In
Matthew 24:12-13 KJV, Jesus contrasts two groups: (1) those that "shall endure to the end" and are "saved", and (2) the "many" who allow their love to grow cold because of widespread iniquity.
STOP!!!
At this time, please take a moment to acknowledge what you
and everyone else believes about these "many":
that they are the wicked who were never saved
and will end up lost.
Except, that these "many" are indeed
saints!
How do we know?
Jesus said their
"love" (Greek: "AGAPE") would grow cold and
only the saints can partake of "agape"!
How do we know?
John says the agape of God is demonstrated by the keeping of His commandments (1 John 5:3 KJV) while Paul says the wicked absolutely cannot keep God's commandments even if they wanted to (Romans 8:7 KJV)!!!
Now, at this time, you are reconsidering what you acknowledged a few seconds ago:
that the "many" whose agape grows cold and dead are going to be lost.
When you thought the "many" were the wicked, you had no problem understanding they would be lost
in contrast to those who will endure to the end and are saved,
but now that I've proven these "many" can't possibly be the "wicked" - but are saints who will end up lost -
you're now stumbling over yourself to find a way to make them "saved"
because of your preconceived belief in OSAS.
Shame on you. You know full well that we are never to approach the Bible with preconceived notions and search for texts that prop up our doctrine, but we are to pray for the Holy Spirit to "guide you into all truth", come what may. Well, what has come is the death of OSAS. What are you going to do about it?
I think it’s confusing when people think his commandments are those in the ot . And don’t realize it’s what Jesus taught us to do that are Gods commandments
so I would say the answer to your question of how de we know is answered by the apostle John in his first epistle to the church
Johns epistles in many ways outshine the apostle Paul’s whole collection they both have glory and edification but sometimes johns word is what we need
“
Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid down his life for us: and
we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren.
But
whoso hath this world's good, and seeth his brother have need, and shutteth up his bowels of compassion from him, how dwelleth the love of God in him?
My little
children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth. And hereby we know that we are of the truth, and shall assure our hearts before him.
For if our heart condemn us, God is greater than our heart, and knoweth all things. Beloved, if our heart condemn us not, then have we confidence toward God.
And
whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight.
And
this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.
And
he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.”
1 John 3:16-24 KJV
John isn’t talking about any promise Moses made for his words or the Ten Commandments , he is directly talking about what Jesus said about his own gospel when he was teaching his disciples . John says godly love is loving others in “deed and truth “ and not merely in word and thought .
James says the exact same thing pertaining to real living faith using the same example dorectly from Jesus doctrine and not Moses law
“For he shall have judgment without mercy, that hath shewed no mercy; and mercy rejoiceth against judgment. What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him? If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food, And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit? Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.”
James 2:13-17 KJV
I think the reason we need to believe in Jesus is because his words are the ones God requires Moses also wrote this in the law that “ God would raise up another prophet from Israel’s sons and he would speak the word of God to them that they would have to hear and believe “
The ot tells us thy Christ would set judgement in the earth before he died and rose . So it’s important that we seperate Moses anti commandments made for sinners , and Jesus commandments of eternal
Life that give those promises of the Holy Spirit , inheritance of the eternal kingdom of God , the resurrection. Ect
Moses law meant if they kept it they would have blessed crops on earth and then later die . The gospel means we’re promised everlasting life when we part from the flesh we need to keep and learn from Jesus words like helping the ooor and needy or the widow and orphans the lonely and troubled needing comfort or hungry needing food
the left out and looked over with no help . Jesus teaches us to walk in life as e Good Samaritan helping those in need of what we have to help with Moses taught ordinances and carnal commandments meant for Israel’s children whom never repented
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