Has once saved allways saved got this right

[eternally-gratefull]

Its implied in your reply that people who BELIVE on Christ must indeed make heaven, else its just WORKS, (which its not).

I never stated this. So once again. Your whole premise is false.

once again mere belief never saved anyone, now twice I have not only denied what you accused me of I actually stated I did not believe it period.
are you going to accuse me of it a third time?

I refuse to answer the rest of your post until you admit I have never stated just believing will save a person forever.
if you can’t get this right, you will never get the rest of what I believe right, because your basing your proof of what I believe on a lie,

 

[JerryInBoston]

gossip is another thing seldom discussed....anyway....

Yes indeed. Best analogy I ever heard re: gossip. Teacher told his student that gossip was a sin. Student did not quite understand. Teacher then told student "Take this pillow down to the square, tear it open and dump all its feathers, then return promptly to me." Student did as teacher instructed, traveled half an hour to the square, dumped all the feathers to the astonishment of all the onlookers, then promptly returned and told teacher "I've done all that you've instructed." The teacher said "Good. Now go back to the square and pick up every single feather." Student said "That's not possible. They've all been tossed and blown about and are likely all over town by now." Teacher replied "Now you know how gossip works."

 

[SophieT]

Yes indeed. Best analogy I ever heard re: gossip. Teacher told his student that gossip was a sin. Student did not quite understand. Teacher then told student "Take this pillow down to the square, tear it open and dump all its feathers, then return promptly to me." Student did as teacher instructed, traveled half an hour to the square, dumped all the feathers to the astonishment of all the onlookers, then promptly returned and told teacher "I've done all that you've instructed." The teacher said "Good. Now go back to the square and pick up every single feather." Student said "That's not possible. They've all been tossed and blown about and are likely all over town by now." Teacher replied "Now you know how gossip works."

that really is a great analogy. really

 

[de-emerald]

Just be aware i still havent cast my vote. The problem i have is not knowing the difference between spiritual oppression and denomic possession.

 

[PennEd]

Just be aware i still havent cast my vote. The problem i have is not knowing the difference between spiritual oppression and denomic possession.

Demonically possessed people in Scripture are not in control. The demon can force the person to do all sorts of things.

The oppressed Christian can have demons whisper evil, shout, possibly even control OTHER material objects or beings to create disturbing visions, but cannot force the Christian to do something. Like hurt themselves or attack someone.