Religion versers the law.

[de-emerald]

Category "1,050 NEW TESTAMENT COMMANDS" 1050 NT commands Page 2 31. Be no idolater (1.COR10:7) 32. Be followers of Paul as he followed Christ (1.COR11:1; PHIL3:17) 33. Be followers of God (EPH5:1) 34. Be followers of the faithful and patient (HEB6:12) 35. Be not children in understanding (1.COR14:20) 36. Be men in understanding (1.COR14:20) 37. Be steadfast (1.COR15:58) 38. Be unmoveable (1.COR15:58) 39. Be always abounding in God's work (1.COR15:58) 40. Be strong in the Lord (1.COR16:13; EPH6:10; 2.TIM2:1) 41. Be of good comfort (2.COR13:11) 42. Be of one mind (ROM12:16; 2.COR13:11; PHIL2:2; 1.PET3:8) 43. Be separate from the unclean (2.COR6:17) 44. Be renewed in spirit (EPH4:23) 45. Be angry and sin not (EPH4:26) 46. Be tender-hearted one to another (EPH4:32) 47. Be filled with the Spirit (EPH5:18) 48. Be likeminded (PHIL2:2) 49. Be one of accord (PHIL2:2) 50. Be anxious for nothing (PHIL4:6) 51. Be an example to believers in word, conversation, charity, spirit, faith, and purity (1.TIM4:12) 52. Be a partaker of Christian sufferings (2.TIM1:8; cp. 1.PET4:1) 53. Be gentle to all people (2.TIM2:24) 54. Be apt to teach (2.TIM2:24) 55. Be instant in season, out of season (2.TIM4:2) 56. Be careful to maintain good works (TIT3:8,14; cp. MATT5:16) 57. Be content with what you have (HEB13:5) 58. Be doers of the Word (JAS1:22) 59. Be afflicted and mourn (JAS4:9) 60. Be patient till Christ comes (JAS5:7-8) 61. Be holy in conversation (behaviour) (1.PET1:15-16) 62. Be pitiful (1.PET3:8) 63. Be courteous (1.PET3:8) 64. Be examples of the flock of God, not lord over it (1.PET5:3) 65. Be subject one to another (1.PET5:5) 66. Be clothed with humility (1.PET5:5) 67. Be sober (1.PET5:8) 68. Be vigilant (1.PET5:8) 69. Be mindful of prophecies and command-ments (2.PET3:2) 70. Be diligent to be found in peace (2.PET3:14) 71. Be diligent to be without spot, and blameless (2.PET3:14) 72. Be faithful to death (REV2:10) 73. Be watchful, strengthen self (REV3:2) 74. Be zealous and repent (REV3:19) Thirty "Be Not's":1. Be not like the hypocrites in prayer (MATT6:5) 2. Be not like the heathen in prayer (MATT6:8) 3. Be not as hypocrites in fasting (MATT6:16) 4. Be not called "Rabbi" (MATT23:8) 5. Be not called "Master" (MATT23:9) 6. Be not afraid of man (LK12:4) 7. Be not of doubtful mind (LK12:29) 8. Be not many teachers (JAS3:1) 9. Be not afraid of terror (1.PET3:14) 10. Be not troubled (1.PET3:14) 11. Be not ignorant of time with God (2.PET3:8; cp. ISA57:15) 12. Be not deceived: 10 classes not to inherit the kingdom (1.COR6:9-10) 13. Be not conformed to world (ROM12:2) 14. Be not slothful in business (ROM12:11) 15. Be not conceited (ROM12:16) 16. Be not overcome of evil (ROM12:21) 17. Be not mere servants of men (1.COR7:23) 18. Be not children in understanding (1.COR14:20) 19. Be not deceived by evil companions (1.COR15:33) 20. Be not unequally yoked together with unbelievers (2.COR6:14-15) 21. Be not entangled again with keeping the law (GAL5:1. See ‘Eighty-five Old and New Covenant Contrasts’) 22. Be not deceived: man will reap what he sows (GAL6:7-8) 23. Be not partakers with sinners (EPH5:7) 24. Be not unwise about God's will (EPH5:17) 25. Be not drunk with wine (EPH5:18) 26. Be not weary in well doing (2.THESS3:13) 27. Be not ashamed of God (2.TIM1:8) 28. Be not slothful (HEB6:12) 29. Be not forgetful of strangers (HEB13:2) 30. Be not carried about with different strange doctrines (HEB13:9)

