Are WOMEN Pastors Biblical??

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OrphanedRepublican said:
To be disobedient, brazen and presumptuous is a shame. That's why I would be very offended if anyone ever asked me to become a pastor in their church. (Not that anyone would)

I hear many say they are answering a "calling" to preach. If I should ever hear a "calling" for that, I would rely on the gift of discerning of spirits. God does not call women to disobey his commandments. But I think we all know who does.
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I Agree 110%, And Persons Who Claim Women Can Preach And Teach From The Church Pulpit Fit Your Description :)

Gods Words Are Very Clear On A Womans Role In The Church, And They Aren't Changing Anytime Soon.

Silence, Subjection, Obedience

(It Is A Shame For Women To Speak In The Church)

1 Timothy 2:11-14KJV
11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.

1 Corinthians 14:33-35KJV
33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law.
35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
 
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OrphanedRepublican said:
To be disobedient, brazen and presumptuous is a shame. That's why I would be very offended if anyone ever asked me to become a pastor in their church. (Not that anyone would)

I hear many say they are answering a "calling" to preach. If I should ever hear a "calling" for that, I would rely on the gift of discerning of spirits. God does not call women to disobey his commandments. But I think we all know who does.
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There is nothing presumptuous about answering God’s call. Neither is there anything brazen, nor disobedient.
 
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Dino246 said:
There is nothing presumptuous about answering God’s call. Neither is there anything brazen, nor disobedient.
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Quote OrphanedRepublican:

"God does not call women to disobey his commandments."

Gods Words Are Very Clear On A Womans Role In The Church, And They Aren't Changing Anytime Soon.

Silence, Subjection, Obedience

(It Is A Shame For Women To Speak In The Church)

1 Timothy 2:11-14KJV
11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.

1 Corinthians 14:33-35KJV
33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law.
35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
 
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OrphanedRepublican said:
True, if it's God's call. But, he won't call us to disobey his commandments.
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God does not call women to the Church pulpit, its contrary to his words below

Gods Words Are Very Clear On A Womans Role In The Church, And They Aren't Changing Anytime Soon.

Silence, Subjection, Obedience

(It Is A Shame For Women To Speak In The Church)

1 Timothy 2:11-14KJV
11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.

1 Corinthians 14:33-35KJV
33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law.
35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
 
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Dino246 said:
Correct. However, there is no commandment that keeps women from being pastors or preachers. :)
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Your claim is false, unless a woman is a pastor in a Church performing sign language :giggle:

Gods Words Are Very Clear On A Womans Role In The Church, And They Aren't Changing Anytime Soon.

Silence, Subjection, Obedience

(It Is A Shame For Women To Speak In The Church)

1 Timothy 2:11-14KJV
11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.

1 Corinthians 14:33-35KJV
33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law.
35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
 
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Dino246 said:
Correct. However, there is no commandment that keeps women from being pastors or preachers. :)
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Very simple questions, why do you evade a simple answer :giggle:

1. Do you believe practicing homosexuals should be allowed membership in denominational churches?

2. Do you believe practicing homosexuals should be allowed positions of leadership within the church, teachers, deacons, pastors?
 
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Dino246 said:
Correct. However, there is no commandment that keeps women from being pastors or preachers. :)
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You have a very different understanding of the scriptures than I do. I was wondering today if you're a mormon. But, I don't know how that church feels about women preachers.
 
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Major said:
YES it is my friend. The moment we accept Christ we receive the filling of the Holy Spirit!

1 Corth. 12"13...........
"For in one Spirit we were all baptized into one body—Jews or Greeks, slaves or free—and all were made to drink of one Spirit".

Ephesians 1>13 is even more specific about the exact moment we receive the Holy Spirit:
"In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit."

How can that be so hard to understand?????????

Now if you will take the time to read and study Acts 8 you will see that the CONTEXT is UNITY!

The presence of Peter and John kept the early church unified.

My friend, Evmur..........Remember, there was great animosity between Jews and Samaritans. If the church in Samaria had begun on its own, with no connection to the “Jewish” church, the church in Jerusalem would never have accepted it.

The Samaritans were known historically as corruptors of Judaism. So God made sure that Peter and John, apostles and Jews from Jerusalem, were present to witness the gift of the Spirit given to the Samaritans. God’s message: the church in Samaria was no heretical start-up. The Samaritans were part of the same church that had been started in Jerusalem, and they were filled with the same Spirit. Peter and John were eyewitnesses. Their testimony was clear: what happened in Samaria was not a separate religious movement. In this way, God prevented the early church from immediately dividing into different sects.

