Do we need to repent more than once to stay saved?

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Should a person continue to ask for forgiveness after salvation.


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I am not.

But if you think that they mean something different, then quote them one-by-one and give the sense of what they really mean.

Although, you probably shouldn't do that; because you are female and Paul wrote that he never allowed a woman to teach or usurp authority over a man.
you are female and Paul wrote that he never allowed a woman to teach or usurp authority over a man. Neither male or female race or tribe.God is not a respecter of persons,,all are one in god.Any way since when is man or woman more powerful then the words of god.
 

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you are female and Paul wrote that he never allowed a woman to teach or usurp authority over a man. Neither male or female race or tribe.God is not a respecter of persons,,all are one in god.Any way since when is man or woman more powerful then the words of god.
I have quoted the scriptures that substantiate the doctrine that you have crossed out, above.

Will you also cross out those scriptures in your own Bible?

Read Revelation 22:18-19.
 

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WOW...your new age religion robe is showing.

Then why does the Lord's prayer say.......forgive us of our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us?
A daily prayer presented by the Bible.
Why does God forgive us of our sins without limit? Under your thought once would be sufficient...right?

Study scriptures.
It also says, "lead us not into temptation but deliver us from evil".

It indicates that, if God answers such a prayer, that we will not be committing sins that need to be forgiven.
 

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there Is a brother that Is praying to GOD and asking for forgiveness Every Sunday, If he doesn't do this will he still be saved?
Precious friend, apparently our Precious brother Misunderstands God's Justification, Where we accept HIS FULL, One-Time Sacrifice for ALL of our sin, God FORGIVES us,
And "Declares us Righteous In HIS Sight!" = God's ETERNAL Relationship! This
Cannot "be broken," else ALL of These Things God Did For us, would be false:
God's OPERATION On All HIS New-born babes In CHRIST!

Then, we are "called into fellowship With CHRIST" (1 Corinthians 1:9). This can and is broken by our disobedience, But, we can "Access God's Amazing GRACE, for help" in our "time of NEED!" (Romans 5:1-2 cp Romans 12:1-2)

More Spiritual understanding of God's THREE Tenses Of Salvation:
God's Simple Will!
 
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hmmm

I don't find that...checking with a Greek concordance and Strong's...they stick with perfect it would seem

perfect, perfecting = verb

mature, maturity = adjective in the biblical sense, although can be a verb in certain usage


Hebrews 10:14 V-RIA-3S
GRK: γὰρ προσφορᾷ τετελείωκεν εἰς τὸ
NAS: offering He has perfected for all time
KJV: offering he hath perfected for
INT: indeed offering he has perfected for

that's what I found.
Ok thanks
I couldnt remember
 
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I quoted the scriptures that substantiate the doctrine that you have crossed out, above.

Will you also cross out those scriptures in your own Bible?

Read Revelation 22:18-19.
yes if you take away a curse god will take a curse from you.If you look into it and ask god with all your heart soul mind,,,You will find that some things have indeed been added.and not including thus added things is not a sin.Real wisdom is to fear god and means to hate evil and every false way.To say a women can't rebuked a man of sin because she is a woman is a false way.
 

Pilgrimshope

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I do not see the OP as saying that.

This was below the title.

Should a person continue to ask for forgiveness after salvation.

So that is what I answered.
yes I did also but the The op said to
Me , they were asking about what if we don’t. ?

sort of he knows 1 John says this

“If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭1:8-10‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭2:1-2‬ ‭KJV‬‬

so he’s asking is that really necassary to confess our sins in order to be cleansed from them ? “ what if I don’t confess ?

sort of the same question as what if o don’t forgive others ? Am
I still Forgiven ? What if I don’t get baptized do I still have remission of sins ? It’s sort of rooted in the “
Is confessing your sin a necassary work ? Is getting baptized a necassary work ? Is forgiving others a necassary work ?
 

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yes if you take away a curse god will take a curse from you.If you look into it and ask god with all your heart soul mind,,,You will find that some things have indeed been added.and not including thus added things is not a sin.Real wisdom is to fear god and means to hate evil and every false way.To say a women can't rebuked a man of sin because she is a woman is a false way.
All of scripture is inspired of the Lord and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, and for instruction in righteousness.
 
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All of scripture is inspired of the Lord and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, and for instruction in righteousness.
profitable:) Indeed all things are, if you are his.
 
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Rom 8:28
we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.
 

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Why do you automatically add...deliberately? Even God knew we would not be perfect thus the allowance of sin forgiveness.

Since you feel you are perfect...please list your name so we can see that status...for the first time.(Except Christ)
amen perfection on Christ is found in pursuing the heavenly goal it isn’t measured by the law

Not as though I had already attained, either were already perfect: but I follow after, if that I may apprehend that for which also I am apprehended of Christ Jesus.

Brethren, I count not myself to have apprehended: but this one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before, I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.

