poll can what go into a man or woman defile a man or woman ?

[de-emerald]

Mathew 15:11
What Defiles a Man
10Jesus called the crowd to Him and said, “Listen and understand. 11A man is not defiled by what enters his mouth, but by what comes out of it.” i have included a poll here where by you can vote multiple answers

Has anyone give this scripture much thought and wondered if this scripture is miss represented because people seem to use this scripture for everything they put into their body, i mean is that safe to do so ?. Does what go into a man or woman defile a man or woman as well as what comes out of a man or woman for some things .. Surely for something to come out of your body which is defiling that something which is defiling must have Gone into the body in the first place what ever it may be. Whether it be language or anything else

I also want to talk about animals but not make it the whole point of the thread, on why is it that humans are also referred to as animals in the bible. Surely we must be all plant eaters and not flesh eaters as the bible says for every animal on the face of the earth i have given green plant food,, I have been talking to vegi vegans on forums lately and many agree they have had a better conscience since becoming a vegan vegi.. I thought i would add this because since stopping eating animal flesh i have felt more pleasant in mind and my bodies digestive system seems more at peace, so perhaps animal flesh could be defiling my body.. Its only been one week since i stopped eating meat, and the temptation to eat a McDonald's beef burgers have been a nightmare. And I'm on the verge of cracking up at times i feel the temptations to eat meat are coming from the devil..

Mathew 15:11
What Defiles a Man
10Jesus called the crowd to Him and said, “Listen and understand. 11A man is not defiled by what enters his mouth, but by what comes out of it.”
has anyone actualy wondered whether this scripture is warning that what can come out of you can be defiling ? and its not just related to not what you put in and is only related to what language comes out of your mouth ?.

 

[Gideon300]

Mathew 15:11
What Defiles a Man
10Jesus called the crowd to Him and said, “Listen and understand. 11A man is not defiled by what enters his mouth, but by what comes out of it.” i have included a poll here where by you can vote multiple answers

Has anyone give this scripture much thought and wondered if this scripture is miss represented because people seem to use this scripture for everything they put into their body, i mean is that safe to do so ?. Does what go into a man or woman defile a man or woman as well as what comes out of a man or woman for some things .. Surely for something to come out of your body which is defiling that something which is defiling must have Gone into the body in the first place what ever it may be. Whether it be language or anything else

I also want to talk about animals but not make it the whole point of the thread, on why is it that humans are also referred to as animals in the bible. Surely we must be all plant eaters and not flesh eaters as the bible says for every animal on the face of the earth i have given green plant food,, I have been talking to vegi vegans on forums lately and many agree they have had a better conscience since becoming a vegan vegi.. I thought i would add this because since stopping eating animal flesh i have felt more pleasant in mind and my bodies digestive system seems more at peace, so perhaps animal flesh could be defiling my body.. Its only been one week since i stopped eating meat, and the temptation to eat a McDonald's beef burgers have been a nightmare. And I'm on the verge of cracking up at times i feel the temptations to eat meat are coming from the devil..

Mathew 15:11
What Defiles a Man
10Jesus called the crowd to Him and said, “Listen and understand. 11A man is not defiled by what enters his mouth, but by what comes out of it.”
has anyone actualy wondered whether this scripture is warning that what can come out of you can be defiling ? and its not just related to not what you put in and is only related to what language comes out of your mouth ?.

Lord Jesus ate fish. There is absolutely no reason to stop eating meat. The point of the message is that ceremonial food laws are not the real issue in life. Remember that Lord Jesus said our words expose what is in our hearts. He also said that we will give an account of our powerless words. Words defile, not foods.

Eat meat or not. The choice is yours. Don't judge anyone who chooses to eat meat. It's none of your business. (Colossians 2:16).
Satan does not care what you eat either. He does enjoy watching people squirm in false guilt and get tied up in fruitless restrictions and regulations that achieve precisely nothing.
Mark 7
18“Are you still so dull?” He asked. “Do you not understand? Nothing that enters a man from the outside can defile him, 19because it does not enter his heart, but it goes into the stomach and then is eliminated.” (Thus all foods are clean.) 20He continued: “What comes out of a man, that is what defiles him.…

You've quoted some of this yourself. It's not helpful to go past the scriptures.

One particular denomination promotes vegetarianism. They base it on Adam's diet in Eden. I have news. We are no longer there. God gave Noah permission to eat meat, Abel was herdsman, Israel ate the Passover lamb........need I go on?

 

[Blik]

It seems to me that the Lord tells it plainly exactly as it is. What goes in the stomach is eliminated but what goes in the mind is not and can damage.

We think our books that turn sex from "the two shall become one" to a matter of satisfying lust, and our murder mysteries that make murders riddle solving entertainment into things that endanger and damage us.