The Lord took pains to ensure the unity of the early church. Jesus had commanded the gospel to be preached in Samaria. Philip the evangelist obeyed that command, and God blessed. Whatever animosity existed between the Jews and the Samaritans was overcome by the unity of the Spirit. The church today should continue to “make every effort to keep the unity of the Spirit through the bond of peace”.

I am blessed to be able to help your Bible understanding. Please do not hesitate to ask if there are other questions you would like to be addressed.
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Were Paul's churches unified? the church today is not unified. Under the RCC it was unified, is the RCC therefore a Spirit filled church?

.... the fact that you have made up a creed does not mean the Southern Baptists are unified.
 
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Major said:
Because I know the error of their teachings first hand and as you say....you do not. So the question must be.....
Why do you support that which you do not know anything about???????
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the Holy Spirit is not the AOG ... I would have thought that was obvious.
 
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Christian doctrine 101 SAYS....For a man to want to be forgiven of his sin....he must first realize that he is a sinner and needs to be saved. It is then up to the Holy Spirit to convict that man of his sin and draw him to Christ.
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oh really ... that is man think
 
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The demonic endeavor to limit, rather than the godly supplication for restraint of, the authority of the daughter of God has decidedly been exceedingly affective.
 
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Evmur said:
oh really ... that is man think
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Evmur.....In John 16:8, Jesus promised to send the Holy Spirit:..........
“When [the Spirit] comes, he will convict the world concerning sin and righteousness and judgment”.

In this verse, we see a three-fold ministry the Spirit will perform in relation to the unsaved world. He will “convict” the world; that is, He will reprove it or show it to be wrong. This reproof will target three areas in which the world needs admonishing: sin, righteousness, and judgment.

As alwasys.....thank you for your post so as to allow me to help your Bible understanding.
 
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Evmur said:
the Holy Spirit is not the AOG ... I would have thought that was obvious.
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I would be blessed to be able to help you but in this case, I have NO idea what you are talking about.
 
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Evmur said:
Were Paul's churches unified? the church today is not unified. Under the RCC it was unified, is the RCC therefore a Spirit filled church?

.... the fact that you have made up a creed does not mean the Southern Baptists are unified.
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Some were admiring Paul, some were admiring Apollos, and some were admiring Cephas, or Peter. Paul tries to reassure the people in Corinth that they should only follow Christ. The answer is NO then as well as NO now.

If you actually think that the church was the Roman Catholic Church then you have a lot...a lot to learn my friend.

The Roman Catholic Church controlled religion, philosophy, morals, politics, art and education. This was the dark ages for true Christianity. The vital doctrines of Biblical Christianity had almost disappeared, and with the neglect of true doctrine came the passing of life and light that constitutes the worship of the One True God as declared in Christ.
 
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Mem said:
The demonic endeavor to limit, rather than the godly supplication for restraint of, the authority of the daughter of God has decidedly been exceedingly affective.
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But the daughter of God isnt preaching or teaching God's Church

Gods Words Are Very Clear On A Womans Role In The Church, And They Aren't Changing Anytime Soon.

Silence, Subjection, Obedience

(It Is A Shame For Women To Speak In The Church)

1 Timothy 2:11-14KJV
11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.

1 Corinthians 14:33-35KJV
33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law.
35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
 
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Truth7t7 said:
But the daughter of God isnt preaching or teaching God's Church

Gods Words Are Very Clear On A Womans Role In The Church, And They Aren't Changing Anytime Soon.

Silence, Subjection, Obedience

(It Is A Shame For Women To Speak In The Church)

1 Timothy 2:11-14KJV
11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.

1 Corinthians 14:33-35KJV
33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law.
35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
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I can't presume to know what God 'would never' do, unless He said, "I will never..." Himself.
 
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Mem said:
I can't presume to know what God 'would never' do, unless He said, "I will never..." Himself.
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No presuming, God does not call women to the Church pulpit, its contrary to his words below

Gods Words Are Very Clear On A Womans Role In The Church, And They Aren't Changing Anytime Soon.

Silence, Subjection, Obedience

(It Is A Shame For Women To Speak In The Church)

1 Timothy 2:11-14KJV
11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.

1 Corinthians 14:33-35KJV
33 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law.
35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
 
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