 

[de-emerald]

Category "1,050 NEW TESTAMENT COMMANDS" 1050 NT commands Page 3 Fourteen "Beware's":1. Beware of false prophets (MATT7:15) 2. Beware of people (MATT10:17) 3. Beware of leaven (doctrine) of Pharisees (MATT16:6-12) 4. Beware of leaven (doctrine) of Herod (MK8:15) 5. Beware of hypocrisy (LK12:1) 6. Beware of covetousness (LK12:15) 7. Beware of scribes (MK12:38; LK20:46) 8. Beware of lest you despise God and perish (ACTS13:40-41) 9. Beware of dogs (false teachers, PHIL3:2; ISA 56:10) 10. Beware of evil workers (PHIL3:2) 11. Beware of the concision (Jews, PHIL3:2) 12. Beware of being spoiled through philosophy (COL2:8) 13. Beware of being spoiled through vain deceit (COL2:8) 14. Beware of backsliding (2.PET3:17) Four things to believe:1. The gospel (MK1:15) 2. God's existence (HEB11:6) 3. On Jesus Christ (1.JN3:23) 4. God rewards diligent seeking (HEB11:6) One thing not to believe:1. Believe not every spirit (1.JN4:1) Two classes to bless:1. Those who curse you (MATT5:44; LK6:28) 2. Persecutors (ROM12:14) Three things to cast out or away:1. The beam out of own eyes (MATT7:5; LK6:42) 2. Devils (MATT10:8) 3. All your cares upon God (1.PET5:7) Two classes to comfort:1. One another-fellow Christians (1.THESS4:18; 1.THESS5:11) 2. The feeble-minded (1.THESS5:14) Six classes to honour:1. Fathers (MATT 19:19; MK 10:19; LK18:20; EPH6:2) 2. Mothers (MATT19:19; MK10:19; LK 18:20; EPH 6:2) 3. Others (ROM12:10) 4. Widows indeed (1.TIM5:3) 5. All people (1.PET2:17) 6. Kings - rulers (1.PET2:17)Five things to charge:1. Men to be blameless (1.TIM5:7) 2. The rich to be humble (1.TIM6:17) 3. The rich to trust in God (1.TIM6:17) 4. The rich to do good works (1.TIM6:18) 5. The rich to lay hold on eternal life (1.TIM6:19) Five things to consider:1. The ravens (LK12:24) 2. The lilies (LK12:27-28) 3. Truth (2.TIM2:7) 4. That you are capable of falling (GAL6:1) 5. Christ (HEB3:1; HEB12:3) Three things to continue in:1. Love (JN15:9) 2. Prayer (ROM12:12; COL4:2) 3. Truth (2.TIM3:14) Two things to covet:1. The best gifts (1.COR12:31) 2. To prophesy (1.COR14:39); cp. things not to covet (EX20:17; DEUT5:21) One thing not to cast away:1. Your confidence in God (HEB10:35) Two things to endure:1. Hardness (2.TIM2:3) 2. Sufferings (2.TIM4:5) Whom to fear:God (MATT10:28; LK12:5; 1.PET2:17; REV14:7) Three things not to fear:1. Man (MATT10:28; LK12:5) 2. Persecutors (MATT10:26) 3. No lack of provision (MATT10:31; MK6:8-9; LK12:7) Five things to feed:1. Enemies (ROM12:20) 2. Lambs (JN21:15) 3. Sheep (JN21:16,17) 4. Flock of God (1.PET5:2) 5. The church (ACTS20:28) Four things to flee from:1. Fornication (1.COR6:18) 2. Idolatry (1.COR10:14) 3. Hurtful lusts (1.TIM6:9-11) 4. Youthful lusts (2.TIM2:22)

 

[de-emerald]

lol ok so thats all 1050 commandments of the new testerment, now the question is who would like to take part in learning every single one of them day by day.

