Do we need to repent more than once to stay saved?
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Right...he is the one who does the work.
However, the righteousness that God gives us is practical.
Tit 3:3, For we ourselves also were sometimes foolish, disobedient, deceived, serving divers lusts and pleasures, living in malice and envy, hateful, and hating one another.
Tit 3:4, But after that the kindness and love of God our Saviour toward man appeared,
Tit 3:5, Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
Tit 3:6, Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour;
Tit 3:7, That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.
It is also practically living for God (1 John 3:7, Romans 5:19, Matthew 5:6, Matthew 5:20).
God doesn't say what He means and He doesn't mean what He says.
"set apart" means "made holy" and there is a practicality to that. Otherwise the word "holy" is stripped of all of its meaning.
There is such a thing as entire sanctification in this life (1 Thessalonians 5:q23-24 (kjv), Hebrews 10:14 (kjv), 1 John 3:9 (kjv)); which is a "second benefit" (2 Corinthians 1:15).
Now, of course, those who reject the kjv's rendering of "perfection" for the watered-down rendering "maturity" or "completeness" are actually heaping to themselves teachers, in the translators of other versions, to tell them what their itching ears want to hear (2 Timothy 4:3).
Of course I do not deny that righteousness is imputed to the sinner who has faith in Christ.
What I am contending for is sanctification. The person who does righteousness is righteous even as Jesus is righteous (1 John 3:7). He is made righteous (Romans 5:19). He is filled with righteousness (Matthew 5:6). His inward righteousness exceeds the outward righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees; otherwise he will not enter the kingdom of heaven (Matthew 5:20).
I don't see that. Why don't you name them. You are one of the only people that I have even contended with on this issue.
And no one with whom I have contended has brought scripture to bear on the issue that has any convincing power.
And those with whom I have been contending have hardened hearts; they are rejecting the holiness of God as He wants to give it to them.
Apparently they have some secret sin in their lives that they don't want to give up.
Otherwise, even as we find in Romans 7:24, they would be discontented with living sinfully and would see the doctrine of entire sanctification as good news indeed.
You would disparage me as if I am the one that needs to be ministered to. But I am attempting to minister to you.
I know that the word of the Lord will not return void (Isaiah 55:10-11); whether it actually bears fruit in your life or whether it merely makes you accountable on your day of judgment so that you have no excuse.
I once was given an award for humility and proceeded to pin it up on my wall. (I am being sarcastic; while that is a true story).
The one who is sanctified wholly (1 Thessalonians 5:23-24 (kjv), Hebrews 10:14 (kjv), 1 John 3:9 (kjv)) is sanctified in Christ.
And if sanctification is not a practical thing, it has no meaning whatsoever. See also 1 John 3:7, Romans 5:19, and Matthew 5:6.
However, the righteousness that God gives us is practical.
Tit 3:3, For we ourselves also were sometimes foolish, disobedient, deceived, serving divers lusts and pleasures, living in malice and envy, hateful, and hating one another.
Tit 3:4, But after that the kindness and love of God our Saviour toward man appeared,
Tit 3:5, Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
Tit 3:6, Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour;
Tit 3:7, That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.
It is also practically living for God (1 John 3:7, Romans 5:19, Matthew 5:6, Matthew 5:20).
God doesn't say what He means and He doesn't mean what He says.
"set apart" means "made holy" and there is a practicality to that. Otherwise the word "holy" is stripped of all of its meaning.
There is such a thing as entire sanctification in this life (1 Thessalonians 5:q23-24 (kjv), Hebrews 10:14 (kjv), 1 John 3:9 (kjv)); which is a "second benefit" (2 Corinthians 1:15).
Now, of course, those who reject the kjv's rendering of "perfection" for the watered-down rendering "maturity" or "completeness" are actually heaping to themselves teachers, in the translators of other versions, to tell them what their itching ears want to hear (2 Timothy 4:3).
Of course I do not deny that righteousness is imputed to the sinner who has faith in Christ.
