Support Israel? Yes or No? And Why?

[Truth7t7]

Smh you're way out in left field. Job has no bearing on this. Use David, or Moses, Job wasn't defending anyone. He has nothing to do with this. You totally don't understand the conversation here.

The conversation is, any poster that disagrees with your Christian Zionism is Antisemetic

 

[randyk]

Obama being one of the first to say this. But check out my post 1300. When I speak of a Christian nation I speak of foundation and history. Not the current culture. The culture has changed for generations but so far the foundation still stands. It could very soon be uprooted but not yet.

You didn't answer my question. Do *you* believe we should be an exclusively Christian country, ie a Christian country that excludes non-Christian religious practices that we consider to be "sin?*

 

[Truth7t7]

The church gets all the blessing, Jews get all the curses. Then people say it's not anti -Semitic.

Hey your catching on

All Jews, Caucasians, Hispanics, Chinese, Africans, that deny Jesus Christ And His Finished Work On Calvary get the curse, ending in the Lake of Fire

All those ethnic groups above that believe, repent, and receive, the finished working Calvary, become the Church and receive the blessing ending in the Eternal kingdom in the New Heaven and Earth

 

[OldSage]

More like the focal point of prophecy surrounds Jerusalem, and the Jews are its residents

You dont want to let go of that Christian Zionist dream, that all ethnic Jews will be saved, based upon their race and ethnic heritage, the ole two peoples of God, Jews/Church

LISTEN VERY CAREFULLY
Old Covenant Jews = Any 'ethnicity' person who is still mistakenly following the
Laws and teachings that God spake directly to Moses.
Why do they follow them still? Because they have a ZEAL for righteousness,
but they cannot see Christ.
Your job, lest you forget, is to show them Christ.

 

[Truth7t7]

LISTEN VERY CAREFULLY
Old Covenant Jews = Any 'ethnicity' person who is still mistakenly following the
Laws and teachings that God spake directly to Moses.
Why do they follow them still? Because they have a ZEAL for righteousness,
but they cannot see Christ.
Your job, lest you forget, is to show them Christ.

Judaism = Those that follow the teachings in the Talmud and Occultic Kabbalah evil books

Possibly a good reason why Revelation 11:8 likens the future spiritual condition of Jerusalem to Sodom & Egypt

The believer is commissioned to go into all the world and preach the gospel, without race or heritage included

 

[Roughsoul1991]

I'm not confused whatsoever, you claimed parts of the great tribulation have been fulfilled as seen below in your quote

Quote Roughsoul post #1320

"I did not say the fall of the temple was the tribulation period. It was only within the series of events to come. We are on a timeline where parts have already occurred."

My first sentence in my quote literally contradicts your statement. There are more prophecies than that related just to the tribulation period. For example, the Daniel 9 prophecy is the same way. It can have fulfilled areas but near the end we are still waiting on the last 7 or 7 year tribulation.

 

[Roughsoul1991]

You didn't answer my question. Do *you* believe we should be an exclusively Christian country, ie a Christian country that excludes non-Christian religious practices that we consider to be "sin?*

Because your question was irrelevant to the subject of fact and history, if you want to change topic and talk about what the Bible says about nations and government, then we can.

 

[Truth7t7]

My first sentence in my quote literally contradicts your statement. There are more prophecies than that related just to the tribulation period. For example, the Daniel 9 prophecy is the same way. It can have fulfilled areas but near the end we are still waiting on the last 7 or 7 year tribulation.

We will disagree, you did make a claim parts of the tribulation have occurred already, the horse is dead, it's all yours

Jesus Is The Lord

 

[OldSage]

Judaism = Those that follow the teachings in the Talmud and Occultic Kabbalah evil books

Possibly a good reason why Revelation 11:8 likens the future spiritual condition of Jerusalem to Sodom & Egypt

The believer is commissioned to go into all the world and preach the gospel, without race or heritage included

Seems like you don't want to let go of that old deep-seated Dark Ages ethnic hatred -
them Yarmulka boys gotta fry in the pit of hell, or get tortured in a Jesuit dungeon

 

[Truth7t7]

Seems like you don't want to let go of that old deep-seated Dark Ages ethnic hatred -
them Yarmulka boys gotta fry in the pit of hell, or get tortured in a Jesuit dungeon

More false cries of Antisemetism, from a poster that promotes the teachings of Christian Zionism in (Two Peoples Of God) found no place in the scripture.

