Today’s church’s misunderstandings

[CS1]

We will disagree, The Lord rose on the Sabbath, prior to the Jewish dawning day that takes place in the evening

As the sun is going "Down" its dawning towards the new day, perpetual from creation, the evening starts and ends the day, darkness or night was before the day or light.

The Sabbath endear the going down of the Sun, not its rising as you suggest

Genesis 1:1-5KJV
1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

Matthew 28:1KJV
1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.

LOL, you can't use genesis to interpret the context of what happened when Jesu rose from the dead. it allegorizing the word of God to make it say what it doesn't say contextually about the resurrection of Christ.

Gen 1:1 has nothing to do with what the Bible says in

1. (Mk. 16:1-2).

When the Sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James, and Salome bought spices, so that they might go and anoint him. And very early on the first day of the week, when the sun had risen, they went to the tomb (Mk. 16:1-2).


2. (Lk. 24:1).

But on the first day of the week, at early dawn, they came unto the tomb, bringing the spices which they had prepared

3 (Jn. 20.1).



. Now on the first day of the week Mary Magdalene came to the tomb early, while it was still dark, and saw that the stone had been taken away from the tomb


That is not enough let's look at the Church after Jesus ascended.

Historical Testimony
It is the universal testimony of both Scripture and church history that the early Christians regarded Sunday as Christ’s resurrection day.

• The disciples met together on resurrection Sunday (Jn. 20:19), then on Sunday a week later (20:26).
• The church was established on Pentecost, which always came on Sunday (Lev. 23:15-16; Acts 2:1).
• The early Christians, under the leadership of inspired men, worshiped on Sunday (Acts 20:7; 1 Cor. 16:2).
• That day was later designated as “the Lord’s day” (Rev. 1:10).

There is far too much proof Biblically we don't have to create an unfounded biblical interpretation of what is given in the New Testament with Gen 1:1-5.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

LOL, you can't use genesis to interpret the context of what happened when Jesu rose from the dead. it allegorizing the word of God to make it say what it doesn't say contextually about the resurrection of Christ.

Gen 1:1 has nothing to do with what the Bible says in

1. (Mk. 16:1-2).

When the Sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James, and Salome bought spices, so that they might go and anoint him. And very early on the first day of the week, when the sun had risen, they went to the tomb (Mk. 16:1-2).


2. (Lk. 24:1).

But on the first day of the week, at early dawn, they came unto the tomb, bringing the spices which they had prepared

3 (Jn. 20.1).



. Now on the first day of the week Mary Magdalene came to the tomb early, while it was still dark, and saw that the stone had been taken away from the tomb


That is not enough let's look at the Church after Jesus ascended.

Historical Testimony
It is the universal testimony of both Scripture and church history that the early Christians regarded Sunday as Christ’s resurrection day.

• The disciples met together on resurrection Sunday (Jn. 20:19), then on Sunday a week later (20:26).
• The church was established on Pentecost, which always came on Sunday (Lev. 23:15-16; Acts 2:1).
• The early Christians, under the leadership of inspired men, worshiped on Sunday (Acts 20:7; 1 Cor. 16:2).
• That day was later designated as “the Lord’s day” (Rev. 1:10).

There is far too much proof Biblically we don't have to create an unfounded biblical interpretation of what is given in the New Testament with Gen 1:1-5.

I am astonished at those who want Jesus dead only 2 days not 3..

 

[CS1]

I am astonished at those who want Jesus dead only 2 days, not 3..

As you know any part of the day in Jewish culture is the day. If you are dead on that day you are dead no matter if it was one minute or 24 hours. The Gospel account is very clear Paul speaks about this in 1cor 15 also.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

As you know any part of the day in Jewish culture is the day. If you are dead on that day you are dead no matter if it was one minute or 24 hours. The Gospel account is very clear Paul speaks about this in 1cor 15 also.

Yes, And we know the DAY Jesus died. they had to remove his body because at sundown it was to be the sabbath. So he had to die on Friday. Which means if Jesus was correct about 3 days. He did not raise on the sabbath, as some want us to believe!

 

[Dino246]

churches preach this??

Bear in mind that Blik consistently makes statements without any evidence. When asked for evidence, she ignores you or changes the subject. Questioning her is fruitless as she can't back up anything she claims.

 

[Dino246]

We will disagree, The Lord rose on the Sabbath, prior to the Jewish dawning day that takes place in the evening

As the sun is going "Down" its dawning towards the new day, perpetual from creation, the evening starts and ends the day, darkness or night was before the day or light.

The Sabbath endear the going down of the Sun, not its rising as you suggest

Your defenses are getting increasingly nutty. A day is sundown to sundown. Sundown is not dawn. Your attempts to play with words will fail. You can disagree all you like, but it doesn't change the truth.

 

[Blik]

It is a wonder to me that so called Christians deny that the Lord created a day of rest called a Sabbath. It is a wonder that they state God cancelled that day when Christ was found to have arisen. Scripture does not make that connection, it is men who have connected those two events.

I doubt the Lord is telling us to fight about it, I think that is also something men have added to scripture. But to tell people it was the Lord who cancelled a Sabbath does not seem to have any connection with scripture. In fact, it is denying that scripture is truth to be believed.

