Should we forgive adam and eve

[de-emerald]

It depends if Adam and Eve have repented. Contrary to popular belief, Jesus never taught unconditional forgiveness. He taught that if your brother or sister asks for forgiveness, and repents, then you're obligated to forgive them.

Luke 17:4
4And if he trespass against thee seven times in a day, and seven times in a day turn again to thee, saying, I repent; thou shalt forgive him.

Are Adam and Eve even our brother and sister in a literal or spiritual sense? Are they in Christ?

All of that being said, there is nothing wrong with being proactive with forgiveness and giving it to those who don't even ask. But if they don't ask then I don't think forgiveness is a requirement.

What part of the lords prayer say only forgive tresspasses if the sinner asks you for forgiveness. it just says forgive those who tresspass against you.

 

[de-emerald]

I just imagine someone thinking, “How dare you put us into this situation!?” 😂 I don’t even think it is something to consider because Christ has already paid the price. We are redeemed.

Well i think it is worth it but thats my view. your welcome to yours, christ did pay the price and its worth mentioning just for that reason.

THeres many more reasons its worth mentioning a big reason is sexism blame and fruitless behavior. and of course ignorance.

 

[de-emerald]

Yes, I forgive them.

I inherited a sinful nature thanks to them, but glory to God! He saw our hopeless state, which was through no fault of our own, and made the way for our salvation. That's justice!

If the problem has been corrected, why harbor ill-will?

So true but many are stuck on this topic of adam and eve and will never move on. theres a few here that just wont let it go.

 

[de-emerald]

Interesting. I don't know how you are supposed to forgive an event so remote. There is also a school of thought that we were in Adam, so to speak, when he sinned, so we share his guilt. This link gives a good explanation.

The principle is the same as shown in Hebrews in relation to Levi and Aaron. Levi is said to have been "in the loins" of Aaron. It could just as easily be said that all mankind was in the loins of Adam.

Let's not be too quick to judge Adam and Eve. How well would we have done in the same situation?

exactly.

 

[de-emerald]

lol smh

what does smh mean ?

 

[de-emerald]

I put yes but it really has nothing to do with us. After the fall, they still relied on God for their guidance. This was their saving faith. God did not abandon them but remained with them. It matters not rather we forgive them or not. They are forgiven by God, and therefore, our opinion is pointless.

I think it does have everything to do with us today and i think it does matter whether we forgive them or not. our opinion is never pointless on the subject of forgiveness.

 

[Runningman]

What part of the lords prayer say only forgive tresspasses if the sinner asks you for forgiveness. it just says forgive those who tresspass against you.

I just mean the Lord's prayer doesn't tell the Christian to forgive those who trespass against us. It's asking the Father to forgive us as we forgive those who trespass against us. It doesn't establish a doctrine of unconditional forgiveness to others.

 

[de-emerald]

I just mean the Lord's prayer doesn't tell the Christian to forgive those who trespass against us. It's asking the Father to forgive us as we forgive those who trespass against us. It doesn't establish a doctrine of unconditional forgiveness to others.

I dont know how you can even mention unconditional forgiveness from the lords prayer. The lords prayer is based upon a requirment and a commandment

I know where your going with this one, your now going to say Gods love is unconditional.

The lords prayer is a commandment a requirmentment Of Gods love.

The lords prayer is not judgeing you but clearly instructing you to forgive people who tresspass against you. Its still unconditional because its your choice ultimately.
But quite clearly its not the choice of Jesus to not forgive those who tresspass against him. anyway peace to you brother

 

[tourist]

It is not up to us to forgive Adam and Eve.

This is correct. It is really not our place to do so.

 

[Runningman]

I dont know how you can even mention unconditional forgiveness from the lords prayer. The lords prayer is based upon a requirment and a commandment

I know where your going with this one, your now going to say Gods love is unconditional.

The lords prayer is commandment a requirmentment Of Gods love.

The lords prayer is not judgeing you but clearly instructing you to forgive people who tresspass against you. Its still unconditional because its your choice ultimately.
But quite clearly its not the choice of Jesus to not forgive those who tresspass against him. anyway peace to you brother

I don't see it then. Where does it say or imply Christians are required to forgive everyone unconditionally? I mean, that sounds great doesn't it? But where is the actual command. If you find it let me know.

 

[SophieT]

I have decided that i will forgive the sin of adam and eve. Ive voted Yes.
Lol i thought someone may say this, have you answered yet anyway.

well I did actually. see my post 8

 

[de-emerald]

This is correct. It is really not our place to do so.

I believe it is and we should that is all

 

[de-emerald]

well I did actually. see my post 8

I don't see it then. Where does it say or imply Christians are required to forgive everyone unconditionally? I mean, that sounds great doesn't it? But where is the actual command. If you find it let me know.

Like i said the lords prayer says forgive those who tresspass against you, which is unconditional. because the lords prayer doesnt say you have to recieve repentance first which is conditional.

 

[de-emerald]

well I did actually. see my post 8

oh yes sorry i see that now.

 

[soberxp]

Should we forgive Satan ?
I think I can

 

[Nehemiah6]

should we forgive adam and eve for there sin which did lead to a tresspass against all mankind ?

Adam and Eve do not need forgiveness from humanity and there is nothing in the Bible to even hint at this.

 

[Nehemiah6]

Should we forgive Satan ?
I think I can

You can, but God cannot (and will not), since He has already prepared Hell for the devil and his angels. So where does that leave you?

 

[soberxp]

You can, but God cannot (and will not), since He has already prepared Hell for the devil and his angels. So where does that leave you?

I think it's strange that God orders women and Satan are enemies of each other.
Jesus teachs us love your enemy.
So........If you love your enemy, why throw them into lake of fire

 

[SophieT]

Like i said the lords prayer says forgive those who tresspass against you, which is unconditional. because the lords prayer doesnt say you have to recieve repentance first which is conditional.

whaaaa? cannot frame a reference to any post I made....

 

[SophieT]

I think it's strange that God orders women and Satan are enemies of each other.
Jesus teachs us love your enemy.
So........If you love your enemy, why throw them into lake of fire

gaaaaa....boggles the mind it does