 

[OldSage]

More false cries of Antisemetism, from a poster that promotes the teachings of Christian Zionism in (Two Peoples Of God) found no place in the scripture.

You are anti-semitic though.
You have twisted scripture more brutally than a Jesuit cabal, though with much less guile it must be said, to indict the Jews for every ill under heaven. Be careful with that

 

[CS1]

it might be well to say now again, that those here who are having what is perceived hate for Jews and Israel may want to seek a different chat site. some comments have been over the top and some websites used to say in an underlining way you have some hate or and minimum resentment for Israel and Jews.

I don't know why nor do I care to hear it.

 

[Truth7t7]

it might be well to say now again, that those here who are having what is perceived hate for Jews and Israel may want to seek a different chat site. some comments have been over the top and some websites used to say in an underlining way you have some hate or and minimum resentment for Israel and Jews.

I don't know why nor do I care to hear it.

Your suggestion of myself hating Jews or Israel is 100% "False"

Posters Teaching Christian Zionism's in (Two Peoples Of God) is false, something you teach and believe

To oppose this false teaching is branded as Antisemitic, this being 100% false

Jesus Is The Lord

(Two Israel's Are Seen Below)

(1) Israel The Church, Children Of The Promised Seed

(2) National Ethnic Israel (Flesh)

The Church is the Israel of God, children of the promised seed

They which are the children of the flesh (Ethnic Israel) these are not the children of God

Romans 9:6-8KJV
6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all (1)Israel, which are of (2)Israel:
7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.
8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.

 

[soberxp]

Smh you're way out in left field. Job has no bearing on this. Use David, or Moses, Job wasn't defending anyone. He has nothing to do with this. You totally don't understand the conversation here.

I understand what I said,cuz God guide me to this way,
I used to have the same idea as you, accept the world rule,
but some of the world rule is not the rule of God,
Matthew
Chapter 5
46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?
47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?
48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
Galatians
Chapter 4
16 Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?
Luke
Chapter 6
27But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you,

Just ask you a question? If love your enemies without endure as Job,How is that possible?
THat's why God use Job to teach us a lesson about how to endure

 

[Truth7t7]

You are anti-semitic though.
You have twisted scripture more brutally than a Jesuit cabal, though with much less guile it must be said, to indict the Jews for every ill under heaven. Be careful with that

Your claims of Antisemitism are 100% "False" as you move to silence your opposition, as you promote Christian Zionism in (Two Peoples Of God) found no place in the Holy Scripture.

Jesus Is The Lord

(Two Israel's Are Seen Below)

(1) Israel The Church, Children Of The Promised Seed

(2) National Ethnic Israel

The Church is the Israel of God, children of the promised seed

They which are the children of the flesh (Ethnic Israel) these are not the children of God

Romans 9:6-8KJV
6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all (1)Israel, which are of (2)Israel:
7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.
8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.

 

[randyk]

Because your question was irrelevant to the subject of fact and history, if you want to change topic and talk about what the Bible says about nations and government, then we can.

I disagree. I do think it's relevant. But if you won't answer the question, fine.

 

[CS1]

Your suggestion of myself hating Jews or Israel is 100% "False"

Posters Teaching Christian Zionism's in (Two Peoples Of God) is false, something you teach and believe

To oppose this false teaching is branded as Antisemitic, this being 100% false

Jesus Is The Lord

(Two Israel's Are Seen Below)

(1) Israel The Church, Children Of The Promised Seed

(2) National Ethnic Israel (Flesh)

The Church is the Israel of God, children of the promised seed

They which are the children of the flesh (Ethnic Israel) these are not the children of God

Romans 9:6-8KJV
6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all (1)Israel, which are of (2)Israel:
7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.
8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.