 

[Dino246]

Or, “How to Kill Your Own Thread in One Easy Step.”

 

[AandW]

hi Aandw how are you on this fine day.. so then the orignal law is not the same and the law became a religion.

And then all hell broke loose because no one could obey the law or nobody wanted to ?.

Jesus gave a new commandment that you love each other. but i would have thought you where loving your brother by obeying the law of moses (the commandments of God.. Jesus said the greatest law i Give you that you love each other.. the law above laws.. thats only the greatest law because with that law you obey the other laws. which Jesus said hasnt changed..
Jesus said you must obey the commandments and the law to the jews but why have you not mentioned those laws where not for the gentiles to obey to..

How can you have one rule for one and not one rule for another Dont forget God said nor Jew nor gentile i have made no distinction.

Wouldnt you say that on that basis christianity is both a religion of Judaism and chrisrianity ? .

Matthew 19:16-20

And someone came to Him and said, “Teacher, what good thing shall I do that I may obtain eternal life?” And He said to him, “Why are you asking Me about what is good? There is only One who is good; but if you wish to enter into life, keep the commandments.” Then he *said to Him, “Which ones?” And Jesus said, “You shall not commit murder; You shall not commit adultery; You shall not steal; You shall not bear false witness.
commadments of the old religion to be followed in the new religion of christianity yes no ?


If christianity wasnt a religion of both judaism and christianity surely we would be worshiping two seperate Gods ? hence the reason for the old testerment and new testerment combined ?

I am just saying, how after Christ came with our current Gospel, it was how God wanted us to abide in Him. When the Law was first given, it wasn't polluted by Pharisees and other leaders like at the time Christ was here on Earth. So just like the Gospel of Christ has become a religion to some, in the beginning it was just the Apostles preaching it and it was the purest version unlike today. The same is with the Law. When it first was given to Moses, it had not been polluted but pure in its concept.

 

[Blik]

I am just saying, how after Christ came with our current Gospel, it was how God wanted us to abide in Him. When the Law was first given, it wasn't polluted by Pharisees and other leaders like at the time Christ was here on Earth. So just like the Gospel of Christ has become a religion to some, in the beginning it was just the Apostles preaching it and it was the purest version unlike today. The same is with the Law. When it first was given to Moses, it had not been polluted but pure in its concept.

The law given to Moses was right and pure, but the law given to our hearts is much better. Moses was told we are to cut foreskin to signify belonging to Him, the law in our hearts tells us we belong to Him in our hearts. The law given to Moses said you must not work of the Sabbath, the law given to our hearts said to keep the Sabbath Holy, and a holy day would include working to save an injured person.

 

[AandW]

The law given to Moses was right and pure, but the law given to our hearts is much better. Moses was told we are to cut foreskin to signify belonging to Him, the law in our hearts tells us we belong to Him in our hearts. The law given to Moses said you must not work of the Sabbath, the law given to our hearts said to keep the Sabbath Holy, and a holy day would include working to save an injured person.

Amen!

But the Law was perfect when it was first given to Moses. By the time Yeshua arrived as the Messiah, the Law had been corrupted by the religious leaders of the day. The point is not that we should follow the Law, but from when God gave it till He took it away, it was no longer being applied in how God meant it to be. It became corrupted by man.

 

[Nehemiah6]

Or should I have the contradiction that Jesus never taught religion he taught love only which isn't religion or religious

Actually Jesus taught BOTH love and hate. So we should not misrepresent Him just to attack "religion" -- which can also be "pure religion and undefiled". So all religion is not bad -- only false religion.

