Does satan hide The Way to the Tree of Life? Do Cherubim hide the Tree itself?

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Remember what Jesus said " i give you the keys to the kingdom"
 
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Satan had the "lock"

Jesus has the keys.

When he tempted Jesus he said " i have the power to give the kingdoms of the earth to whom i will"

He is a liar.

Anything he " gives" is an illusion
I think satan was talking about the power we gave him.
 
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Are the Cherubim the illusion we asked for? A way to be about ourselves? But satan tries to hide The Way past the illusion?
Do Cherubim enable a Free Will choice to acknowledge God?
 

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I think satan was talking about the power we gave him.
we don't have power, Satan doesn't have power, and we never had power to give to anyone. not in the sense of ownership.

all power and all authority belongs to God, and He gives and allows us to use power in a space of time.
the power is borrowed, the authority is borrowed, the time is borrowed.

Satan knows his time is short, but we're not as wise as him. we think we can put things off forever.
 
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we don't have power, Satan doesn't have power, and we never had power to give to anyone. not in the sense of ownership.

all power and all authority belongs to God, and He gives and allows us to use power in a space of time.
the power is borrowed, the authority is borrowed, the time is borrowed.


Satan knows his time is short, but we're not as wise as him. we think we can put things off forever.
So what is up with this?


“Satan, who is the god of this world, has blinded the minds of those who don’t believe the Gospel.” (2 Corinthians 4:4)

“We know that the world around us is under the control of the evil one.” (1 John 5:19) “Who can win this battle against the world? Only those who believe that Jesus is the Son of God.” (1 John 5:5)

“Jesus gave his life for our sins, just as God our Father planned, in order to rescue us from this evil world in which we live.” (Galatians 1:4)

“The world offers only a craving for physical pleasure, a craving for everything we see, and pride in our achievements and possessions. These are not from the Father, but are from this world. And this world is fading away, along with everything that people crave. But anyone who does what pleases God will live forever.” (1 John 2:16-17)

“Satan, the ruler of this world, will be cast out.” (John 12:31)

“Jesus said, ‘The ruler of this world approaches. He has no power over me.’” (John 14:30)

“We are not fighting against flesh-and-blood enemies, but against evil spiritual rulers and authorities, and against mighty powers in this dark world.” (Ephesians 6:12)
 
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we don't have power, Satan doesn't have power, and we never had power to give to anyone. not in the sense of ownership.

all power and all authority belongs to God, and He gives and allows us to use power in a space of time.
the power is borrowed, the authority is borrowed, the time is borrowed.


Satan knows his time is short, but we're not as wise as him. we think we can put things off forever.
(49) Did Lucifer turn wisdom into death? Did we hand over our spiritual keys to participate? Did Adam and Eve have any memory of the Garden of Eden after falling? - The Bible (quora.com)
 

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Your quoting from somebody whos asked this question on the internet. Youll get all sorts of answers using google this way and youll end up being missled.

Its no wonder your confused. I wondered and couldnt understand some of your other questions earlier on you really do need to come of this topic i dont think its doing you any good.
 

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So what is up with this?


“Satan, who is the god of this world, has blinded the minds of those who don’t believe the Gospel.” (2 Corinthians 4:4)

“We know that the world around us is under the control of the evil one.” (1 John 5:19) “Who can win this battle against the world? Only those who believe that Jesus is the Son of God.” (1 John 5:5)

“Jesus gave his life for our sins, just as God our Father planned, in order to rescue us from this evil world in which we live.” (Galatians 1:4)

“The world offers only a craving for physical pleasure, a craving for everything we see, and pride in our achievements and possessions. These are not from the Father, but are from this world. And this world is fading away, along with everything that people crave. But anyone who does what pleases God will live forever.” (1 John 2:16-17)

“Satan, the ruler of this world, will be cast out.” (John 12:31)

“Jesus said, ‘The ruler of this world approaches. He has no power over me.’” (John 14:30)

“We are not fighting against flesh-and-blood enemies, but against evil spiritual rulers and authorities, and against mighty powers in this dark world.” (Ephesians 6:12)
see the book of Job -- this is authority/power granted by God, within boundaries, and for an appointed time.

my major point tho is we don't give him power. he's already more powerful than us. what we do is believe his deception and give in to our own lusts
 
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we don't have power, Satan doesn't have power, and we never had power to give to anyone. not in the sense of ownership.

all power and all authority belongs to God, and He gives and allows us to use power in a space of time.
the power is borrowed, the authority is borrowed, the time is borrowed.


Satan knows his time is short, but we're not as wise as him. we think we can put things off forever.
So that brings us to this point......what was the reason you worshipped and followed Satan?
Why did you do it?

