Why is the mark of the beast on the RIGHT HAND?

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JaumeJ

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As usual you nailed it. As far as I am concerned, we can close down the thread.

Do you also believe as I do that it will be a literal mark and that buying and selling means actually buying and selling?
If you are talking to me,, YES those who do not take the mark will not be able to buy or sell a thing.
 

EnglishChick

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Possibly. I can see a day when Islam and Catholicism merge. I would not be surprised to see Judaism join in as well.

I think a literal mark will e involved, a permanent mark. Because those who take the mark cannot repent and become born again. If it were an attitude of heart, well that can change, the holy spirit can lead people to repentance. So had to be more than that. Otherwise we get into the Calvinsim doctrine of some being chosen and others rejected when salvation has always been a free will issue
 

EnglishChick

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If you are talking to me,, YES those who do not take the mark will not be able to buy or sell a thing.
And they will be killed . Revelation makes that clear. I see no one being beheaded yet for refusing a vaccine therefore am confident it isn't the mark
 

JaumeJ

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And they will be killed . Revelation makes that clear. I see no one being beheaded yet for refusing a vaccine therefore am confident it isn't the mark
I say, Poirot, well done!" Yes, I agree with Hasstings.
 

Ahwatukee

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As usual you nailed it. As far as I am concerned, we can close down the thread.

Do you also believe as I do that it will be a literal mark and that buying and selling means actually buying and selling?
Good day, Kolistus,

I do indeed believe that it will be a literal mark. When God first called me at 14 years old, I was immediately drawn to end-time events and the book of Revelation. When the first ATM's began to appear I knew that this was relevant to the coming mark. Then came the Universal Product Code (UPC), followed by the Point of Sales system (POS) with the Verifone device for card swiping. And now we have the RFID technology.

Sweden has always been ahead of the world in regards to the cashless technology, using cards to make all of their purchases. Starting in around 2015, they began inserting people with RFID chips which are about the size of a grain of rice. Now people are being chipped in droves! And they are anxious and excited to receive it. They use it for building security, access to machines and now they are able to purchase their train tickets right on the train by having their hand scanned, as well as other purchases, which is buying . However, I believe that this device will evolve into something smaller and more applicable in preparation for that coming antichrist. I don't know if you have already seen this or not, as I have posted it here many times. But check out this secular video of what is happening in Sweden. This technology is a match for Revelation 13:16-17

I Put A Payment Chip In My Hand To Replace My Wallet - Bing video

Why human microchipping is so popular in Sweden | ITV News - Bing video
 

Kolistus

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Good day, Kolistus,

I do indeed believe that it will be a literal mark. When God first called me at 14 years old, I was immediately drawn to end-time events and the book of Revelation. When the first ATM's began to appear I knew that this was relevant to the coming mark. Then came the Universal Product Code (UPC), followed by the Point of Sales system (POS) with the Verifone device for card swiping. And now we have the RFID technology.

Sweden has always been ahead of the world in regards to the cashless technology, using cards to make all of their purchases. Starting in around 2015, they began inserting people with RFID chips which are about the size of a grain of rice. Now people are being chipped in droves! And they are anxious and excited to receive it. They use it for building security, access to machines and now they are able to purchase their train tickets right on the train by having their hand scanned, as well as other purchases, which is buying . However, I believe that this device will evolve into something smaller and more applicable in preparation for that coming antichrist. I don't know if you have already seen this or not, as I have posted it here many times. But check out this secular video of what is happening in Sweden. This technology is a match for Revelation 13:16-17

I Put A Payment Chip In My Hand To Replace My Wallet - Bing video

Why human microchipping is so popular in Sweden | ITV News - Bing video
I have seen this yes, I live next door to sweden. I find it fascinating that these people know about the book of Revelation and have heard the warnings from preachers about the chip potentially being the mark of the beast and still they are lining up to get the chip.
 

ResidentAlien

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I believe it's impossible to say what the mark will be at this point. However, I believe it specifies the right hand to prove that God knows the end from the beginning, and it tells us what to look for. The Antichrist will require the mark to be on the right hand; if it's not, it's not authorized. It will have to be on the right hand or forehead to authorize a person to buy or sell. This will be the Antichrist's preference. It most likely indicates allegiance to the Antichrist. Most military salutes are performed with the right arm as was the Nazi salute.
 

EnglishChick

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Clear? Cite a verse that says refusing the mark will get you killed.
Doesn't Revelation 20:4 allude to this?

The mark of the beast won't just be a mark on the body it will mean having to worship the beast. No worship of beast makes it likely those who refuse will be killed


This is why those whose names aren't yet in the Lambs book of life are at risk of receiving this mark. why we must pray for them!
 

EnglishChick

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Good day, Kolistus,

I do indeed believe that it will be a literal mark. When God first called me at 14 years old, I was immediately drawn to end-time events and the book of Revelation. When the first ATM's began to appear I knew that this was relevant to the coming mark. Then came the Universal Product Code (UPC), followed by the Point of Sales system (POS) with the Verifone device for card swiping. And now we have the RFID technology.

