Once saved allways saved teaches a christian can never become possessed.
I believe other wise so lets look at the facts.
The issue boils down to a simple question: can a demon possess (indwell) a believer, who is indwelt with the Holy Spirit? The Bible makes no mention of any believer being demon possessed, or of a believer having a demon cast out.
I can't imagine any argument that the Holy Spirit would share residence with a demon. But anyone can take their best shot.
Lets not also go into works based salvation argument either. i am here to learn also.
How ever works are are a requirement and we should respect that fact.
You say you don't want to "go into works based salvation argument" but then you claim "works are a requirement". So I assume you mean works are a requirement for salvation.
Well, I can't let that pass. Jesus taught very clearly that those who believe HAVE (as in possess) eternal life in John 5:24 - “Very truly I tell you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be judged but has crossed over from death to life."
Then Jesus said, "I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand." in John 10:28.
So, the point is clear; those who believe are given eternal life, and they (recipients of eternal life) shall never perish.
Those who argue that works are a requirement for salvation are only trying to pit Scripture against Scripture. There are NO verses that actually teach that salvation is by works, or that works are a requirement for salvation.
I believe the power of the holy spirit can set a demon possessed person free from a living person. but as you know in scripture it warns us they can come back.
The question is: Does the Holy Spirit share dwelling with a demon? There is no evidence from Scripture that He would.
Jesus saved people when he rid people of a demon, but did they still needed a saviour for the rest of there life as he told them they can come back.
This assumes that a saved person can be possessed. There is no biblical evidence for it.
Does it mean you lose the holy spirit if you get reposessed by a demon or you havent been been saved in the first place.
Again, there is no evidence from Scripture that a saved person can be possessed by a demon. Further, the Holy Spirit's indwelling is permanent. Jesus said so in John 14:16 - And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another advocate to help you and be with you forever—
people who suffer denomic oppression or denomic possesion.
Demons can clearly influence believers, as the Bible says that the devil "deceives the whole world" and "leads the whole world astray". This would include believers, and 1 Peter 5:8 says "Be alert and of sober mind. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour." Demonic deception is obviously widespread.
My experince is denomic oppression for the unknowing person can do just as much harm as denomic possession to an individual. so why claim one is the lesser of the two evils. Both can make a person fall from grace on any given day. some christians believe that denomic possesion is more of an issue than denomic oppression. that denomic oppresion is no big deal.
No offense, but no one should base doctrinal truth on their own or other's experience. Only on the Bible.
I see that christians believe in once saved allways saved, but should that include not being reposessed.
The Bible never says that a saved person can be possessed by demons.
Once saved allways saved has the belief you can never lose the spirit. and you will allways be holy spirit filled.
You are half right, half wrong. The Bible teaches that the indwelling Holy Spirit is permanent, as I have shown above from John 14:16. Being indwelt and being filled are 2 separate things. All believers are indwelt with the Spirit, but only believers in fellowship can be filled.
Because as you know once you become saved you remain saved whilst the holy spirit cleanses you from sin every time you sin.
No. Only those who confess their sins are cleansed from them. 1 John 1:1-9.
Once saved allways saved also believes that you will still sin but remain saved.
So isnt that the same as you can be saved but still become possessed.
No, not even close.
In the bible as you know theese stones where on the breastplate of the priests and known to light up when they pray.ed theyve worked for me hundreds of times and i do mean hundreds.
Do you own one of the breastplates that ancient priests used?? Where did you get it? Why do you think there is any power in any stone?
I once had a dream i was taken to heaven where i met God whos eyes where shining in a beautiful blue sapphire. a light came into me that changed colour to silver zeblon and blue sapphire. ever since then i have been performing spiritual exorcism..
I feal ihave been given a gift.
Again, one's personal experience does not prove or affirm any doctrine. Only what the Bible says.