Our food we eat today is all processed and changed from how God created it, so they have created damaging food by tampering with the ways of God. As examples, anything with fats is homogenized, Any grain is refined not left whole, any meat is fed by how man decides, not how the Lord created them to eat. Oils are seldom pressed,but treated by man's decisions.

 

[de-emerald]

One particular denomination promotes vegetarianism. They base it on Adam's diet in Eden. I have news. We are no longer there. God gave Noah permission to eat meat, Abel was herdsman, Israel ate the Passover lamb........need I go on?

Your talking about this scripture
The Sixth Day genesis
…28God blessed them and said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth and subdue it; rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air and every creature that crawls upon the earth.” 29Then God said, “Behold, I have given you every seed-bearing plant on the face of all the earth, and every tree whose fruit contains seed. They will be yours for food. 30And to every beast of the earth and every bird of the air and every creature that crawls upon the earth—everything that has the breath of life in it—I have given every green plant for food.” And it was so.…

Why should we need animal meet if plant food is sufficient and have you ever tried it ?

 

[de-emerald]

It seems to me that the Lord tells it plainly exactly as it is. What goes in the stomach is eliminated but what goes in the mind is not and can damage.

We think our books that turn sex from "the two shall become one" to a matter of satisfying lust, and our murder mysteries that make murders riddle solving entertainment into things that endanger and damage us.

Our food we eat today is all processed and changed from how God created it, so they have created damaging food by tampering with the ways of God. As examples, anything with fats is homogenized, Any grain is refined not left whole, any meat is fed by how man decides, not how the Lord created them to eat. Oils are seldom pressed,but treated by man's decisions.

This is the trouble with processed foods, the other trouble with processed foods is the retailers put all sorts of ingredients in them to make them addictive. you end up becoming addicted,, which can then lead to glutony or greed and of cause obesity. its the same for animal fat its highly addictive food... they use sheep fat in lots of addictive processed foods

 

[p_rehbein]

Regarding the question in the OP

Seriously? Have you ever actually READ the Bible?

The passage you are speaking of is dealing with the SPIRITUAL defilement of man. That which would cause him to lose eternal life.......not if he PIGGS OUT on Tacos, or any such.

 

[de-emerald]

Regarding the question in the OP

Seriously? Have you ever actually READ the Bible?

The passage you are speaking of is dealing with the SPIRITUAL defilement of man. That which would cause him to lose eternal life.......not if he PIGGS OUT on Tacos, or any such.

hey alas i was hoping someone might give this answer. is it possible then what comes out of a person from spiritual possession may be defiling, I put this option under answer yes. but not in the case of food in the poll, meaning yes there are things that will defile your body. so could you explain why your self you think this scripture is related to spiritual possession ? only. and what is your intake on spiritual possessiond defiling your body and what omes out of your body ?.

And what may be your answer on spiritual opression causing a person to act defiling too ?

Its up to you if you want to answer without being insulting and rude like you allready have been if you can which would mean taking your thoughts captive if you could.

 

[de-emerald]

@p_rehbein or anyone else please feal welcome to answer

For some reason i dont think its right that based on the scripture your refering to, that spiritual possession can lead to losing eternal life. Please explain why you think this scripture means that spiritual possession also means you can lose eternal life. This is the scripture your refering to which comes imeadiately after what comes out of a person can defile them ? spiritual possesion can make a person take there own life in other passages.

The Faith of a Canaanite Woman
21 Leaving that place, Jesus withdrew to the region of Tyre and Sidon. 22 A Canaanite woman from that vicinity came to him, crying out, “Lord, Son of David, have mercy on me! My daughter is demon-possessed and suffering terribly.”


23 Jesus did not answer a word. So his disciples came to him and urged him, “Send her away, for she keeps crying out after us.”


24 He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.”


25 The woman came and knelt before him. “Lord, help me!” she said.


26 He replied, “It is not right to take the children’s bread and toss it to the dogs.”


27 “Yes it is, Lord,” she said. “Even the dogs eat the crumbs that fall from their master’s table.”


28 Then Jesus said to her, “Woman, you have great faith! Your request is granted.” And her daughter was healed at that moment.

Please tell me why you feal this scripture means spiritual possesion can lead to losing eternal life. so we can discuss this. and hopefully discuss this with out attacking each other if where wrong.. so if i feal your wrong i will not attack you i will post scripture to question your idea.
i would appreciate it if you and others could do the same thing.. its about time i think.

I know of a couple of possible reasons why people may think this, .. but i personaly dont think this idea is full proof and it should be dicussed in a cival manner

 

[gb9]

so. the person who thinks that smoking will lead someone to hell thinks that eating certain foods will to.

what a joke theology ...

i am planning on watching college football this weekend. wanna tell how satanic that is????