 

[Dino246]

It is a wonder to me that so called Christians deny that the Lord created a day of rest called a Sabbath. It is a wonder that they state God cancelled that day when Christ was found to have arisen. Scripture does not make that connection, it is men who have connected those two events.

I doubt the Lord is telling us to fight about it, I think that is also something men have added to scripture. But to tell people it was the Lord who cancelled a Sabbath does not seem to have any connection with scripture. In fact, it is denying that scripture is truth to be believed.

This is another inane post. Nobody is denying that the Lord created the sabbath. When will you start showing integrity in your posts?

 

[Blik]

Bear in mind that Blik consistently makes statements without any evidence. When asked for evidence, she ignores you or changes the subject. Questioning her is fruitless as she can't back up anything she claims.

Back up your false accusation with facts. And you claim to be a Christian?
I have in the past put you on ignore because I find your posts are only aimed to establish that you are more intelligent than anyone else, not in speaking of the Lord. I find you expert at twisting scripture to try to prove your superiority rather than understanding the Lord.

 

[CS1]

It is a wonder to me that so called Christians deny that the Lord created a day of rest called a Sabbath. It is a wonder that they state God cancelled that day when Christ was found to have arisen. Scripture does not make that connection, it is men who have connected those two events.

I doubt the Lord is telling us to fight about it, I think that is also something men have added to scripture. But to tell people it was the Lord who cancelled a Sabbath does not seem to have any connection with scripture. In fact, it is denying that scripture is truth to be believed.

it is "Canceled" just to be clear and no one here has denied the lord Created a day of rest known as the Sabbath. No one is fighting. it is those like yourself who at like a snowflake and make false assumptions about the word of God when you can't see you were mistaken.

stop trying to build a false narrative.

 

[Blik]

This is another inane post. Nobody is denying that the Lord created the sabbath. When will you start showing integrity in your posts?

Then why are you x'ing posts that say there is a Sabbath? Explain your posts against the Sabbath. Then if someone responses to you, then you say how lily white and falsely accused you are, poor you. You are good at pointing fingers and condemning others, then claim you are so sin free, so wonderful that you are falsely accused of what you have stated.

 

[Blik]

it is "Canceled" just to be clear and no one here has denied the lord Created a day of rest known as the Sabbath. No one is fighting. it is those like yourself who at like a snowflake and make false assumptions about the word of God when you can't see you were mistaken.

stop trying to build a false narrative.

Are you denying that there are posts against the day God established as a Sabbath, accusing anyone who states God created the seventh day? There is even accusations of me for saying Genesis is scripture! I am attacked then even for defending myself. Do you also deny that attacks have been made?

 

[Dino246]

Back up your false accusation with facts.

Ladies first.

 

[Magenta]

I think you are mistaken about the purpose of the old covenant. It is simply leading the
people to obey the Lord, and that obedience comes after they ask forgiveness of sin.

They asked forgiveness on a regular basis but continued to disobey/sin.

You have some strange ideas that fly in the face of what Scripture records.

 

[Magenta]

Yes, And we know the DAY Jesus died. they had to remove his body because at sundown it was to be the sabbath. So he had to die on Friday. Which means if Jesus was correct about 3 days. He did not raise on the sabbath, as some want us to believe!

There were two Sabbaths that week... Jesus died on Passover, but was removed from the cross
before sunset, which began the High Sabbath, the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread.

 

[Magenta]

Back up your false accusation with facts. And you claim to be a Christian?
I have in the past put you on ignore because I find your posts are only aimed to establish that you are more intelligent than anyone else, not in speaking of the Lord. I find you expert at twisting scripture to try to prove your superiority rather than understanding the Lord.

That's funny. Not too long ago were were telling us what a wonderful guy you think Dino is.

But this should not surprise anyone who knows how contradictory you are on a very regular basis

 

[Mem]

Has it yet been established exactly what day Nisan 15 (passover) occurred that year? We could then count more accurate how many days and nights transpired from then until the weekly sabbath...as the passover lamb was being prepared (for, i.e. in anticipation for, that particular sabbath) as Jesus was being crucified. yes?

 

[Magenta]

Has it yet been established exactly what day Nisan 15 (passover) occurred that year? We could then count more accurate how many days and nights transpired from then until the weekly sabbath...as the passover lamb was being prepared (for, i.e. in anticipation for, that particular sabbath) as Jesus was being crucified. yes?

We do not know what year it was...

 

[Mem]

We do not know what year it was...

that's true... however, if we could search out the time frame for a day where the weekly sabbath was exactly three nights and three days count from a one particular passover, as it is always observed on nisan 15... we might more readily settle this dilemna

 

[Magenta]

that's true... however, if we could search out the time frame for a day where the weekly sabbath was exactly three nights and three days count from a one particular passover, as it is always observed on nisan 15... we might more readily settle this dilemna

It's very likely that many have tried some formula or another to arrive at the exact year and day etc, but to no avail, and the same goes for Jesus' birth. Also, there were two Sabbaths that week. Some appear to assume it is the weekly Sabbath being spoken of in terms of Jesus' death and removal from the cross, but that seems erroneous to me.