Has a lie crept in to our bible Does God allow demons to torment people

[AandW]

Yup and now your becoming resentful to me, i asked you nicely in the name of Jesus to be particapate and this is your reply, this is out of character for. you. that is all.

I ill stand by word of Jesus, Jesus said to satan do not tempt God. and get away from me.

That is not what happened in Job 1, satan tempted God, and no where does God say get way from me and do not tempt God. One of them is a lie.

How do you know it was not God, who was tempting Satan,, by mentioning Job to Satan, and not other way around?
Maybe, God, wanted this knowledge found in the Book of Job to be read for us to glean and gain insight from?

 

[Nehemiah6]

Demons have more power than God in the sinner who believes his lies. that is clear from scripture.

That is not the issue you have presented. You have claimed that the Bible has been changed by demons to misrepresent God, even though God and Christ are sovereign. While it is true that a handful of very corrupt manuscripts exists, 95-99% of the Bible and its manuscripts are genuine. So you have brought up a non-issue.

 

[Rolly]

It’s extremely simple GOD IS HOLY! HIS WORD IS PERFECT! everything else flows from that Truth, no matter the claim the belief or the mystery. Period.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

To suggest this is the reason why God gives satan permission to do as much evil as he likes is an Absolute stinking lie from the pits of hells that gives power to satan, i can tell you satanists who worship the beast love this passage and get off on it. The dragon came down to kill Jesus as a baby and failed.
Heres a better account for you from a biblical scholar.

Many people heard the wonderful story of Christ’s incarnation, and some understood it for the very first time. But the version of the Christmas story that most haven’t heard, the one that even many Christians don’t seem to understand is the one found in Revelation 12.
It is this account that guards Matthew’s and Luke’s from the dangers of sentimentality. It keeps our vision of the incarnation from getting dislodged from the broader drama of redemption. And it reminds us that Christ’s Advent to earth was nothing less than a strategic, decisive military move in the raging cosmic battle between darkness and light. This is the full-orbed Christmas story that we need reminding of all year round.
Let’s look at this passage, think about the cast of characters, and then ponder three important lessons for today.
And a great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars. 2 She was pregnant and was crying out in birth pains and the agony of giving birth. 3 And another sign appeared in heaven: behold, a great red dragon, with seven heads and ten horns, and on his heads seven diadems. 4 His tail swept down a third of the stars of heaven and cast them to the earth. And the dragon stood before the woman who was about to give birth, so that when she bore her child he might devour it. 5 She gave birth to a male child, one who is to rule all the nations with a rod of iron, but her child was caught up to God and to his throne, 6 and the woman fled into the wilderness, where she has a place prepared by God, in which she is to be nourished for 1,260 days.
7 Now war arose in heaven, Michael and his angels fighting against the dragon. And the dragon and his angels fought back, 8 but he was defeated, and there was no longer any place for them in heaven. 9 And the great dragon was thrown down, that ancient serpent, who is called the devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world—he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him. 10 And I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, “Now the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God and the authority of his Christ have come, for the accuser of our brothers has been thrown down, who accuses them day and night before our God. 11 And they have conquered him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, for they loved not their lives even unto death. 12 Therefore, rejoice, O heavens and you who dwell in them! But woe to you, O earth and sea, for the devil has come down to you in great wrath, because he knows that his time is short!”
13 And when the dragon saw that he had been thrown down to the earth, he pursued the woman who had given birth to the male child. 14 But the woman was given the two wings of the great eagle so that she might fly from the serpent into the wilderness, to the place where she is to be nourished for a time, and times, and half a time. 15 The serpent poured water like a river out of his mouth after the woman, to sweep her away with a flood. 16 But the earth came to the help of the woman, and the earth opened its mouth and swallowed the river that the dragon had poured from his mouth. 17 Then the dragon became furious with the woman and went off to make war on the rest of her offspring, on those who keep the commandments of God and hold to the testimony of Jesus. And he stood on the sand of the sea. (Revelation 12:1)
There are three main characters in this passage: the woman, the dragon, and the child.
The woman (described in vv. 1-2) is clothed with the sun, with the moon is beneath her feet, and seven stars crowning her head. Who is she? Probably not Mary, but Israel. Verse 2 has clear echoes of Genesis 37, the passage about Joseph’s dream where the twelve stars represented the twelve sons of Jacob. John seems to be identifying this woman with Israel, God’s covenant people. The woman’s pregnancy and agonizing birth pangs point to the sufferings of God’s people as they awaited the Messiah, but also deeply resonated with the suffering saints who originally read Revelation.
Verse 3 introduces another character, a “great red dragon” possessed of both worldly power (all those heads and crowns!) and deep, unrelenting hatred and hostility towards the woman and her child. If it wasn’t already clear, verse 9 removes all doubt: the dragon is “the ancient serpent” the devil himself, “Satan, the deceiver of the whole world.” This not only identifies him with the serpent in Genesis 3, but also shows his antagonism towards God’s people, and especially towards the child of the woman, whom he seeks to devour.
And who might this child be? Read verse 5 again:“She gave birth to a male child, one who is to rule all the nations with a rod of iron, but her child was caught up to God and to his throne.” This, of course, is Jesus the Messiah.
So what’s going on here? This passage uses heavily symbolic language to describe Satan’s attempts to destroy the Christ. Remember the massacre in Bethlehem? Remember the forty days in the wilderness? Remember the crucifixion?
But John is sounding another note as well. He says that this child rules the nations with a rod of iron (quoting Psalm 2) and is snatched up to God and his throne. Far from being destroyed by the dragon, this child shares the throne of God! This child is none other than Jesus the Christ (v. 10), the crucified Lamb (v. 11), the resurrected, exalted, and enthroned King.
But what does it all mean? Revelation is notoriously difficult to understand – so weird, in fact, that most of us just avoid it altogether. And yet, it is still God’s word for the church. And though interpreters may disagree on some of the details, the main point is clear and contains three very important lessons for us. continued