 

[de-emerald]

so. the person who thinks that smoking will lead someone to hell thinks that eating certain foods will to.

what a joke theology ...

i am planning on watching college football this weekend. wanna tell how satanic that is????

who is this aimed at ? you have the wrong perception of me. but since you mention it the greed that is in the game of american football is satanic.. and so is the vanity.

 

[gb9]

who is this aimed at ? you have the wrong perception of me. but since you mention it the greed that is in the game of american football is satanic.. and so is the vanity.

just the answer i expected.

i won't clog up this thread by arguing . gb9 out.

 

[John146]

Mathew 15:11
What Defiles a Man
10Jesus called the crowd to Him and said, “Listen and understand. 11A man is not defiled by what enters his mouth, but by what comes out of it.” i have included a poll here where by you can vote multiple answers

Has anyone give this scripture much thought and wondered if this scripture is miss represented because people seem to use this scripture for everything they put into their body, i mean is that safe to do so ?. Does what go into a man or woman defile a man or woman as well as what comes out of a man or woman for some things .. Surely for something to come out of your body which is defiling that something which is defiling must have Gone into the body in the first place what ever it may be. Whether it be language or anything else

I also want to talk about animals but not make it the whole point of the thread, on why is it that humans are also referred to as animals in the bible. Surely we must be all plant eaters and not flesh eaters as the bible says for every animal on the face of the earth i have given green plant food,, I have been talking to vegi vegans on forums lately and many agree they have had a better conscience since becoming a vegan vegi.. I thought i would add this because since stopping eating animal flesh i have felt more pleasant in mind and my bodies digestive system seems more at peace, so perhaps animal flesh could be defiling my body.. Its only been one week since i stopped eating meat, and the temptation to eat a McDonald's beef burgers have been a nightmare. And I'm on the verge of cracking up at times i feel the temptations to eat meat are coming from the devil..

Mathew 15:11
What Defiles a Man
10Jesus called the crowd to Him and said, “Listen and understand. 11A man is not defiled by what enters his mouth, but by what comes out of it.”
has anyone actualy wondered whether this scripture is warning that what can come out of you can be defiling ? and its not just related to not what you put in and is only related to what language comes out of your mouth ?.

For a Jew under the law? Aboslutely!

The body of Christ? Nope, we've been circumcised from the flesh.

 

[de-emerald]

just the answer i expected.

i won't clog up this thread by arguing . gb9 out.

thats just a a bit unfair and i will pray for you to have spiritual awareness. If you where looking for trouble to begin by saying that was the answer you where expecting from me then once again i would advice you to pray and seek spiritual guidance.. because my intensions are not the ideas you have in mind.

In the game of american football there are many people at risk from the devil. in the op of this thread my concerns are for the people who are at risk from the devils decievement.. your perception is you think i am condeming people when i am not.. or you feal accused by me.. so you can join in if you want.. i am not here to atack you or anyone else. but i am getting tired of people attacking others for no reason.. its about time we can talk about being wrong or who we feel is wrong without taking it personal. because we can all be in the wrong that is all.

 

[de-emerald]

For a Jew under the law? Aboslutely!

The body of Christ? Nope, we've been circumcised from the flesh.

God giving mankind plant food to live on is classed as being under a law ?.. are you sure God was not saying that plant food is sufficent for you to live on ?... Isnt Gods law unmerited favor ?

 

[JaumeJ]

Here Jesus Yeshua declares all foods clean in declaring that nothing by entering into the stomach will defile the body, rather it is only what proceeds from that heart of MAN that can. If his heart is good only good will proceed from it. If his heart is evil , nothing GOOD rather only evil will be projected.
Do not look for doughs in an adder's nest

 

[de-emerald]

Here Jesus Yeshua declares all foods clean in declaring that nothing by entering into the stomach will defile the body, rather it is only what proceeds from that heart of MAN that can. If his heart is good only good will proceed from it. If his heart is evil , nothing GOOD rather only evil will be projected.
Do not look for doughs in an adder's nest

your missing the point which many people do.
Jesus said all foods can be expelled from the stomach,, but didnt go into detail of what can happen if you keep on eating unclean food or foods you dont really need to eat, such as you dont really need to go on eating meet if plant food is available and Jesus didnt go into detail about the medicine of all foods..

Because if he had he would have told you that the food that you eat does enter into the heart as well as the stomach.. for all foods are broken down in the stomach and the contents out of the food is taken and goes into the blood veins of your body and the flesh of your body and other content from food is expelled.. its is only the minerals and vitimins from food that live in your blood that keep you alive and the fatty acids from foods that live in your flesh from food that keep you alive,, this is why you can fast for 40 days...

