Support Israel? Yes or No? And Why?

[Truth7t7]

You did not answer my question are all those scriptures in reference to you ? and are you an ultra Calvinist?

I have clearly answered you question, I'm saved and sealed by the Holy Spirit, and this is until the day of redemption

I don't argue the points of Calvinism, and don't really know his position

The scripture clearly teaches that when a person believes and is saved, they are sealed by God the Holy Spirit until the day of redemption, simple

John 10:27-30KJV
27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
30 I and my Father are one.

Ephesians 1:13KJV
13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

Ephesians 4:30KJV
30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption

 

[Truth7t7]

that applies to all who are saved YET we are not to Boast because those who are far off can come Back. YOu write off the Jews because you are al elticis

Your claim is false, there is a future remnant elect Jew that God foreknows, that will be saved according to the election of grace, not all ethnic Jews will be saved as many have suggested, only the Remnant Elect, that will be added to "Israel the Church"

When the last Soul has been added to the Church, then All Israel will be saved has been fulfilled

 

[kaylagrl]

Kayla,
I do love your fervency! When you lose your scales, you are going to be a force to be reckoned with for sure! It will happen. But maybe not until heaven. Just keep seeking truth. That's what I do.

Three points regarding your post:

1. "White supremacy" is not a thing. The term is pure propaganda. What was "white supremacist" about the site that I linked to?
2. Do you see any irony in the fact that soldiers who liberated the camps in Germany and Poland are automatically believed when they say there were a bunch of starving jews there. But sailors who say they were deliberately attacked by Israel have their testimony dismissed? Doesn't that strike you as odd? What could explain this duality? The answer is obvious once you're willing to see.
3. Pearl Harbor was allowed to happen because Roosevelt wanted to get into the war. This is LIHOP (Let IT Happen On Purpose). The Liberty was attacked by Israel in the hopes of attributing the attack to the Egyptians and thus draw America into the war. That is MIHOP (Make It Happen On Purpose). So, you are correct. They aren't the same. And we do know the Mossad motto is "Through deception we wage war". Their plan didn't work, but that's no problem for them - just say you're sorry and throw a little money at the victims and it's all good!

Is that what Proverbs 24:6 says? I don't think so, which is where the motto comes from.

There is soooo much evidence for the Holocaust Surf. Written, photographed, eye witnesses. Corrie Ten Boom, a Christian wrote "The Hiding Place". She and her family hid Jews. Someone told on them and the family themselves were arrested. She and her sister were sent to Ravensbrück. Her entire family died in the camps. She survived, but only because of a "glitch" in the clerical record. A week later all the women in her section were sent to the gas chambers. She wrote more books but The Hiding Place is her testimony of what she experienced with her sister. It's also a movie that you can watch for free on Youtube.

 

[kaylagrl]

I believe you are not whom you claim to be on this forum. I know you.
And yes God has and will breach His own promise or covenant when
the other party forsakes it.

No you won't, you will not lie about an upstanding member here. Post and I clash on some things, but I utterly respect this member as do many people here. I have been here for years and have never seen anything that could besmirch Posts character. You need to apologize and retract that comment.

Secondly, you're utterly wrong. God said His covenant was everlasting. How did God make this covenant? Do you know?

 

[Live4Him]

I said "IF you want to support that".

Do I support the United States?

Normally, "NO!"

This is an exceedingly wicked nation, BUT there are some good people in it. I support the good, and oppose the evil, which ought to be a general rule of thumb for Christians.

I definitely pray for America's repentance, and for everyone's repentance, because God commands all men everywhere to repent (Acts 17:30).

All men.

Everywhere.

God is no respecter of persons, and neither should we be.

It's really that simple.

Do I support the United States?

Normally, "NO!"

Bye.

See you.