see ? You don’t hear what o her people say

we gave Satan dominion on earth God gave it to US

“And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion….. upon the earth.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭1:26‬ ‭

in other words

“The heaven, even the heavens, are the Lord's:

but the earth hath he given to the children of men.”
‭‭Psalm‬ ‭115:16‬ ‭KJV‬‬

this is who we followed and gave our dominion to

“And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil. And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.

And the Lord God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever: Therefore the Lord God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken. So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭3:4-6, 22-24‬ ‭

this then was the result

“And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. And it repented the Lord that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.

The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence. And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth. And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭6:5-6, 11-13‬ ‭

it’s as if you can’t hear what I’m saying and continually argue against what I didn’t say We gave Satan the dominion God made us for and gave to us from the start so Now

“In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth; And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.”
‭‭2 Timothy‬ ‭2:25-26‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Christ has offered us freedom again and dominion over Satan again but of course few will believe and some seem just want to create arguments where they don’t actually even hear what the other person says d argue against what hey invent

WE GAVE SATAN HIS FOOTHOLD

God has been telling us how to be free and saved but we keep rejecting him

“Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.

If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.”
‭‭John‬ ‭8:31-32, 34, 36‬ ‭

everyone who has ever sinned is because the devil offers them temptation and evil understanding and they accept it but Christ is the measure of truth

“Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.”
‭‭John‬ ‭14:6‬ ‭KJV‬‬

we now have to turn to God or we’re going to be lost

 

[Pilgrimshope]

It’s extremely simple GOD IS HOLY! HIS WORD IS PERFECT! everything else flows from that Truth, no matter the claim the belief or the mystery. Period.

Amen ! holy holy holy

“And the glory of the Lord shall be revealed, and all flesh shall see it together: for the mouth of the Lord hath spoken it.

The voice said, Cry. And he said, What shall I cry?

All flesh is grass, and all the goodliness thereof is as the flower of the field:…The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: but the word of our God shall stand for ever.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭40:5-6, 8‬ ‭

“But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot: Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you, Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God.

Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently:

Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever. For all flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away: But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you.”
‭‭1 Peter‬ ‭1:19-25‬ ‭

 

[Dino246]

I read the whole of the holy quran ...

The Quran is NOT holy.

 

[Absolutely]

Nope people kill them selfs because they believe the lies of the antichrist.(believing it as come from God)
then the anti christ takes over there mind. Youve got it the other way round. which gives power to Satan, which is what he wants you to believe, that God has enpowered him to be the tempter, thus forcing us to unknowingly worshipping the beast. Thats about it where by we are unknowingly worshiping the beast in his wierd way of his reasoning, he then puts his mark upon us, he forces the wrong belief and our worship by combining Good with evil.

It says he overcomes the saints.
Stop acting like you know what you are talking about.

 

[AandW]

 

[de-emerald]

That is not the issue you have presented. You have claimed that the Bible has been changed by demons to misrepresent God, even though God and Christ are sovereign. While it is true that a handful of very corrupt manuscripts exists, 95-99% of the Bible and its manuscripts are genuine. So you have brought up a non-issue.

Nope im a christian who follows the word of Jesus only. Im saying demons tell us lies and decieve peoples minds. in effect your now saying that isnt true when you believe there lies. I know thats not entirely your fault.
Along with all the other miss repersentations Of God from demons in our bible i have showed you, ill show you two more clear lies of demons in our bible.
Ill show you two passages in our bible, where by demons here are messing with peoples heads in the bible, where by demons where miss repersenting God in our bible and Getting away with it. because its not put right with imediate interpretation exposing there deceptive abilities and reasons for there deception

4. Supernatural Knowledge of a person they possess

In one incident, the demons speaking through a man, immediately recognized Jesus as the Messiah. Just then there was in their synagogue a man with an unclean spirit, and he cried out,"What have You to do with us, Jesus of Nazareth? Have You come to destroy us? I know who You are, the Holy One of God" (Mark 1:23-24).

So please notice here the demon says i know who you are Jesus. next verse ill show you the exact oppersite.

Mathew 4
5 Then the devil took him to the holy city and had him stand on the highest point of the temple and said . 6 “If you are the Son of God,” he said, “throw yourself down. of that cliff:

Please notice this is satan leader of the demons quite clealy saying he doesnt know who Jesus is and says If you are the son of God, notice the word if, If means befor i believe you are the son of God you have to prove to me you are the son of God. there should be an imediate interpretation here in Mathew 4 to say here you see the lies of satan. he does know me, but hes trying to convince i can survive a huge fall of the cliff. and i should do that to prove im the son of God. (satan want to kill God not obey him)
Remember Jesus was killed on the cross so there are somethings in the body that would kill Jesus. like falling of a great big cliff.

Ok so the reasons for theese lies is because this is what demons do. they lie. they lie that much that they slip up every where in our bible. Jesus christ told us this.

Speaking to a group of Jews, Jesus says, “You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies” (John 8:44). Notice Jesus say Satan was a murderer from the beginning, what story does that remind you of ? Well its Job 1. Jesus is telling us he murdered in Job 1 too. because that was the beginning and the beginning of his murders. which means Jesus has come down from heaven to tell us the truth about what satan did in Job 1. and putting that truth right with the Jews. who believed his lie. that Gods allows him to murder, which God doesnt.

Notice also Jesus call him the father of all lies and there is no truth him. now lets read Job 1 with the thought in mind that Satan is the father of all lies.

The words of satan
Job 1 9 “Does Job fear God for nothing?” Satan replied. 10 “Have you not put a hedge around him and his household and everything he has? You have blessed the work of his hands, so that his flocks and herds are spread throughout the land. 11 But now stretch out your hand and strike everything he has, and he will surely curse you to your face.”