 

[JaumeJ]

Gee, sorry.

I have been taught by Jesus Yeshua that nothing by entering the mouth can defile ap persone for the very reason you have repeated fromHim. It enters the stomach and goies out the other way.
This was His declaration of all things clean.

 

[DavidTree]

Mathew 15:11
What Defiles a Man
10Jesus called the crowd to Him and said, “Listen and understand. 11A man is not defiled by what enters his mouth, but by what comes out of it.” i have included a poll here where by you can vote multiple answers

Has anyone give this scripture much thought and wondered if this scripture is miss represented because people seem to use this scripture for everything they put into their body, i mean is that safe to do so ?. Does what go into a man or woman defile a man or woman as well as what comes out of a man or woman for some things .. Surely for something to come out of your body which is defiling that something which is defiling must have Gone into the body in the first place what ever it may be. Whether it be language or anything else

I also want to talk about animals but not make it the whole point of the thread, on why is it that humans are also referred to as animals in the bible. Surely we must be all plant eaters and not flesh eaters as the bible says for every animal on the face of the earth i have given green plant food,, I have been talking to vegi vegans on forums lately and many agree they have had a better conscience since becoming a vegan vegi.. I thought i would add this because since stopping eating animal flesh i have felt more pleasant in mind and my bodies digestive system seems more at peace, so perhaps animal flesh could be defiling my body.. Its only been one week since i stopped eating meat, and the temptation to eat a McDonald's beef burgers have been a nightmare. And I'm on the verge of cracking up at times i feel the temptations to eat meat are coming from the devil..

Mathew 15:11
What Defiles a Man
10Jesus called the crowd to Him and said, “Listen and understand. 11A man is not defiled by what enters his mouth, but by what comes out of it.”
has anyone actualy wondered whether this scripture is warning that what can come out of you can be defiling ? and its not just related to not what you put in and is only related to what language comes out of your mouth ?.

Christ is addressing three things - the natural versus the supernatural and defilement = that which defiles a person before God

Natural : We must eat food to keep our temporal bodies alive and healthy - food does not defile us before God
It goes in our gut and comes out the butt = " but it goes into the stomach and then is eliminated"

Supernatural: "The power of life and death is in the tongue"
DEATH:
And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity. The tongue is so set among our members that it defiles the whole body, and sets on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire by hell.

LIFE:
I will declare Your name to My brethren; In the midst of the assembly I will praise You.
speaking to one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord,
always giving thanks to God the Father for everything in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ.…

DEFILEMENT:
Why do you not understand what I am saying? It is because you are unable to accept My message. You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out his desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, refusing to uphold the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, because he is a liar and the father of lies.

DECISIONS - What will you do?:
Every word of God is flawless;
He is a shield to those who take refuge in Him.
Do not add to His words,
lest He rebuke you and prove you a liar. Proverbs 30:5-6

I testify to everyone who hears the words of prophecy in this book: If anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book. And if anyone takes away from the words of this book of prophecy, God will take away his share in the tree of life and the holy city, which are described in this book. Revelation 22:18-19

LIFE ETERNAL
The Spirit and the Bride say, “Come!” Let the one who hears say, “Come!” And let the one who is thirsty come, and the one who desires the water of life drink freely.

 

[de-emerald]

i have to ask the question Did Jesus actually say the words all food is clean from mark 7:19

I have to ask this @JaumeJ from the translation of the kjv because that is known as the nearest to the original texts.. so here it is.. maybe some well educated bible scholar can bring up original texts for us and explain it and we can study it further
KJ21
because it entereth not into his heart, but into the belly and goeth out into the drain, thereby purging all meats?”

Ok this verse has been translated to 10 different meanings at least...

my understanding of this one sentence in modern day times is all food you eat can be expelled from the body.. but actually youmay need to fast for a few days to expell the toxins you get from food when they get to high in your body.. many modern day diets now have a one day fast a week from food that is working very well for people.

could this be the reason why Jesus fasted for 40 days because scripture does not say why he fasted for 40 days.. and also scripture does not say the dangers of what can happen if toxins from food get to high in your body or the signs of them getting to high. all tho scripture does indicate this, it isnt pacific. and toxins gettting to high inyour body can cause all sorts of unrest in your body from anything you put in your body. And where does unrest lead to ?

 

[de-emerald]

i would actually go further than this @JaumeJ and say it may take months to fully expell some toxins from the body from foods or other stuff that can go in,, and as in some things years such as chemicals befor there expelled from the stomach. and in other cases some poeple are permantly diseased from chemicals that have gone into there body