What I am contending for is sanctification. The person who does righteousness is righteous even as Jesus is righteous (1 John 3:7). He is made righteous (Romans 5:19). He is filled with righteousness (Matthew 5:6). His inward righteousness exceeds the outward righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees; otherwise he will not enter the kingdom of heaven (Matthew 5:20).
I don't see that. Why don't you name them. You are one of the only people that I have even contended with on this issue.
And no one with whom I have contended has brought scripture to bear on the issue that has any convincing power.
And those with whom I have been contending have hardened hearts; they are rejecting the holiness of God as He wants to give it to them.
Apparently they have some secret sin in their lives that they don't want to give up.
Otherwise, even as we find in Romans 7:24, they would be discontented with living sinfully and would see the doctrine of entire sanctification as good news indeed.
You would disparage me as if I am the one that needs to be ministered to. But I am attempting to minister to you.
I know that the word of the Lord will not return void (Isaiah 55:10-11); whether it actually bears fruit in your life or whether it merely makes you accountable on your day of judgment so that you have no excuse.
I once was given an award for humility and proceeded to pin it up on my wall. (I am being sarcastic; while that is a true story).
The one who is sanctified wholly (1 Thessalonians 5:23-24 (kjv), Hebrews 10:14 (kjv), 1 John 3:9 (kjv)) is sanctified in Christ.
And if sanctification is not a practical thing, it has no meaning whatsoever. See also 1 John 3:7, Romans 5:19, and Matthew 5:6.
If you are trying to teach me that I am forgiven apart from any practical righteousness being evident in my life, there is no need. I am fully aware of that.
I want practical righteousness because it will make my witness for Christ more effectual (Philemon 1:6 (kjv)).
Because the Lord has shed abroad His love in my heart (Romans 5:5), I desire to see lost sinners saved.
And, the law is a schoolmaster to lead men to Christ (Galatians 3:24).
If I obey and teach the least of the commandments, I will be called great in the kingdom (Matthew 5:17-20).
I want practical righteousness because it will make my witness for Christ more effectual (Philemon 1:6 (kjv)).
Because the Lord has shed abroad His love in my heart (Romans 5:5), I desire to see lost sinners saved.
And, the law is a schoolmaster to lead men to Christ (Galatians 3:24).
If I obey and teach the least of the commandments, I will be called great in the kingdom (Matthew 5:17-20).
I am not.
But if you think that they mean something different, then quote them one-by-one and give the sense of what they really mean.
Although, you probably shouldn't do that; because you are female and Paul wrote that he never allowed a woman to teach or usurp authority over a man.
But if you think that they mean something different, then quote them one-by-one and give the sense of what they really mean.
Although, you probably shouldn't do that; because you are female and Paul wrote that he never allowed a woman to teach or usurp authority over a man.
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Yep....for that is what the scriptures teach.
1Ti 2:9, In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;
1Ti 2:10, But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works.
1Ti 2:11, Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
1Ti 2:12, But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
1Ti 2:13, For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
1Ti 2:14, And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
1Ti 2:15, Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.
1Co 14:34, Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
1Co 14:35, And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
1Co 14:36, What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only?
1Co 14:37, If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.
1Co 14:38, But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant.
1Ti 2:9, In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;
1Ti 2:10, But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works.
1Ti 2:11, Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
1Ti 2:12, But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
1Ti 2:13, For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
1Ti 2:14, And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
1Ti 2:15, Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.
1Co 14:34, Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
1Co 14:35, And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
1Co 14:36, What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only?
1Co 14:37, If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.
1Co 14:38, But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant.
Confession of sin is in regards to koinoneia fellowship; not your position in Christ.
On of the pastors at my church said it very aptly last night.
When his son used to pull his sister's hair during game night for the family, he would have to go to his room until he knew not to do that any more. Fellowship was broken; he could not enjoy game night with the rest of the family.
However, this did not mean that he was no longer a part of the family.
On of the pastors at my church said it very aptly last night.
When his son used to pull his sister's hair during game night for the family, he would have to go to his room until he knew not to do that any more. Fellowship was broken; he could not enjoy game night with the rest of the family.
However, this did not mean that he was no longer a part of the family.
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