The Father Of Roman Catholicism, Emperor Constatine The Great

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GodMyFortress said:
Well feel free to not to ask saints in heaven to pray for you. I don’t care. We interpret this matter differently.
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that interpretation is very much unbiblical and was created to fleece the flock. To extort money from the people by taking advantage of their ignorance.


This is why the RCC and other like will have much to answer for. In one way you can't prove it is biblical to pray to dead people but then say to justify it " you don't have to if you don't want to. Where does God fit into all this what I want to do over what HE said not to do?
 
GodMyFortress said:
I’m not pushing anything on anyone. Y’all are asking me questions about what I believe and I’m responding. I’m even saying it’s fine if we don’t agree with each other. If you don’t want to know what I believe then don’t ask me.
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I did not ask.
 
CS1 said:
that interpretation is very much unbiblical and was created to fleece the flock. To extort money from the people by taking advantage of their ignorance.


This is why the RCC and other like will have much to answer for. In one way you can't prove it is biblical to pray to dead people but then say to justify it " you don't have to if you don't want to. Where does God fit into all this what I want to do over what HE said not to do?
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As I’ve said a few times now, I have read the Bible and came to a different conclusion than you do about some things. Since you are a fallible human being, I’m allowed to disagree with you. I don’t care if you believe what I believe.
 
GodMyFortress said:
So there are no saints in heaven?
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saints in heaven have nothing to do with one alive on earth prayer to them for help. are you suggesting that saints who passed on can do for us what Jesus is doing?
Let me ask you who has more authority Mary or Jesus? or Peter or Paul?
 
Magenta said:
I did not ask.
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Fair enough, I was mainly referring to the others I’m talking to. But if you’re going to make statements like there are no scriptural arguments for those things, I don’t see what’s wrong with me telling you I can provide them for you.
 
GodMyFortress said:
As I’ve said a few times now, I have read the Bible and came to a different conclusion than you do about some things. Since you are a fallible human being, I’m allowed to disagree with you. I don’t care if you believe what I believe.
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that is not the same thing we are noting about a different conclusion but the historical context of the RCC and praying and paying for dead people to pray for is biblical?
 
CS1 said:
saints in heaven have nothing to do with one alive on earth prayer to them for help. are you suggesting that saints who passed on can do for us what Jesus is doing?
Let me ask you who has more authority Mary or Jesus? or Peter or Paul?
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Jesus for the first question, Peter for the second question.
 
CS1 said:
that is not the same thing we are noting about a different conclusion but the historical context of the RCC and praying and paying for dead people to pray for is biblical?
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I just explained to you why I believe you can ask any Christian to pray for you. We’re all one in the body of Christ. That’s my opinion. You clearly don’t believe that so I’m not sure why you keep asking me about it.
 
GodMyFortress said:
Fair enough, I was mainly referring to the others I’m talking to. But if you’re going to make statements like there are no scriptural arguments for those things, I don’t see what’s wrong with me telling you I can provide them for you.
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I don't need you to provide them for me, or for you to pretend I have never seen them before.

Catholic Marian dogmas and beliefs are sickening.
 
GodMyFortress said:
I just explained to you why I believe you can ask any Christian to pray for you. We’re all one in the body of Christ. That’s my opinion. You clearly don’t believe that so I’m not sure why you keep asking me about it.
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you can't ask a dead one to pray for you. they all-knowing they are just like God?
 
GodMyFortress said:
I just explained to you why I believe you can ask any Christian to pray for you. We’re all one in the body of
Christ. That’s my opinion. You clearly don’t believe that so I’m not sure why you keep asking me about it.
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Asking other Christians to pray for you is Biblical. Praying to dead people is not.

Clearly there is much you do not understand.
 
GodMyFortress said:
Mary has no authority. Jesus is our God and has the authority.
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Thank you for that truth we agree on Jesus is ALL authority and mary can't hear or answer prayers without authority. Mary has none therefore she can do nothing for us here on earth.
 
Magenta said:
Asking other Christians to pray for you is Biblical. Praying to dead people is not.

Clearly there is much you do not understand.
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You just don’t agree with our interpretations nor do you believe sacred tradition is the word of God which also informs us on this matter. So you come to a different conclusion.
 
GodMyFortress said:
You just don’t agree with our interpretations nor do you believe sacred tradition is the
word of God which also informs us on this matter. So you come to a different conclusion.
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Catholic tradition is NOT the Word of God. Jeepers. See how you twist what is not Biblical to say it is???

That is a pretty big problem within Catholicism.

And now I must be about my day. See you later :)
 
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