Let us therefore, as many as be perfect, be thus minded: and if in any thing ye be otherwise minded, God shall reveal even this unto you. Nevertheless, whereto we have already attained, let us walk by the same rule, let us mind the same thing.”
‭‭Philippians‬ ‭3:12-16‬ ‭KJV‬‬

perfection is found when we begin pursuing Christ in the gospel part of it is to realize and confess d repent of our sins when we become aware of them . Perfection is no longer measured by the law but by the gospel
 
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All of scripture is,But not all scripture is scripture,,not to mention many people worship the scripture and not god Just so you know the bible has disruption of patterns and oppositeisms,,for example when, it says moneys the answer to all things,,,,,it means that it is not,,and that's suppose to be self evident.
 
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Of course he'll still be saved, if he remains in Christ. Why wouldn't he be?
So then would you agree that although It's a good thing to confess your sins for good conscience to GOD It's not necessary to confess your sins to maintain salvation?

Some ask,why did JESUS tell us to pray ....Our father who art In heaven,forgive us of our sins......I was asking that question because of the way some people Interpret 1 John 1:9

1 John 1:8-10
King James Version


8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
 
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hmmm

I don't find that...checking with a Greek concordance and Strong's...they stick with perfect it would seem

perfect, perfecting = verb

mature, maturity = adjective in the biblical sense, although can be a verb in certain usage


Hebrews 10:14 V-RIA-3S
GRK: γὰρ προσφορᾷ τετελείωκεν εἰς τὸ
NAS: offering He has perfected for all time
KJV: offering he hath perfected for
INT: indeed offering he has perfected for

that's what I found.
Ok I did look

found it is "mature" amoung other things

Thayer's Greek Lexicon:



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teleios
1) brought to its end, finished
2) wanting nothing necessary to completeness
3) perfect
4) that which is perfect
4a) consummate human integrity and virtue
4b) of men
4b1) full grown, adult, of full age, mature
 
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WOW...your new age religion robe is showing.

Then why does the Lord's prayer say.......forgive us of our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us?
A daily prayer presented by the Bible.
Why does God forgive us of our sins without limit? Under your thought once would be sufficient...right?

Study scriptures.
Let me use a fictitious scenario to explain my point,bare with me .If a person were to forget to pray for forgiveness of their sins,would they still have salvation?

If you say yes, then that would mean that asking for forgiveness after salvation Is for good conscience toward GOD But It does not affect the person's salvation If they forget to ask for forgiveness,would you agree?
 
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perfect rendered in the bible as mature:

teleiois teleiois G5046 a_ Dat Pl m mature

1 cor 2
6 Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect ["mature" (hands down in the greek)]: yet not the wisdom of this world .......
 
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Let me use a fictitious scenario to explain my point,bare with me .If a person were to forget to pray for forgiveness of their sins,would they still have salvation?

If you say yes, then that would mean that asking for forgiveness after salvation Is for good conscience toward GOD But It does not affect the person's salvation If they forget to ask for forgiveness,would you agree?
there is a "spill over" here.

what you are asking is :
"if your child does not ask for forgiveness for a grievous act (sin) that grieves the parent, are they kicked out of the family?"

nope
just sanctioned

now if they do it or something equal many many times and say "i know you would forgive me anyway and there is no way i am going to lose my family position"
well we can all see the heart is corrupt at that point.

so to say all future sins are just a wink from God.....is pretty rotten.
 
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It also says, "lead us not into temptation but deliver us from evil".

It indicates that, if God answers such a prayer, that we will not be committing sins that need to be forgiven.
no
it just means he delivers his people.
 
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Precious friend, apparently our Precious brother Misunderstands God's Justification, Where we accept HIS FULL, One-Time Sacrifice for ALL of our sin, God FORGIVES us,
And "Declares us Righteous In HIS Sight!" = God's ETERNAL Relationship! This
Cannot "be broken," else ALL of These Things God Did For us, would be false:
God's OPERATION On All HIS New-born babes In CHRIST!

Then, we are "called into fellowship With CHRIST" (1 Corinthians 1:9). This can and is broken by our disobedience, But, we can "Access God's Amazing GRACE, for help" in our "time of NEED!" (Romans 5:1-2 cp Romans 12:1-2)

More Spiritual understanding of God's THREE Tenses Of Salvation:
God's Simple Will!
Then, we are "called into fellowship With CHRIST" (1 Corinthians 1:9). This can and is broken by our disobedience, But, we can "Access God's Amazing GRACE, for help" in our "time of NEED!" (Romans 5:1-2 cp Romans 12:1-2)
When you say that we lose fellowship, are you talking about we lose a good conscience toward GOD when we don't ask for forgiveness or do you mean by not asking for forgiveness means that the person Is not saved until forgiveness Is asked for again,for salvation?
 
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there is a "spill over" here.

what you are asking is :
"if your child does not ask for forgiveness for a grievous act (sin) that grieves the parent, are they kicked out of the family?"

nope
just sanctioned

now if they do it or something equal many many times and say "i know you would forgive me anyway and there is no way i am going to lose my family position"
well we can all see the heart is corrupt at that point.

so to say all future sins are just a wink from God.....is pretty rotten.
I do believe that All sin Including future sins are forgiven and that's why we pray forgive me of my sins even as I forgive those who sin against just In case I sinned and was not aware that I sinned
And for good conscience/fellowship toward GOD.



Sidenote:A person that has been reborn WILL seek to purify themselves (their bodies/mind) even as they are pure (spirit of a just men made perfect)