Here's a little something for you to read on your trip:

https://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/is-god-giving-america-up.197885/page-2#post-4508933

 

[kaylagrl]

Your claim is false, there is a future remnant elect Jew that God foreknows, that will be saved according to the election of grace, not all ethnic Jews will be saved as many have suggested, only the Remnant Elect, that will be added to "Israel the Church"

When the last Soul has been added to the Church, then All Israel will be saved has been fulfilled

Truth do you understand that I believe Jews will be saved the same way as we are? They must come through the cross, and they will. I don't believe they are saved another way. But they are blinded, for a time, then they will be saved.

 

[posthuman]

I believe you are not whom you claim to be on this forum. I know you.
And yes God has and will breach His own promise or covenant when
the other party forsakes it.

Show me in Genesis 9 what is the part of the covenant that all the earth and every living thing in it is supposed to keep?

What's 'our end of the deal' that we need to hold up?

 

[posthuman]

And yes God has and will breach His own promise

So you believe God will flood the whole earth again?

 

[Truth7t7]

"God's replacement theology"

Matthew 21:43
Therefore say I unto you,
The kingdom of God shall be taken from you,
and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.

It can't be any more plain and simple, God has taken the Kingdom from them, in their denial of Jesus as the Christ as Messiah

 

[Truth7t7]

So you believe God will flood the whole earth again?

2 Peter 3:6-7KJV
6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

 

[posthuman]

It can't be any more plain and simple, God has taken the Kingdom from them, in their denial of Jesus as the Christ as Messiah

Many of those He gave it to are Israel. He took it from the pharisees and teachers of the law and gave it to a people who was formerly not a people, drawn from many waters. Including Jews: not every branch was broken off

 

[Lucy-Pevensie]

Do you pray for the enemies of the Kingdom of God?

Some of today's enemies of The Kingdom are tomorrow's members of The Kingdom.

Remember a certain Saul of Tarsus?

 

[Truth7t7]

Truth do you understand that I believe Jews will be saved the same way as we are? They must come through the cross, and they will. I don't believe they are saved another way. But they are blinded, for a time, then they will be saved.

Kayla do you understand that the scripture clearly teaches only the Remnant Elect Jew, those whom God Foreknew will be saved and obtain salvation, not all ethnic Jews as you teach and believe

 

[Truth7t7]

Many of those He gave it to are Israel. He took it from the pharisees and teachers of the law and gave it to a people who was formerly not a people, drawn from many waters. Including Jews: not every branch was broken off

The Nation bringing forth the fruit is the Church

Matthew 21:43KJV
43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.

 

[posthuman]

2 Peter 3:6-7KJV
6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

That says fire.

Do you believe God revoked Genesis 9 or not?

 

[kaylagrl]

Kayla do you understand that the scripture clearly teaches only the Remnant Elect Jew, those whom God Foreknew will be saved and obtain salvation, not all ethnic Jews as you teach and believe

No, I believe the Jews will recognize the Messiah after the anti- Christ betrays them. I believe that remnant of Jews will be saved. Not Gentiles, not the church but Jews.

 

[posthuman]

The Nation that is spoken of is the Church

Israel is the wife of YHWH.
The Church is the betrothed Bride of Christ.
Christ is YHWH manifest in the flesh.
God is God and will not forsake His people - else there is no salvation for anyone.

 

[posthuman]

Israel is the wife of YHWH.
The Church is the betrothed Bride of Christ.
Christ is YHWH manifest in the flesh.
God is God and will not forsake His people - else there is no salvation for anyone.

Judges 19:3
Then her husband arose and went after her, to speak kindly to her [and] bring her back, having his servant and a couple of donkeys with him.

Who does this "certain Levite" represent, and who is his adulterous wife?

 

[Truth7t7]

That says fire.

Do you believe God revoked Genesis 9 or not?

The promise in Genesis 9 is that God wont flood the earth again, and the rainbow is a sign of this promise

Do I believe the word covenant should be promise, yes

 

[Truth7t7]

Israel is the wife of YHWH.
The Church is the betrothed Bride of Christ.
Christ is YHWH manifest in the flesh.
God is God and will not forsake His people - else there is no salvation for anyone.

It appears that you have two different peoples of God, a wife and a betrothed bride?