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Peter's initial instructions to the crowd at Pentecost are seen consistently in the detailed record of other groups as well as individuals complying with NT spiritual rebirth components. (Acts 2:38-41, 8:12-18, 10:44-48, 19:1-6, 22:16) This indicates that EVERYONE throughout the ages are required to obey God's established pattern as presented on the day the NT church was birthed.
Eph 1
13¶In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed , ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
14Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.
Simple .
1 cor 1.21
21For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
13¶In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed , ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
14Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.
Simple .
1 cor 1.21
21For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
You are ignoring what the provided scripture states. Paul makes it clear people that were previously water baptized had to be re-baptized in water in the name of the Lord Jesus.
The epistles are written to individuals who had their foundation already laid. Paul instructed individuals about acceptable life styles and explained concepts relevant to the spiritual rebirth in greater detail.
Since everyone must be born again it stands to reason that following the NT birthing procedure presented in the book of Acts makes perfect sense. Jesus said being reborn requires water and Spirit.
The epistles are written to individuals who had their foundation already laid. Paul instructed individuals about acceptable life styles and explained concepts relevant to the spiritual rebirth in greater detail.
Since everyone must be born again it stands to reason that following the NT birthing procedure presented in the book of Acts makes perfect sense. Jesus said being reborn requires water and Spirit.
How about this one? Once you believe you have already been born again.
“Everyone who believes that Jesus is the Christ has been born of God, and everyone who loves the Father loves whoever has been born of him.”
1 John 5:1 ESV
https://www.bible.com/59/1jn.5.1.esv
“I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life.”
1 John 5:13 ESV
https://www.bible.com/59/1jn.5.13.esv
“Everyone who believes that Jesus is the Christ has been born of God, and everyone who loves the Father loves whoever has been born of him.”
1 John 5:1 ESV
https://www.bible.com/59/1jn.5.1.esv
“I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life.”
1 John 5:13 ESV
https://www.bible.com/59/1jn.5.13.esv
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Believing in Jesus is the essential first step. Without it nothing else matters. Believing Jesus prompts obedience to the commands associated with the NT spiritual rebirth.
Jesus said unless a man is born of water and Spirit he cannot ENTER the kingdom of God. Jesus also said, he who believes and is baptized shall be saved.
Are you calling Jesus a liar?
Do we just believe in Jesus, or him and all of his commandments? Consider that the devils believe in Jesus and tremble. (James 2:19)
Jesus said everyone will be judged by the word. Not some of it, but all of it.
Jesus said unless a man is born of water and Spirit he cannot ENTER the kingdom of God. Jesus also said, he who believes and is baptized shall be saved.
Are you calling Jesus a liar?
Do we just believe in Jesus, or him and all of his commandments? Consider that the devils believe in Jesus and tremble. (James 2:19)
Jesus said everyone will be judged by the word. Not some of it, but all of it.
Absolutely not calling Jesus a liar. Isn’t 1 John inspired. I just showed you scripture.
“Jesus answered him, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God.” Nicodemus said to him, “How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter a second time into his mother’s womb and be born?” Jesus answered, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Do not marvel that I said to you, ‘You must be born again.’ The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear its sound, but you do not know where it comes from or where it goes. So it is with everyone who is born of the Spirit.” Nicodemus said to him, “How can these things be?” Jesus answered him, “Are you the teacher of Israel and yet you do not understand these things?”
John 3:3-10 ESV
https://www.bible.com/59/jhn.3.3-10.esv
Why would a teacher of Israel understand christian baptism? Seems obvious that wasn’t what the water symbolized.
Look at the similarities with this passage. Think about what is required to see or inherit the kingdom of God. We must first bear the image of the man of dust. Then we can bear the image of the man of heaven.