This is satan asking God to take everything of Job to prove he can curse you (pure hatred and Jeoalousy is what made satan ask God this, that i know in my heart Jesus would spot straight away and say get away from me satan, because satan is puffed up with pride and wont accept rebuke for his wrong doing, he is all about proving everyone else is bad. this is the same type of temptation in mathew 4 where by satan is asking Jesus to prove something. Jesus says to satan in mathew 4 do not test the lord your God. there is no mention of satan being told to not test the lord your God in the story of Job 1.

God oposes the proud which is exactly how satan is proud. God went to battle against Satan in the heavens because of his proudness. and cast him down to earth for that reason.

A person who is possessed by a demon finds it diffacult to control there words and thoughts.

We also find demons speaking through people.

Just then there was in their synagogue a man with an unclean spirit, and he cried out, "What have You to do with us, Jesus of Nazareth? Have You come to destroy us? I know who You are, the Holy One of God" (Mark 1:23-24).

A person who is under the control of a demon cannot control themselves. The evil spirit is able to speak through their lips or can make them mute as it so desires. Scripture gives examples of demon-possessed people who were mute.
And when the demon was cast out, the mute man spoke: and the multitudes marveled, saying, It was never so seen in Israel (Matthew 9:33).
Then was brought unto Him one possessed with a demon, blind and mute: and He healed him, in so much that the mute man spoke and saw (Matthew 12:22).

Here we a demon speaking theough a persons lips meaning they have took over the mind of a person. we then see Jesus rescuing that person.

Im saying that in some parts of Job 1 a demon possessed man has Gone unoticed with missing interpretation of that. that is what i am saying.

Demons want to destroy everything that belongs to God, demons cause people to stumble and sin then play God and blame the persons and get other people to blame them for there a wrong doing the demon has caused the person to do.

6. Suicidal Tendencies

Demon possession can lead to suicidal tendencies. The Bible says of one person who was demon-possessed. It has often cast him into the fire and into the water, to destroy him; but if you are able to do anything, have pity on us and help us (Mark 9:22). the demon here would say its his own fault he commited suciside after the caused the person to become depressed.

It seems that demons want to physically destroy the person they possess.

Jesus calls demons a stumbling block

23 Jesus turned and said to Peter, “Get behind me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to me; you do not have in mind the concerns of God, but merely human concerns.”

Demons where told obey God Because when God commands them to leave a person they leave ?
But Satan came down from Heaven to kill God as a baby and failed. this is hardly obeying God is it. For goodness sake they wanted to kill him because they had an opertunity to because he was a vunerable baby and defenceless in some aspects. God the father sent his angels to rescue him.

This puts the whole rapture belief into question. as what would have happened if satan would have killed Jesus as a baby. i tell you what would have happened, we would never have known the true deception of Demons. and the master plan of Jesus would have been dwarfed by satan.

Plus here we see a scripture that says Satan did know who Jesus was in our bible but yet in mathew 4 he claims he doesnt know him.

Mathew 4
5 Then the devil took him to the holy city and had him stand on the highest point of the temple and said . 6 “If you are the Son of God,” he said, “throw yourself down. of that cliff:

 

[de-emerald]

It says he overcomes the saints.
Stop acting like you know what you are talking about.

Which saints does the devil over come. and stop being insulting and let us discuss. or ill get my bow out there ya go.

 

[de-emerald]

The Quran is NOT holy.

That really is a blatant attempt to cast doubt on me, seariously.. ok the quran is not holy. there you go sorry once again lol

 

[de-emerald]

How do you know it was not God, who was tempting Satan,, by mentioning Job to Satan, and not other way around?
Maybe, God, wanted this knowledge found in the Book of Job to be read for us to glean and gain insight from?

Because i go by all the other accounts about demons from Jesus that suggests God does not entertain Satan in any way. and will not have unclean spirits in his heaven.

I aslo understand that satan wants to exalt him self higher that God. as written in Isaiah.
which means he wants to be worshiped as God decieving nations.