Or do I have you mixed up with someone else and you never followed Satan.

Which is it?
 

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the ot law the things they were told tommake are only a pattern of the real things in heaven

“Who serve unto the example and shadow of heavenly things, as Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make the tabernacle: for, See, saith he, that thou make all things according to the pattern shewed to thee in the mount.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭8:5‬ ‭KJV‬‬

God called Moses up
And told him what things were to look like because it’s a shadow of the things in heaven a poor copy

the cherubims meaning are revealed in the New Testament and ot prophecy regarding the four creatures surrounding Gods throne look for the revelation of thkngs established in the law.


What the law has to say about Cherubims is a shadow or figure of the truth prophecy pertaining to christs kingdom reveals the truth

think of Jesus as the tree of life in the center of the throne

“And before the throne there was a sea of glass like unto crystal: and in the midst of the throne, and round about the throne, were four beasts full of eyes before and behind. And the first beast was like a lion, and the second beast like a calf, and the third beast had a face as a man, and the fourth beast was like a flying eagle.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭4:6-7‬ ‭KJV‬‬

those four creatures around the throne are cherubim To Know this we have to look at Ezekiels perspective of Gods throne looking from earth upward below the sea of glass. This is only my own thought but those creatures cover Over Gods glory with thier wings so like the shadow and example in the law of the ark covered by cherub wings is revealed later

“And I looked, and, behold, a whirlwind came out of the north, a great cloud, and a fire infolding itself, and a brightness was about it, and out of the midst thereof as the colour of amber, out of the midst of the fire. Also out of the midst thereof came the likeness of four living creatures. And this was their appearance; they had the likeness of a man.”
‭‭Ezekiel‬ ‭1:4-5‬ ‭KJV‬‬

This vision is from Ezekiel from earths perspective looking up into the kingdom from below that sea of glass John sees before the throne in heaven Ezekiel is seeing the same vision but from below without revelation

“As for the likeness of their faces, they four had the face of a man, and the face of a lion, on the right side: and they four had the face of an ox on the left side; they four also had the face of an eagle.

The appearance of the wheels and their work was like unto the colour of a beryl: and they four had one likeness: and their appearance and their work was as it were a wheel in the middle of a wheel.

As for their rings, they were so high that they were dreadful; and their rings were full of eyes round about them four.

And the likeness of the firmament upon the heads of the living creature was as the colour of the terrible crystal, stretched forth over their heads above. And under the firmament were their wings straight, the one toward the other: every one had two, which covered on this side, and every one had two, which covered on that side, their bodies.

And when they went, I heard the noise of their wings, like the noise of great waters, as the voice of the Almighty, the voice of speech, as the noise of an host: when they stood, they let down their wings.

And there was a voice from the firmament that was over their heads, when they stood, and had let down their wings. And above the firmament that was over their heads was the likeness of a throne, as the appearance of a sapphire stone: and upon the likeness of the throne was the likeness as the appearance of a man above upon it.

And I saw as the colour of amber, as the appearance of fire round about within it, from the appearance of his loins even upward, and from the appearance of his loins even downward, I saw as it were the appearance of fire, and it had brightness round about. As the appearance of the bow that is in the cloud in the day of rain, so was the appearance of the brightness round about. This was the appearance of the likeness of the glory of the Lord. And when I saw it, I fell upon my face, and I heard a voice of one that spake.”
‭‭Ezekiel‬ ‭1:10, 15-16, 18, 22-28‬ ‭

they are revealed as cherubim in chapter ten when he sees again the vision but it’s slightly changed now












“And it came to pass, that when he had commanded the man clothed with linen, saying, Take fire from between the wheels, from between the cherubims; then he went in, and stood beside the wheels. And one cherub stretched forth his hand from between the cherubims unto the fire that was between the cherubims, and took thereof, and put it into the hands of him that was clothed with linen: who took it, and went out.

And there appeared in the cherubims the form of a man's hand under their wings.

And when I looked, behold the four wheels by the cherubims, one wheel by one cherub, and another wheel by another cherub: and the appearance of the wheels was as the colour of a beryl stone.

And as for their appearances, they four had one likeness, as if a wheel had been in the midst of a wheel. ...And their whole body, and their backs, and their hands, and their wings, and the wheels, were full of eyes round about, even the wheels that they four had.

And every one had four faces: the first face was the face of a cherub, and the second face was the face of a man, and the third the face of a lion, and the fourth the face of an eagle.