“But someone will ask, “How are the dead raised? With what kind of body do they come?” You foolish person! What you sow does not come to life unless it dies. And what you sow is not the body that is to be, but a bare kernel, perhaps of wheat or of some other grain. But God gives it a body as he has chosen, and to each kind of seed its own body. For not all flesh is the same, but there is one kind for humans, another for animals, another for birds, and another for fish. There are heavenly bodies and earthly bodies, but the glory of the heavenly is of one kind, and the glory of the earthly is of another. There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars; for star differs from star in glory. So is it with the resurrection of the dead. What is sown is perishable; what is raised is imperishable. It is sown in dishonor; it is raised in glory. It is sown in weakness; it is raised in power. It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body. Thus it is written, “The first man Adam became a living being”; the last Adam became a life-giving spirit. But it is not the spiritual that is first but the natural, and then the spiritual. The first man was from the earth, a man of dust; the second man is from heaven. As was the man of dust, so also are those who are of the dust, and as is the man of heaven, so also are those who are of heaven. Just as we have borne the image of the man of dust, we shall also bear the image of the man of heaven. I tell you this, brothers: flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable. Behold! I tell you a mystery. We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we shall be changed. For this perishable body must put on the imperishable, and this mortal body must put on immortality. When the perishable puts on the imperishable, and the mortal puts on immortality, then shall come to pass the saying that is written: “Death is swallowed up in victory.” “O death, where is your victory? O death, where is your sting?””
1 Corinthians 15:35-55 ESV
https://www.bible.com/59/1co.15.35-55.esv
We see the womb of a bride described in Song of Solomon 4 as a well of living water.
“Your shoots are an orchard of pomegranates with all choicest fruits, henna with nard, nard and saffron, calamus and cinnamon, with all trees of frankincense, myrrh and aloes, with all choice spices— a garden fountain, a well of living water, and flowing streams from Lebanon.”
Song of Solomon 4:13-15 ESV
https://www.bible.com/59/sng.4.13-15.esv
“Jesus answered him, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God.” Nicodemus said to him, “How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter a second time into his mother’s womb and be born?” Jesus answered, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Do not marvel that I said to you, ‘You must be born again.’ The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear its sound, but you do not know where it comes from or where it goes. So it is with everyone who is born of the Spirit.” Nicodemus said to him, “How can these things be?” Jesus answered him, “Are you the teacher of Israel and yet you do not understand these things?”
John 3:3-10 ESV
https://www.bible.com/59/jhn.3.3-10.esv
Why would a teacher of Israel understand christian baptism? Seems obvious that wasn’t what the water symbolized.
Look at the similarities with this passage. Think about what is required to see or inherit the kingdom of God. We must first bear the image of the man of dust. Then we can bear the image of the man of heaven.
“But someone will ask, “How are the dead raised? With what kind of body do they come?” You foolish person! What you sow does not come to life unless it dies. And what you sow is not the body that is to be, but a bare kernel, perhaps of wheat or of some other grain. But God gives it a body as he has chosen, and to each kind of seed its own body. For not all flesh is the same, but there is one kind for humans, another for animals, another for birds, and another for fish. There are heavenly bodies and earthly bodies, but the glory of the heavenly is of one kind, and the glory of the earthly is of another. There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars; for star differs from star in glory. So is it with the resurrection of the dead. What is sown is perishable; what is raised is imperishable. It is sown in dishonor; it is raised in glory. It is sown in weakness; it is raised in power. It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body. Thus it is written, “The first man Adam became a living being”; the last Adam became a life-giving spirit. But it is not the spiritual that is first but the natural, and then the spiritual. The first man was from the earth, a man of dust; the second man is from heaven. As was the man of dust, so also are those who are of the dust, and as is the man of heaven, so also are those who are of heaven. Just as we have borne the image of the man of dust, we shall also bear the image of the man of heaven. I tell you this, brothers: flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable. Behold! I tell you a mystery. We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we shall be changed. For this perishable body must put on the imperishable, and this mortal body must put on immortality. When the perishable puts on the imperishable, and the mortal puts on immortality, then shall come to pass the saying that is written: “Death is swallowed up in victory.” “O death, where is your victory? O death, where is your sting?””
1 Corinthians 15:35-55 ESV
https://www.bible.com/59/1co.15.35-55.esv
We see the womb of a bride described in Song of Solomon 4 as a well of living water.
“Your shoots are an orchard of pomegranates with all choicest fruits, henna with nard, nard and saffron, calamus and cinnamon, with all trees of frankincense, myrrh and aloes, with all choice spices— a garden fountain, a well of living water, and flowing streams from Lebanon.”
Song of Solomon 4:13-15 ESV
https://www.bible.com/59/sng.4.13-15.esv
Precious friend, can't argue with that! I believe I did that Very Thing:
here: 12 baptisms And here: ONE Baptism
Be Blessed!
here: 12 baptisms And here: ONE Baptism
Be Blessed!
I was responding to Eph 1:13.