And i also understand demons mentality of combining Good with evil is his plan to be worshipped as God. But many dont see that plan. this is why so many people have a hard time working scripture out. because in places of our bible Good has been combined with evil and a blessing has become a curse. the two are seperate, for scripture says the darkness has never ever never ever understood the light. a curse as no place in a blessing. our holy spirit is a blessing

There for evil has no part with Goodness.

Isaiah tells us WOE to those people who call good evil and evil bad. this is also a future prophecy of how people will believe in the future, valid for today. that was fortold thousands of years ago and much as happened in scripture since then.

There are endless accounts of a blessing becoming a curse in our bible. thus why so many use the lords name in vane. there is enough interpretation to stop a blessing becoming a curse in our bible. but its all seperated into different time periods.

Deuteronomy 11:26
“See, I am setting before you today a blessing and a curse:

Deuteronomy 11:27
the blessing, if you listen to the commandments of the Lord your God, which I am commanding you today;

Deuteronomy 30:19
I call heaven and earth to witness against you today, that I have set before you life and death, the blessing and the curse. So choose life in order that you may live, you and your descendants,

Luke 6:28
bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you.

James 3:10
from the same mouth come both blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not to be this way.

 

[de-emerald]

Amen ! holy holy holy

“And the glory of the Lord shall be revealed, and all flesh shall see it together: for the mouth of the Lord hath spoken it.

The voice said, Cry. And he said, What shall I cry?

All flesh is grass, and all the goodliness thereof is as the flower of the field:…The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: but the word of our God shall stand for ever.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭40:5-6, 8‬ ‭

“But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot: Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you, Who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God.

Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently:

Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever. For all flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away: But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you.”
‭‭1 Peter‬ ‭1:19-25‬ ‭

This is a great post

 

[de-emerald]

@AandW slight miss typo oops Isaiah tells us WOE to those people who call good evil and evil good.

 

[de-emerald]

I don’t really know how to respond to you , you don’t seem to hear what others have to say and certainly don’t want to know what’s in scripture

“And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him? And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven. And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. If any man have an ear, let him hear.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭13:4-9‬ ‭KJV‬‬

You should consider hearing rather than speaking sometimes because God made a way out of that situation above This situation the church Faces


“And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭12:17‬ ‭KJV‬‬


“Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour: Whom resist stedfast in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world.”
‭‭1 Peter‬ ‭5:8-9‬ ‭KJV‬‬


you don’t understand what I think because you don’t open your ears to scripture we mankind allowed Satan his dominion when we followed his rule rather than Gods

we are the ones who allowed Satan power not God he has given us the gospel to give us back freedom and doninion so we can overcome Satan and the world

I don’t think you get what I say usually so when you respond with things like this ot just continually wastes time when you invite me and then repetitively go to try same things nothing involving scripture but visions you had from the quoran and how the Bible is full of lies

you think that because you aren’t willing to believe it so to you “it must not be true it’s lies “ because you don’t understand it .

the key is to understand that you have things wrong , and I have things wrong , and Jesus has things right , the scripture is meant to change what you think and believe it’s not that you are supposed to correct the Bible but you are supposed to conform your belief to what it says that’s why belief saves is because it changes us at thy core

I cant possably begin to answer all your points just now, as you havent even aknowledge some great points of view from a biblical scholar, and the best reasoning i have ever herd of revalation. which clearly suggests that being accused by satan is not authorised from God, because hes the horrible tempter befor he becomes the horrible accuser. he the makes the person stumble then becomes the accuser.

revalation calls him the accuser,, your looking at the word accuser in the wrong way. his accusing is proud and torment on the person he has made stumble.
10 And I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, “Now the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God and the authority of his Christ have come, for the accuser of our brothers has been thrown down, who accuses them day and night before our God. 11 And they have conquered him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, for they loved not their lives even unto death. 12 Therefore, rejoice, O heavens and you who dwell in them!

Satan is horrible tempter who becomes the horrible accuser for mankind and the destroyer of minds which is his wrath on the world after witnessing the birth of Jesus he went this way,

perhaps your looking a revalation in the wrong light.