And the cherubims were lifted up. This is the living creature that I saw by the river of Chebar.”
‭‭Ezekiel‬ ‭10:6-12, 14-15‬ ‭KJV‬‬

you see this also in revelation a revealed vision of the day of atonement in heaven , the cherubim gods thoer bodies with thier wings , cover thier eyes and hide the glory of God keeping it hidden in the early visions later God is revealed those creatures with eyes are on the earth and are revealing Gods glory through Christ and his gospel

think of Jesus as the tree of life that was hidden in the ot but revealed in the nt and those cherubim were keeping the way until he sent them into the earth after his resurrection

In the center of the cherubim revealed in the nt is the slain lamb

“And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭5:6‬ ‭KJV‬‬

as in adam we were expelled from Eden and the tree of life was forbidden and kept by the cherubim the nt offers a return to enter in past the flaming sword once forbidding us from life what Adam caused Christ offers reconciliation.

“He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭2:7‬ ‭KJV‬‬

it’s all about being redeemed and entered into the door past the flaming sword now Christ himself and his word is the tree of life by which we may eat and live forever his word and his body and blood

“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”
‭‭John‬ ‭5:24‬ ‭

“Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you: for him hath God the Father sealed.

And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst.

I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.”
‭‭John‬ ‭6:27, 35, 51‬

the tree of life is about having the knowledge of God inside and not the conflicting knowledge Satan introduced that’s a tree of death the gospel is the tree of life
 
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the ot law the things they were told tommake are only a pattern of the real things in heaven

“Who serve unto the example and shadow of heavenly things, as Moses was admonished of God when he was about to make the tabernacle: for, See, saith he, that thou make all things according to the pattern shewed to thee in the mount.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭8:5‬ ‭KJV‬‬

God called Moses up
And told him what things were to look like because it’s a shadow of the things in heaven a poor copy

the cherubims meaning are revealed in the New Testament and ot prophecy regarding the four creatures surrounding Gods throne look for the revelation of thkngs established in the law.


What the law has to say about Cherubims is a shadow or figure of the truth prophecy pertaining to christs kingdom reveals the truth

think of Jesus as the tree of life in the center of the throne

“And before the throne there was a sea of glass like unto crystal: and in the midst of the throne, and round about the throne, were four beasts full of eyes before and behind. And the first beast was like a lion, and the second beast like a calf, and the third beast had a face as a man, and the fourth beast was like a flying eagle.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭4:6-7‬ ‭KJV‬‬

those four creatures around the throne are cherubim To Know this we have to look at Ezekiels perspective of Gods throne looking from earth upward below the sea of glass. This is only my own thought but those creatures cover Over Gods glory with thier wings so like the shadow and example in the law of the ark covered by cherub wings is revealed later

“And I looked, and, behold, a whirlwind came out of the north, a great cloud, and a fire infolding itself, and a brightness was about it, and out of the midst thereof as the colour of amber, out of the midst of the fire. Also out of the midst thereof came the likeness of four living creatures. And this was their appearance; they had the likeness of a man.”
‭‭Ezekiel‬ ‭1:4-5‬ ‭KJV‬‬

This vision is from Ezekiel from earths perspective looking up into the kingdom from below that sea of glass John sees before the throne in heaven Ezekiel is seeing the same vision but from below without revelation

“As for the likeness of their faces, they four had the face of a man, and the face of a lion, on the right side: and they four had the face of an ox on the left side; they four also had the face of an eagle.

The appearance of the wheels and their work was like unto the colour of a beryl: and they four had one likeness: and their appearance and their work was as it were a wheel in the middle of a wheel.

As for their rings, they were so high that they were dreadful; and their rings were full of eyes round about them four.

And the likeness of the firmament upon the heads of the living creature was as the colour of the terrible crystal, stretched forth over their heads above. And under the firmament were their wings straight, the one toward the other: every one had two, which covered on this side, and every one had two, which covered on that side, their bodies.

And when they went, I heard the noise of their wings, like the noise of great waters, as the voice of the Almighty, the voice of speech, as the noise of an host: when they stood, they let down their wings.

And there was a voice from the firmament that was over their heads, when they stood, and had let down their wings. And above the firmament that was over their heads was the likeness of a throne, as the appearance of a sapphire stone: and upon the likeness of the throne was the likeness as the appearance of a man above upon it.

