
 

ZNP

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Where does the money come from for a basic income that the government hands out, regardless of one's occupation, if any, or type of work / hours worked?
All value comes from what we produce. Obviously if someone is not producing anything they are a drain on the economy. It sounds good that everyone gets a basic income, but once you give that power to the government they will do two things, they will take your money to give to someone else and second they will be motivated to do away with the "useless eaters". Just think of Russia, China, Egypt or any of the other tyrannies where they had this power.
 

Gideon300

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/c...eed-basic-income-e2-80-99-programs/ar-AAPWygB

I have said that the stimulus checks are a pattern for basic income for America and Chicago is only the start.

We are inching closer to a socialist nation and that is probably why they are attacking the rich more now and saying that billionaires need to pay for the spending bill of 3.5 trillion dollars.

Also that is a big motivating factor to get the people of the world together is if they have a basic income for the world.
God's economic system is for people to work for a living. Satan seeks to undermine everything that is of God. Unemployment is mostly caused by government policies and corporate greed. Add to that an education system that tells kids they are too special to take menial jobs, and you have a bunch of people who don't know what work is.
 

PennEd

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We are inching closer to a socialist nation and that is probably why they are attacking the rich more now and saying that billionaires need to pay for the spending bill of 3.5 trillion dollars.
DONT let them fool us again with their lies.

This “billionaire” tax, is an absolute Trojan horse attempt to tax “yet unrealized” investments from everyday Americans 401k and IRA accounts.
 

Gideon300

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Where does the money come from for a basic income that the government hands out, regardless of one's occupation, if any, or type of work / hours worked?
Good question. My last job (I'm retired) was in the automation industry. It has great advantages, churning out cheap, often well made products without a lot of labour. The problem is that low skilled jobs are becoming very difficult to get. So kids are not getting experience of working full time. Now even supermarket jobs are being taken over by customers instead of check out chicks, courtesy of self serve. AI is taking some repetitive legal work, soon taxis will be driverless as will trucks and delivery vehicles.

So who will earn the money to pay for the goods that corporations churn out? And who will pay the taxes that enable governments to function? It is as if business leaders know that the end is coming and want to grab what they can while they have time.
 

ZNP

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DONT let them fool us again with their lies.

This “billionaire” tax, is an absolute Trojan horse attempt to tax “yet unrealized” investments from everyday Americans 401k and IRA accounts.
If they tax the unrealized gain that we have in our house we would lose the house. It would be a great way to steal houses from Americans. First you do it in special cases and then expand until many houses are taken.
 

Smoke

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/c...eed-basic-income-e2-80-99-programs/ar-AAPWygB

I have said that the stimulus checks are a pattern for basic income for America and Chicago is only the start.

We are inching closer to a socialist nation and that is probably why they are attacking the rich more now and saying that billionaires need to pay for the spending bill of 3.5 trillion dollars.

Also that is a big motivating factor to get the people of the world together is if they have a basic income for the world.
I won't be crying for Amazon and Exxon who have paid virtually nothing because of corporate welfare aka tax credits. While I'm against universal income, I'm about 10x more against billion dollar corporations who pay their workers a garbage wage where the government has to subsidize their basic essentials/health care.

Everyone needs to work and everyone needs to pay taxes. Corporate welfare yields the true slave owners aka corporations who exploit their workers. The government enables them to be as such.
 

tourist

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Good question. My last job (I'm retired) was in the automation industry. It has great advantages, churning out cheap, often well made products without a lot of labour. The problem is that low skilled jobs are becoming very difficult to get. So kids are not getting experience of working full time. Now even supermarket jobs are being taken over by customers instead of check out chicks, courtesy of self serve. AI is taking some repetitive legal work, soon taxis will be driverless as will trucks and delivery vehicles.

So who will earn the money to pay for the goods that corporations churn out? And who will pay the taxes that enable governments to function? It is as if business leaders know that the end is coming and want to grab what they can while they have time.
Right now I' m retired but thinking about just getting a part-time job somewhere just to be productive. The extra money would come in handy too. I just thank God that for the most part my working years are behind me. You are right, even low wage entry level jobs are being phased out. Not looking too good for someone just starting out in the workforce. I don't envy them.
 

tourist

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If they tax the unrealized gain that we have in our house we would lose the house. It would be a great way to steal houses from Americans. First you do it in special cases and then expand until many houses are taken.
If the government tried to take my home I would seriously consider burning it down.
 

shittim

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Good question. My last job (I'm retired) was in the automation industry. It has great advantages, churning out cheap, often well made products without a lot of labour. The problem is that low skilled jobs are becoming very difficult to get. So kids are not getting experience of working full time. Now even supermarket jobs are being taken over by customers instead of check out chicks, courtesy of self serve. AI is taking some repetitive legal work, soon taxis will be driverless as will trucks and delivery vehicles.

So who will earn the money to pay for the goods that corporations churn out? And who will pay the taxes that enable governments to function? It is as if business leaders know that the end is coming and want to grab what they can while they have time.

Hence the need for the poison vaccine.
 

ZNP

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If the government tried to take my home I would seriously consider burning it down.
There is a better plan, realize the gains. Let's say your house is valued at $500k but everyone is being forced to sell their house so you get a relative to buy your house at the same price you paid for it and you in turn buy their house for the same price they paid for it. Now you have $0 in realized gains and so 0 taxes and likewise with your friend.

Then after a suitable time you both do the reverse of the transactions.
 

ZNP

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Hence the need for the poison vaccine.
Still you have to be careful with that because the more successful it is the more you will need grave diggers. I suppose that is what the illegal alien invasion is all about. They thought of everything :)
 

shittim

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those population control experts in Germany devised cremation on an industrial scale.
 

shittim

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The sausage picture was just a joke...:giggle:
 

Handyman62

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I won't be crying for Amazon and Exxon who have paid virtually nothing because of corporate welfare aka tax credits. While I'm against universal income, I'm about 10x more against billion dollar corporations who pay their workers a garbage wage where the government has to subsidize their basic essentials/health care.

Everyone needs to work and everyone needs to pay taxes. Corporate welfare yields the true slave owners aka corporations who exploit their workers. The government enables them to be as such.
Who do think actually pays the corporate taxes? Spoiler alert! It's passed directly to the consumers of their products. In reality it's another form of taxation induced inflation.
 

shittim

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I hear NO ONE speaking of the government living within it's income. The collapse of the dollar is planned and going forward.