 

[Absolutely]

Which saints does the devil over come. and stop being insulting and let us discuss. or ill get my bow out there ya go.

I know what it says.
I dont threaten you.

You make threats.

You are not of God.

You think i am your enemy


But you have made satan so powerful in your mind that your " special revelation" has you actually reframing the word of God.
You even think satan corrupted Gods word.

The bible ends with the declaration of the pretrib rapture.
The closing thoughts of Gods word is the rapture.

 

[Absolutely]

It would be one thing if you were in here to exchange thoughts.
But you see yourself as an authority with "special revelation"

Correcting anyone and everyone in here.

In fact you believe ANYONE not making the grand canyon leap with you into some " special revelation" is basically a demon.

You demonize most everything

You also claim a revelation that NO OTHER CHRISTIAN possesses.

Nope
Not buying it for a second.

Any curses you hurl at me are immediately returning to you.

My bible says " an undeserved curse can not find rest."

Dont even think witchcraft can have any effect on me.
Zero
The blood is sufficient and my God is up to any task.
You can not touch me at all.

 

[de-emerald]

I know what it says.
I dont threaten you.

You make threats.

You are not of God.

You think i am your enemy


But you have made satan so powerful in your mind that your " special revelation" has you actually reframing the word of God.
You even think satan corrupted Gods word.

The bible ends with the declaration of the pretrib rapture.
The closing thoughts of Gods word is the rapture.

 

[de-emerald]

It would be one thing if you were in here to exchange thoughts.
But you see yourself as an authority with "special revelation"

Correcting anyone and everyone in here.

In fact you believe ANYONE not making the grand canyon leap with you into some " special revelation" is basically a demon.

You demonize most everything

You also claim a revelation that NO OTHER CHRISTIAN possesses.

Nope
Not buying it for a second.

Any curses you hurl at me are immediately returning to you.

My bible says " an undeserved curse can not find rest."

Dont even think witchcraft can have any effect on me.
Zero
The blood is sufficient and my God is up to any task.
You can not touch me at all.

 

[AandW]

Because i go by all the other accounts about demons from Jesus that suggests God does not entertain Satan in any way. and will not have unclean spirits in his heaven.

I aslo understand that satan wants to exalt him self higher that God. as written in Isaiah.
which means he wants to be worshiped as God decieving nations.

And i also understand demons mentality of combining Good with evil is his plan to be worshipped as God. But many dont see that plan. this is why so many people have a hard time working scripture out. because in places of our bible Good has been combined with evil and a blessing has become a curse. the two are seperate, for scripture says the darkness has never ever never ever understood the light. a curse as no place in a blessing. our holy spirit is a blessing

There for evil has no part with Goodness.

Isaiah tells us WOE to those people who call good evil and evil bad. this is also a future prophecy of how people will believe in the future, valid for today. that was fortold thousands of years ago and much as happened in scripture since then.

There are endless accounts of a blessing becoming a curse in our bible. thus why so many use the lords name in vane. there is enough interpretation to stop a blessing becoming a curse in our bible. but its all seperated into different time periods.

Deuteronomy 11:26
“See, I am setting before you today a blessing and a curse:

Deuteronomy 11:27
the blessing, if you listen to the commandments of the Lord your God, which I am commanding you today;

Deuteronomy 30:19
I call heaven and earth to witness against you today, that I have set before you life and death, the blessing and the curse. So choose life in order that you may live, you and your descendants,

Luke 6:28
bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you.

James 3:10
from the same mouth come both blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not to be this way.

Have you read the first few Verses of Job [carefully]?

6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them.

7 And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.

8 And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil?

9 Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, Doth Job fear God for nought?

VERSES 7 and 8 begin with [ And the LORD said unto Satan,].

This is God making it a PURPOSE to talk to Satan, not to AVOID him!

And the LORD said unto Satan, [Where are you coming from? and then asked, have you considered my servant Job]...

God is TEMPTING Satan!


You've completely missed the point entirely why Job is so Valuable to us Believers.