Paul's statement directly corresponded to the word of truth initially given by Peter at Pentecost when the NT church was birthed. And later to the other groups of humanity. The scripture you reference states one is sealed after believing something. (Eph 1:13) That something is the word of truth, the gospel of salvation.
Jesus gave Peter the keys to the kingdom. He was used to initially present the gospel message and man's required obedience. The people believed the message and obeyed the word of truth, in fact the gospel of salvation: they repented, got water baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus and received the gift of the Holy Ghost.
“And being made perfect, he (Jesus) became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him.´ Heb 5:9
Paul's statement directly corresponded to the word of truth initially given by Peter at Pentecost when the NT church was birthed. And later to the other groups of humanity. The scripture you reference states one is sealed after believing something. (Eph 1:13) That something is the word of truth, the gospel of salvation.
Jesus gave Peter the keys to the kingdom. He was used to initially present the gospel message and man's required obedience. The people believed the message and obeyed the word of truth, in fact the gospel of salvation: they repented, got water baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus and received the gift of the Holy Ghost.
“And being made perfect, he (Jesus) became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him.´ Heb 5:9
Eph 1 .13 proves you false.
¶In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye BELIEVED, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
Perfect opportunity for Paul to include water obedience ( ceremony ) ,but he doesn't. If it was essential, he would have included it .
Rom 10,9
What a perfect place to include The order of Acts 2.38 ( a chance for scripture to interpret scripture maybe ?) But look ,this is not found here .
8But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
9That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt BELIEVE in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10For with the heart man BELIEVETH unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
11For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
12For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
13For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
1 cor 1.21
What a perfect place to remind believers how they were saved, so that they can be sure how to inform others .
21For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that BELIEVE.
¶In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye BELIEVED, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
Perfect opportunity for Paul to include water obedience ( ceremony ) ,but he doesn't. If it was essential, he would have included it .
Rom 10,9
What a perfect place to include The order of Acts 2.38 ( a chance for scripture to interpret scripture maybe ?) But look ,this is not found here .
8But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
9That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt BELIEVE in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10For with the heart man BELIEVETH unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
11For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.
12For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
13For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
1 cor 1.21
What a perfect place to remind believers how they were saved, so that they can be sure how to inform others .
21For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that BELIEVE.
One of the most fundamental principles of Bible interpretation is that which is known as “the analogy of faith.” In his classic work on biblical hermeneutics, Professor Milton Terry noted that there is:
First, the inspired psalmist proclaimed: “The sum of your [God’s] word is truth?” (Psalm 119:160). The term “sum” (Heb. — rosh) in this context suggests a functional system which encompasses the entirety of a thing (Muller, 1192).
Second, since God is a perfect Being who is the author of neither confusion nor contradiction (cf. 1 Cor. 14:33) and since the Scriptures were issued from him, logic demands that the instruction contained therein will be harmonious.
So, what are we to make of the matter when we confront the issue of dealing with the theme of salvation, but see different conditions mentioned in various texts? The answer does not lie in rejecting some passages and accepting others. Rather, we must seek a harmonious solution.
There is a common mode of expression in the Bible known as the synecdoche. It is a figure of speech by which part of something can stand for the whole or vice versa.
For example, Paul was on a ship that housed 276 “souls.” These were not bodiless “souls.” Rather, the term “soul” stands for the entire person (see Acts 27:37). How do we arrive at this conclusion? Because other passages teach that human beings have bodies as well as souls (Mt. 10:28).
How Does the Analogy of Faith Apply to Romans 10:9-10?
With this interpretative principle in view, let’s direct our attention to the passage cited by our courteous reader (Rom. 10:9-10).
Two conditions are mentioned within the passage — believing in the resurrected Christ and confessing that conviction before others.
But where is “repentance” — that godly sorrow that is accompanied by a change of conduct (2 Cor. 7:10)? Surely that requirement cannot be dismissed simply because it isn’t mentioned here. Repentance is made obligatory in a host of supplementary New Testament passages.
Jesus declared that one who refuses repentance will perish (Lk. 13:3, 5). Repentance was a part of that Commission given by the Lord (Luke 24:47). And it was also proclaimed by an inspired apostle on the day of Pentecost (Acts 2:38). This sorrowful, changing obligation is required of all people everywhere in view of the coming Judgment (Acts 17:30-31).