So where did Jesus teach hate? Right in the Bible. But before we get to that we should be aware that God the Father praised His Son (who is God) for hating iniquity: Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows. (Heb 1:9)

In view of this here are the words of Christ: But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate. (Rev 2:6) So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitans, which thing I hate. (Rev 2:15) And I will kill her [Jezebel's] children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works. (Rev 2:23)

Because Jesus hated iniquity, He cleansed the temple at Jerusalem twice. And at His second coming He will destroy His enemies with flaming fire. And before that the wrath of the Lamb will be poured out upon an unbelieving and ungodly world during the Tribulation and Great Tribulation. So when we present Christ we must present the true Christ who both loves and hates. That is why He commands all men everywhere to repent. He hates iniquity.

 

[de-emerald]

Or, “How to Kill Your Own Thread in One Easy Step.”

Look i do not want to quarrel over the law. I posted the 1050 commandments from the new testerment in the hope we can talk about them.
Just an inivitation to pick any at random and to talk abou them.

Quarrels over the law are none profitable for anyone that law is written, so if we quarrel over the law then our religion of christianity is false.

There is however no disputing the fact the law is for correctiveness and to better our religion.

So please i want to talk about the law and how important it is to obey the law.

I want to talk about all of the laws everyone of them.

 

[Evmur]

Look i do not want to quarrel over the law. I posted the 1050 commandments from the new testerment in the hope we can talk about them.
Just an inivitation to pick any at random and to talk abou them.

Quarrels over the law are none profitable for anyone that law is written, so if we quarrel over the law then our religion of christianity is false.

There is however no disputing the fact the law is for correctiveness and to better our religion.

So please i want to talk about the law and how important it is to obey the law.

I want to talk about all of the laws everyone of them.

Get a LIFE, even the life of Christ and He will live in you. What you are trying to be is God.

 

[de-emerald]

Actually Jesus taught BOTH love and hate. So we should not misrepresent Him just to attack "religion" -- which can also be "pure religion and undefiled". So all religion is not bad -- only false religion.

So where did Jesus teach hate? Right in the Bible. But before we get to that we should be aware that God the Father praised His Son (who is God) for hating iniquity: Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows. (Heb 1:9)

In view of this here are the words of Christ: But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate. (Rev 2:6) So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitans, which thing I hate. (Rev 2:15) And I will kill her [Jezebel's] children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works. (Rev 2:23)

Because Jesus hated iniquity, He cleansed the temple at Jerusalem twice. And at His second coming He will destroy His enemies with flaming fire. And before that the wrath of the Lamb will be poured out upon an unbelieving and ungodly world during the Tribulation and Great Tribulation. So when we present Christ we must present the true Christ who both loves and hates. That is why He commands all men everywhere to repent. He hates iniquity.

We do have to be carefull we dont miss repersent hate.

All the hate you talk about here is something that is being disliked. If you know what i mean. Disliking sin in the same manner you may say in a casual manner i dislike sauerkraut and simply just pass on that and say no thanks not for me.

But on another note and i can understand why somebody may become extremly radical and say i detest sauerkraut lol you know what i mean that stuff sends shivers up my spine. but at the same time i wouldnt want to offend someone who eats sauerkraut lol.

I could be come extremely radical and say death to the sauerkraut eaters then i would be letting hate get a hold on me and start passing out judgement with hate.

I could become radical and say death to none believers and this wouldnt be right of me to do so. I Pray i never become this way personaly i fear christians can become a radical christians this way. Its not Good for our faith. How many people would like a Job of an exercutioner you know what i mean ?

 

[de-emerald]

Get a LIFE, even the life of Christ and He will live in you. What you are trying to be is God.

Get a LIFE, even the life of Christ and He will live in you. What you are trying to be is God.

falsely acusing someone is your life not mine. and assasinating my character is really bad manners. ive had quite a lot of insults since i have been here but your one really does win the prize for being the most insultive.

all i want to do is talk about the law and religion.

 

[Evmur]

falsely acusing someone is your life not mine. and assasintaing my character is really bad manners. ive had quite a lot of insults since i have been here but your one really does win the prize for being the most insultive.

all i want to do is talk about the law and religion.

When I say "get a LIFE ..." it is a general remark to anybody not to you personally, mebbe you are saved, mebbe Christ does live in in you. But when I say you are trying to be God, that is directed at you, you are trying to be perfect.

