Have churches become too reliant on recovery programs and psychology/psychiatry?

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Perhaps you are confusing mixed-up biology with mixed-up identity. There are actually cases of the former, which have nothing whatsoever to do with the current cultural confusion over gender.
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i won't judge: but it never been a gender issue. Rather it's always a question of sin.The exception where those that needed 2 b heal as a testimony
 
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sorry 4 my pride but we r not here 2 learn in that sense but 2 try 2 help u guys. u guys r running out of humans
 
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All sickness, accidents, lack etc., anything that isn't love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, gentleness, faithfulness and self control must be from the adversaries realm. "Chemical imbalance" is not from God, it may be the smokescreen the adversary uses to hide His attack on health, and medicine might help but never sent anyone to the Dr. , He never said "this ones too tough for me", the Gettering (sp?) demoniac included.
Out of His kindness He may allow Drs. to help some, but we must NEVER place them above or give first place over Jehovah Rapha, the God who heals us.
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It seems that you have completely overlooked the Fall, and the fact that Adam's sin resulted in untold effects on the entire creation. It is narrow at best to claim that everything other than the fruit of the Holy Spirit is "from the adversaries (sic) realm". The truth is that we live in a fallen world where people get sick and accidents happen. Scripture even states that God is the Author of calamity. Let's not give the enemy more credit than he is due; that only results in confusion.
 
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If we 2 tute r owm horn r we false witnesses?
 
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Dino246 said:
Perhaps you are confusing mixed-up biology with mixed-up identity. There are actually cases of the former, which have nothing whatsoever to do with the current cultural confusion over gender.
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How have the people of God become so entangled with the things of this world?
 
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rayzor said:
i won't judge: but it never been a gender issue. Rather it's always a question of sin.The exception where those that needed 2 b heal as a testimony
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Bluntly, you're dead wrong.

Some people are born with messed-up genitalia. Deal with it respectfully instead of calling it "sin".
 
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How have the people of God become so entangled with the things of this world?
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I'm not following your meaning. Perhaps you could explain?
 
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Dino246 said:
Bluntly, you're dead wrong.

Some people are born with messed-up genitalia. Deal with it respectfully instead of calling it "sin".
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Some people? Is it about .00000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% of all humanity?
 
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Dino246 said:
I'm not following your meaning. Perhaps you could explain?
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I often feel like I'm looking at comments on CNN or Fox News, not a Christian forum. So many people here are focused on the world and not the Lord.
 
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Dino246 said:
Bluntly, you're dead wrong.

Some people are born with messed-up genitalia. Deal with it respectfully instead of calling it "sin".
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If i did that i would be lying 2 u and me.If u deem me not past forgiveness pray that god show me the truth k?
 
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HisKid said:
Some people? Is it about .00000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% of all humanity?
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I like your optimism, but not your ignorance... or your snark.
 
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HisKid said:
I often feel like I'm looking at comments on CNN or Fox News, not a Christian forum. So many people here are focused on the world and not the Lord.
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Some people? Is it about .00000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% of all humanity?
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Uh huh. Lovely to see you exemplify your own criticism.
 
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rayzor said:
If i did that i would be lying 2 u and me.If u deem me not past forgiveness pray that god show me the truth k?
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Ah, so in your mind, the baby born blind or with a deformed arm is merely unfortunate, but the baby born with deformed genitalia is a sinner?

Dude, that's sick.
 
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It is extremely rare that a child is born with both male and female genitals, so the argument is hardly valid.
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If you want to put carefully-worded parameters on my statement so that you come out looking correct, you go right ahead. I see right through it.
 
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Dino246 said:
Ah, so in your mind, the baby born blind or with a deformed arm is merely unfortunate, but the baby born with deformed genitalia is a sinner?

Dude, that's sick.
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Why is this such a thing for you? Were you born with deformed genitals? I mean, this isn't even a subject worth discussing because it is so rare it is not even on the radar.
 
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Dino246 said:
If you want to put carefully-worded parameters on my statement so that you come out looking correct, you go right ahead. I see right through it.
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See through what? Are you a deformed genitalia person? I don't understand the passion about this. It's creepy.
 
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Dino246 said:
Ah, so in your mind, the baby born blind or with a deformed arm is merely unfortunate, but the baby born with deformed genitalia is a sinner?

Dude, that's sick.
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your reading in 2 things i think. [all r born dead because of sin if we can die 2 the old nature then we can live.This happens buy faith in god.
 
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It is impossible to rewrite the words of the men who lived the history when those words are preserved for us. There are letters Constantine wrote, the man who changed the church in he year 313, and the laws that he made. There are the writings of the leaders of the churches of the first 300 years of the church, the actual words they wrote. These things cannot be changed,even by you.
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I have witnessed many changes in the English languages in just my life time.
 
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