Since Paul did not contradict himself between Acts 17:30-31 and Romans 10:9-10, it must be the case that “believe” and “confession” in the latter text embrace all of God’s redemptive conditions.
Similarly, though only “repentance” is mentioned as the condition by which the first Gentiles were converted (Acts 11:18), the principle of “the analogy of the Scriptures” demands that the “believing” and “confessing” of Romans 10:9-10 be included in the divine plan of salvation as well.
Now if this can be seen with reference to the conditions just mentioned, why is it so difficult to comprehend that baptism must also be included in the sacred scheme of redemption?
Especially is this so since baptism is inseparably connected with salvation in so many New Testament passages (Mk. 16:16; Acts 2:38; 22:16; Rom. 6:3-4; Gal. 3:26-27; Eph. 5:26; Titus 3:5; 1 Pet. 3:21).
Surely a completely unbiased view of the subject can lead only to the conclusion that immersion in water is an essential component in God’s plan of salvation for humankind.
This truth was not denied until the Christian movement was well into those stages of digression that eventually developed in the post-apostolic age.
“[a] general harmony of fundamental doctrine which pervades the entire Scriptures. It assumes that the Bible is a self-interpreting book, and what is obscure in one passage may be illuminated by another. No single statement or obscure passage of one book can be allowed to set aside a doctrine which is clearly established by many passages” (449).
Though expressed in a rather formal way, the statement above actually merely reflects the explicit testimony of the Scriptures, and of logic itself.First, the inspired psalmist proclaimed: “The sum of your [God’s] word is truth?” (Psalm 119:160). The term “sum” (Heb. — rosh) in this context suggests a functional system which encompasses the entirety of a thing (Muller, 1192).
Second, since God is a perfect Being who is the author of neither confusion nor contradiction (cf. 1 Cor. 14:33) and since the Scriptures were issued from him, logic demands that the instruction contained therein will be harmonious.
So, what are we to make of the matter when we confront the issue of dealing with the theme of salvation, but see different conditions mentioned in various texts? The answer does not lie in rejecting some passages and accepting others. Rather, we must seek a harmonious solution.
There is a common mode of expression in the Bible known as the synecdoche. It is a figure of speech by which part of something can stand for the whole or vice versa.
For example, Paul was on a ship that housed 276 “souls.” These were not bodiless “souls.” Rather, the term “soul” stands for the entire person (see Acts 27:37). How do we arrive at this conclusion? Because other passages teach that human beings have bodies as well as souls (Mt. 10:28).
How Does the Analogy of Faith Apply to Romans 10:9-10?
With this interpretative principle in view, let’s direct our attention to the passage cited by our courteous reader (Rom. 10:9-10).
Two conditions are mentioned within the passage — believing in the resurrected Christ and confessing that conviction before others.
But where is “repentance” — that godly sorrow that is accompanied by a change of conduct (2 Cor. 7:10)? Surely that requirement cannot be dismissed simply because it isn’t mentioned here. Repentance is made obligatory in a host of supplementary New Testament passages.
Jesus declared that one who refuses repentance will perish (Lk. 13:3, 5). Repentance was a part of that Commission given by the Lord (Luke 24:47). And it was also proclaimed by an inspired apostle on the day of Pentecost (Acts 2:38). This sorrowful, changing obligation is required of all people everywhere in view of the coming Judgment (Acts 17:30-31).
Since Paul did not contradict himself between Acts 17:30-31 and Romans 10:9-10, it must be the case that “believe” and “confession” in the latter text embrace all of God’s redemptive conditions.
Similarly, though only “repentance” is mentioned as the condition by which the first Gentiles were converted (Acts 11:18), the principle of “the analogy of the Scriptures” demands that the “believing” and “confessing” of Romans 10:9-10 be included in the divine plan of salvation as well.
Now if this can be seen with reference to the conditions just mentioned, why is it so difficult to comprehend that baptism must also be included in the sacred scheme of redemption?
Especially is this so since baptism is inseparably connected with salvation in so many New Testament passages (Mk. 16:16; Acts 2:38; 22:16; Rom. 6:3-4; Gal. 3:26-27; Eph. 5:26; Titus 3:5; 1 Pet. 3:21).
Surely a completely unbiased view of the subject can lead only to the conclusion that immersion in water is an essential component in God’s plan of salvation for humankind.
This truth was not denied until the Christian movement was well into those stages of digression that eventually developed in the post-apostolic age.