Sweden has always been ahead of the world in regards to the cashless technology, using cards to make all of their purchases. Starting in around 2015, they began inserting people with RFID chips which are about the size of a grain of rice. Now people are being chipped in droves! And they are anxious and excited to receive it. They use it for building security, access to machines and now they are able to purchase their train tickets right on the train by having their hand scanned, as well as other purchases, which is buying . However, I believe that this device will evolve into something smaller and more applicable in preparation for that coming antichrist. I don't know if you have already seen this or not, as I have posted it here many times. But check out this secular video of what is happening in Sweden. This technology is a match for Revelation 13:16-17

I Put A Payment Chip In My Hand To Replace My Wallet - Bing video

Why human microchipping is so popular in Sweden | ITV News - Bing video
It does seem likely it may be a chip

What is scary is that surely most people would be rioting and protesting and petitioning if this is our in place? We would think so. But am guessing this beast will be so convincing that many will be deceived by him, like They were deceived by that other antichrist, Hitler
 

ewq1938

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Doesn't Revelation 20:4 allude to this?
Scripture does not say refusal of the mark leads to death.

Rev 13:15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

Refusing to worship the image of the beast is a death penalty.


Rev 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
Rev 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

Refusing the mark isn't a death penalty. The only penalty is not being able to buy and sell which means no participation in the official economy. That would make life very hard but isn't something you will be killed for.

Here are people who refused the mark and survived:

1Th 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
1Th 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

Some Christians will survive and be changed and raptured after the Great Tribulation has ended, at the second coming. People who have taken the mark do not qualify to be raptured. Instead, the marked will suffer the wrath of God in the 7 vials.


The mark of the beast won't just be a mark on the body it will mean having to worship the beast. No worship of beast makes it likely those who refuse will be killed
Refusing the mark doesn't get you killed. All it does is exclude you from buying or selling.
 

Nehemiah6

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Refusing to worship the image of the beast is a death penalty.
Worshiping the image and taking the mark are all of one piece. So there is no need to split hairs. The death penalty would apply to all who defy the Antichrist.
 

ewq1938

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Worshiping the image and taking the mark are all of one piece. So there is no need to split hairs. The death penalty would apply to all who defy the Antichrist.
If that was correct, then no one would survive to be raptured. You are therefore incorrect.
 
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The right hand is a place of authority and your forehead is your intellect.

So if we give away our authority in Christ and shift our intellect from Him we receive the mark of the beast.

Remember the disciples asked if they could sit at His right hand. It is a place of authority.
 

Nehemiah6

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If that was correct, then no one would survive to be raptured. You are therefore incorrect.
The Rapture has nothing to do with the reign of the Antichrist. In fact, the Antichrist could not take total control of the world without the Church and the Holy Spirit being "taken out of the way" (removed from earth to Heaven). See 2 Thessalonians 2.
 

Truth7t7

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God has made most people right-handed, so the mark on the right hand symbolizes a commitment to work for the Antichrist. People may think they are working for themselves, whereas they will be working for the Antichrist, who has full control of their lives.
There's Going To Be An End Times Persecution, The Beast And His Kingdom Are The Target Of God's Empowered (Two Witnesses)

The Great Tribulation Will Come Upon The Wicked World, While The (Sealed Church) Is Protected

The (Sealed Church) will be present on earth and protected, when wicked men are tormented 5 months, desiring to die as death flees

All saved believers are (Sealed) by God, Eph 1:13, 4:30

Ephesians 1:13KJV
13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,

Ephesians 4:30KJV
30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.

It Was Commanded, Only Those Without God's Seal, The Sealed Church Is Protected

Revelation 9:3-6KJV
3 And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power.
4 And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.
5 And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man.
6 And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.

Plagues upon The Beast and his Kingdom, a remake of Moses/Aaron against Pharaoh of Egypt

Revelation 11:3-6
3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.
5 And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.
6 These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.

Revelation 16:1-11KJV
1 And I heard a great voice out of the temple saying to the seven angels, Go your ways, and pour out the vials of the wrath of God upon the earth.
2 And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshipped his image.
3 And the second angel poured out his vial upon the sea; and it became as the blood of a dead man: and every living soul died in the sea.
4 And the third angel poured out his vial upon the rivers and fountains of waters; and they became blood.
5 And I heard the angel of the waters say, Thou art righteous, O Lord, which art, and wast, and shalt be, because thou hast judged thus.
6 For they have shed the blood of saints and prophets, and thou hast given them blood to drink; for they are worthy.
7 And I heard another out of the altar say, Even so, Lord God Almighty, true and righteous are thy judgments.
8 And the fourth angel poured out his vial upon the sun; and power was given unto him to scorch men with fire.
9 And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give him glory.
10 And the fifth angel poured out his vial upon the seat of the beast; and his kingdom was full of darkness; and they gnawed their tongues for pain,
11 And blasphemed the God of heaven because of their pains and their sores, and repented not of their deeds.
 

Truth7t7

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Truth7t7

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The Rapture has nothing to do with the reign of the Antichrist. In fact, the Antichrist could not take total control of the world without the Church and the Holy Spirit being "taken out of the way" (removed from earth to Heaven). See 2 Thessalonians 2.
False, the Holy Spirit must be on earth for Tribulation saints to be saved and sealed

P.S. no such thing as a pre-trib rapture found in scripture, a false fabricated teaching if man

John N. Darby & Adulterer C.I. Scofield, are the fathers of this false teaching, better known as dispensationalism
 

Wansvic

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And they will be killed . Revelation makes that clear. I see no one being beheaded yet for refusing a vaccine therefore am confident it isn't the mark
Another clue that the vaccine is not the Mark of the Beast is seen in Rev. 13. Verses 8 and 15 indicate those taking it will be doing it as a form of worship. It will be required as a pledge of allegiance to the antichrist. Those who take it will have made a conscience decision that will ultimately end with their being lost for eternity.