And I saw as the colour of amber, as the appearance of fire round about within it, from the appearance of his loins even upward, and from the appearance of his loins even downward, I saw as it were the appearance of fire, and it had brightness round about. As the appearance of the bow that is in the cloud in the day of rain, so was the appearance of the brightness round about. This was the appearance of the likeness of the glory of the Lord. And when I saw it, I fell upon my face, and I heard a voice of one that spake.”
‭‭Ezekiel‬ ‭1:10, 15-16, 18, 22-28‬ ‭

they are revealed as cherubim in chapter ten when he sees again the vision but it’s slightly changed now












“And it came to pass, that when he had commanded the man clothed with linen, saying, Take fire from between the wheels, from between the cherubims; then he went in, and stood beside the wheels. And one cherub stretched forth his hand from between the cherubims unto the fire that was between the cherubims, and took thereof, and put it into the hands of him that was clothed with linen: who took it, and went out.

And there appeared in the cherubims the form of a man's hand under their wings.

And when I looked, behold the four wheels by the cherubims, one wheel by one cherub, and another wheel by another cherub: and the appearance of the wheels was as the colour of a beryl stone.

And as for their appearances, they four had one likeness, as if a wheel had been in the midst of a wheel. ...And their whole body, and their backs, and their hands, and their wings, and the wheels, were full of eyes round about, even the wheels that they four had.

And every one had four faces: the first face was the face of a cherub, and the second face was the face of a man, and the third the face of a lion, and the fourth the face of an eagle.

And the cherubims were lifted up. This is the living creature that I saw by the river of Chebar.”
‭‭Ezekiel‬ ‭10:6-12, 14-15‬ ‭KJV‬‬

you see this also in revelation a revealed vision of the day of atonement in heaven , the cherubim gods thoer bodies with thier wings , cover thier eyes and hide the glory of God keeping it hidden in the early visions later God is revealed those creatures with eyes are on the earth and are revealing Gods glory through Christ and his gospel

think of Jesus as the tree of life that was hidden in the ot but revealed in the nt and those cherubim were keeping the way until he sent them into the earth after his resurrection

In the center of the cherubim revealed in the nt is the slain lamb

“And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭5:6‬ ‭KJV‬‬

as in adam we were expelled from Eden and the tree of life was forbidden and kept by the cherubim the nt offers a return to enter in past the flaming sword once forbidding us from life what Adam caused Christ offers reconciliation.

“He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭2:7‬ ‭KJV‬‬

it’s all about being redeemed and entered into the door past the flaming sword now Christ himself and his word is the tree of life by which we may eat and live forever his word and his body and blood

“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”
‭‭John‬ ‭5:24‬ ‭

“Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you: for him hath God the Father sealed.

And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst.

I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.”
‭‭John‬ ‭6:27, 35, 51‬

the tree of life is about having the knowledge of God inside and not the conflicting knowledge Satan introduced that’s a tree of death the gospel is the tree of life
Soooo, why don't we connect the dots with Cherubim causing the illusion?

Eyes observe ..cause wave collapse ..the illusion

You talk about them covering their eyes?

you see this also in revelation a revealed vision of the day of atonement in heaven , the cherubim gods thoer bodies with thier wings , cover thier eyes and hide the glory of God keeping it hidden in the early visions later God is revealed those creatures with eyes are on the earth and are revealing Gods glory through Christ and his gospel​

"And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, "

Good beasts?
 
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Revelation 2:7
He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.

OVERCOME THE ILLUSION
 
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I know you guys hate this photo ..but ..the Cherubim eyes ..and death ..the illusion

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Did God create everything virtually at first?

We don't know how to see the virtual because that would be seeing the guarded Tree of Life.

Either this entire physical reality is an illusion from Cherubim or just the parts that would be direct proof of God.

Corrupt flesh does not get into Heaven ..so I'm thinking this whole sub-reality is an illusion.

1 Corinthians 1:21
(KJV)
For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God

New Living Translation
Since God in his wisdom saw to it that the world would never know him through human wisdom,
 

Pilgrimshope

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Soooo, why don't we connect the dots with Cherubim causing the illusion?

Eyes observe ..cause wave collapse ..the illusion

You talk about them covering their eyes?​
you see this also in revelation a revealed vision of the day of atonement in heaven , the cherubim gods thoer bodies with thier wings , cover thier eyes and hide the glory of God keeping it hidden in the early visions later God is revealed those creatures with eyes are on the earth and are revealing Gods glory through Christ and his gospel​

"And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, "

Good beasts?
these beasts brother Ezekiel is looking from earth into heaven at Gods throne what I’m saying is this just forget my confusing words lol and try this consider that they are seeing the same vision one from earth one from heaven with closer revelation

“Also out of the midst thereof came the likeness of four living creatures. And this was their appearance; they had the likeness of a man. And every one had four faces, and every one had four wings.

As for the likeness of their faces, they four had the face of a man, and the face of a lion, on the right side: and they four had the face of an ox on the left side; they four also had the face of an eagle.