I did not post my thread as an attachment with your post it was to the whole room as Moderator. You continue to troll and you will be banned again. it's that simple you continue to repost over and over again the same thing and it's ok can ban you, you will come back and will ban you again You are not causing me pain or discomfort. it's my job Good bye again

 

[Truth7t7]

I did not post my thread as an attachment with your post it was to the whole room as Moderator. You continue to troll and you will be banned again. it's that simple you continue to repost over and over again the same thing and it's ok can ban you, you will come back and will ban you again You are not causing me pain or discomfort. it's my job Good bye again

Your claim of myself being a Troll and "Previously Banned" is 100% False

Silence the opposition through false claims of Trolling and Antisemetism

To repost Gods words over is a crime

Gods words of truth, that dispels the false teachings in Christian Zionism's (Two Peoples) of God, that you believe and teach

The Church Is The Israel of God, Children Of The Promised Seed

Jesus Is The Lord

 

[TheDivineWatermark]

[re: My Post #1271 (#1262)] TheDivineWatermark said:
I had meant to ask @Roughsoul1991 if he has a response to this Post #1262... I know Truth7t7 won't have one.

I agree. Really nothing to say other than it is clearly evident this took place in AD 70. The place was practically leveled and the piles of rubble are still there today as the city built over or around it.

Okay, very good.

The reason I asked you, was because in T7t7's Post #1249 (which was a response to my original point in Post #1243 [pg63]), where he had started out by saying to me,

"Your "Preterist" claims are false"...

your "[emoji-]reaction" (whatever they are called) was the "Happy"-face one, as though perhaps you AGREED with his thought that I had been presenting the "Preterist" viewpoint (which I certainly was NOT). Just wanted to be sure to clear that up.

Yes, the passages I presented clearly show that certain aspects of the Olivet Discourse WERE INDEED referring to the events surrounding 70ad; whereas the majority of it is "far-future" (in the future "Trib years" / 7 years).

I did not say the fall of the temple was the tribulation period. It was only within the series of events to come. We are on a timeline where parts have already occurred.

Pretty much, yes!

Huh? Agree. Those scriptures are prophecy of future events that did occur in A.D. 70 it is in other passages where we learn of a tribulation period that is still to come.

Correct!

You are confused. The ad 70 event was not the tribulation in scripture.

Right on!

My first sentence in my quote literally contradicts your statement. There are more prophecies than that related just to the tribulation period. For example, the Daniel 9 prophecy is the same way. It can have fulfilled areas but near the end we are still waiting on the last 7 or 7 year tribulation.

Yes, that's it!



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T7t7 is simply applying things "willy-nilly," while giving little regard to what the text/texts is/are actually conveying.

The passages I supplied (spelled out) in Post #1262/1271 provide the info necessary to conclude that those certain things indeed took place in the very "near future" (to them, i.e. 70ad); rather than "far-future" as the OTHER aspects will occur (<--esp how Lk21:32 expresses, "TILL ALL be fulfilled" necessarily must INCLUDE the TWO very lengthy items that v.24a had already JUST spoken of)...

...and that is a matter of grasping the "chronology" and paying close attention to what the text is actually conveying.




Glad you also see it similarly to how I was showing in those Posts... I'm relieved your "Happy"-face reaction (on T7t7's Post #1249) was not a show of "agreement" with T7t7 that you thought I was presenting "Preterist" views, when I wasn't. Thanks for clarifying! = )

 

[kaylagrl]

I understand what I said,cuz God guide me to this way,
I used to have the same idea as you, accept the world rule,
but some of the world rule is not the rule of God,
Matthew
Chapter 5
46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?
47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?
48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
Galatians
Chapter 4
16 Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?
Luke
Chapter 6
27But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you,

Just ask you a question? If love your enemies without endure as Job,How is that possible?
THat's why God use Job to teach us a lesson about how to endure

So you're against any defense of your country. You don't think there should be a military. You think we shouldn't have stopped the Holocaust, we should have let more die. We shouldn't try to free people in communist countries, just let them be brutally murdered. Ok, I've heard your opinion, it's a rare one, but it's not backed up by the Bible. God sent people into battle and not only that, He made them win. But you're certainly entitled to your beliefs.