Stop trying to be perfect, let Jesus live in you.

"Get a LIFE, even the life of Christ" is my answer to your question.

 

[Dino246]

Look i do not want to quarrel over the law. I posted the 1050 commandments from the new testerment in the hope we can talk about them.
Just an inivitation to pick any at random and to talk abou them.

Okay... how about we discuss Galatians 3:16: "All who rely on observing the law are under a curse, for it is written, 'Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law'."

Quarrels over the law are none profitable for anyone that law is written, so if we quarrel over the law then our religion of christianity is false.

Really? Where is that in Scripture?

 

[de-emerald]

Okay... how about we discuss Galatians 3:16: "All who rely on observing the law are under a curse, for it is written, 'Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law'."

This was preaching to the foolish galations who where only relying on works of the law. they where being instructed to rely upon all of the law and faith and works of the law. there is no curse when you have faith and continue to do everything written in the law. hence why faith without works is a false a religion

de-emerald said: Quarrels over the law are none profitable for anyone that law is written, so if we quarrel over the law then our religion of christianity is false.

Really? Where is that in Scripture?

TIT3:9 9 But avoid foolish controversies and genealogies and arguments and quarrels about the law, because these are unprofitable and useless.

 

[Dino246]

This was preaching to the foolish galations who where only relying on works of the law. they where being instructed to rely upon all of the law and faith and works of the law. there is no curse when you have faith and continue to do everything written in the law. hence why faith without works is a false a religion

You have completely misunderstood Paul's message. He was telling the Galatians, who were adding works of the law to their faith, that the works of the law were empty and unprofitable! This is made clear in 2:3, "After beginning with the Spirit, are you now trying to attain your goal by human effort?" Fulfilling the requirements of the law is impossible. Trying to do so is foolish!

TIT3:9 9 But avoid foolish controversies and genealogies and arguments and quarrels about the law, because these are unprofitable and useless.

There is nothing in that verse about one's "religion of Christianity" being false. Please don't add to Scripture and claim that's what Scripture says.

 

[de-emerald]

You have completely misunderstood Paul's message. He was telling the Galatians, who were adding works of the law to their faith, that the works of the law were empty and unprofitable! This is made clear in 2:3, "After beginning with the Spirit, are you now trying to attain your goal by human effort?" Fulfilling the requirements of the law is impossible. Trying to do so is foolish!


There is nothing in that verse about one's "religion of Christianity" being false. Please don't add to Scripture and claim that's what Scripture says.

something that is useless is worthless to your faith i did not add anything i think you have that one wrong.

we should not quarrel about the law because we are to obey the law. it does not get any more simple than that. galations 3 clearly says Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law. the book of law is the whole bible.

come on dude its you who have just taken away i havent miss understood at all

 

[49]

You have completely misunderstood Paul's message. He was telling the Galatians, who were adding works of the law to their faith, that the works of the law were empty and unprofitable! This is made clear in 2:3, "After beginning with the Spirit, are you now trying to attain your goal by human effort?" Fulfilling the requirements of the law is impossible. Trying to do so is foolish!


There is nothing in that verse about one's "religion of Christianity" being false. Please don't add to Scripture and claim that's what Scripture says.

Just finished reading Galatians again the other night, and as is typical of Paul, sometimes his writing is hard to understand.
As concerning Galatians 3:10 (was confused, you had it as 3:16), seems like it is explained (to me, anyway), in following verses:

11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.

12 And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.

13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:

14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

 

[Dino246]

Just finished reading Galatians again the other night, and as is typical of Paul, sometimes his writing is hard to understand.
As concerning Galatians 3:10 (was confused, you had it as 3:16), seems like it is explained (to me, anyway), in following verses:

11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.

12 And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.

13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:

14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

You're correct on the verse reference; my apologies.

 

[de-emerald]

Yes christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law. i completely agree. makes me wonder what paul was actually refering to the galations. its doesnt say what works of the law they where relying on, but at a guess they where probably still doin animal sacrifice or something.

galation 3 clearly is saying if you have no faith you will be cursed. basically if you dont believe in Jesus you will be cursed.