( Ezekiel is looking from the river Chebar on earth so he seas an expanse across the sky like a sea above him

...And above the firmament that was over their heads was the likeness of a throne, as the appearance of a sapphire stone: and upon the likeness of the throne was the likeness as the appearance of a man above upon it.

And I saw as the colour of amber, as the appearance of fire round about within it, from the appearance of his loins even upward, and from the appearance of his loins even downward, I saw as it were the appearance of fire, and it had brightness round about.

As the appearance of the bow that is in the cloud in the day of rain, so was the appearance of the brightness round about. This was the appearance of the likeness of the glory of the Lord.

And when I saw it, I fell upon my face, and I heard a voice of one that spake.”
‭‭Ezekiel‬ ‭1:5-6, 10, 26-28‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Those same four creatures now revealed further and closer because John is in the kingdom of heaven seeing his vision looking down into the earth so he sees the expanse before the throne and sees heaven looking into thy earth below . Johns vision is a revelation of Jesus Christ and his kingdom all the other prophets were always speaking of obscurely


“And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne. And he that sat was to look upon like a jasper and a sardine stone: and there was a rainbow round about the throne, in sight like unto an emerald.

And before the throne there was a sea of glass like unto crystal:

and in the midst of the throne, and round about the throne, were four beasts full of eyes before and behind.

And the first beast was like a lion, and the second beast like a calf, and the third beast had a face as a man, and the fourth beast was like a flying eagle.

And the four beasts had each of them six wings about him; and they were full of eyes within: and they rest not day and night, saying, Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭4:2-3, 6-8‬ ‭

do you see what I’m saying brother ? Revelation then shows us Jesus appearing revealed in heaven on the throne being hidden by those four creatures it’s why we never saw the lamb but only “ the likeness of one like a man “ or something like the son of man “ in daniels vision of these same events from yet another perspective

but see all of it comes together here when mankind was lost and there was no one to save us

“And I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open and to read the book, neither to look thereon.

And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.

And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭5:4-6‬ ‭KJV‬‬

I’m sorry it’s confusing but I know there’s a lot of information there
 
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Are the four beasts Cherubim causing an illusion to hide Christ?

Death without being able to be forgiven (The Way) is what satan was causing. Man always had the option to choose God and overcome the Cherubim through Faith/Law. satan went beyond the Cherubim and told us lies.
 

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Are the four beasts Cherubim causing an illusion to hide Christ?

Death without being able to be forgiven (The Way) is what satan was causing. Man always had the option to choose God and overcome the Cherubim through Faith/Law. satan went beyond the Cherubim and told us lies.
amen brother Enoch did it

By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.

But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God

1 must believe that he is,

2 and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭11:5-6‬ ‭KJV‬‬

that’s saving faith it’s what Jesus offers the same that Enoch had Jesus offers that faith to anyone willing to believe

“Verily, verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my saying, he shall never see death.”
‭‭John‬ ‭8:51‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”
‭‭John‬ ‭5:24‬ ‭

Jesus kept saying it again and again as he was teaching them the kingdom kept saying believe me , what I’m saying is Gods word of eternal life

“For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak. And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.”
‭‭John‬ ‭12:49-50‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Those cherubims were hiding Gods glory but the four gospels in the earth reveal the truth of Gods glory in Christ Jesus the lord

we can now look not to the mosaic law because we have what was before the law when men like Enoch , Noah and Abraham walked with him

“And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭5:24‬ ‭

“But Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord. These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭6:8-9‬ ‭

and we know also Abraham walked with God being named Gods friend and made the father of many nations. But when they died it wasn’t a scary sounding thing ot offered them hope actually

“Then Abraham gave up the ghost, and died in a good old age, an old man, and full of years;

and was gathered to his people.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭25:8‬ ‭KJV‬‬

There’s hope and promise at the point of many saints deaths God always was giving them promises beyond this life

“These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth.

For they that say such things declare plainly that they seek a country.

But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭11:13-14, 16‬ ‭

That’s the city he promised David for christs kingdom the new Jerusalem we shouldn’t be planning on a cold grave but a glorious place of life when we leave this dying flesh I sure do
 

TMS

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God was starting the Meaning of Life by not letting them eat from the Tree of Life. They would have had a free pass back into Heaven. The reason we are here is to Find God through The Way to the Tree of Life.
Jesus is the way the truth and the life. He is the ticket back to the tree of life.

Rev 21:10 And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,
Rev 21:11 Having the glory of God: and her light was like unto a stone most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal;
Rev 22:1 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.
Rev 22:2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.
Rev 22:3 And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him:

The Tree of Life is in the Holy City. The City in Heaven where Jesus dwells today.