Jesus' death wipes out all our sins but our hearts are still defective. God takes care of that by reprogramming our hearts by filling it with love through His Holy Spirit. This is what perfects us and makes us acceptable to Him. We are no longer under the letter of the Law but under the Spirit of the Law. When you make choices with love in your heart, you will be obeying His commandments. If you have that love, you will know it because you can feel it. If you can't feel it, you don't have it and you need to pray to our Father that He will grant you His Holy Spirit to fill your heart with the same love that He shares with Jesus. It's a wonderful feeling having that love and knowing that being guided by His Holy Spirit in love means you are doing His will. It's not what you can do but what He can do through us.
Can you want to be saved and not be?
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Kojikun - I think my brevity will be your friend here.
Salvation is a gift from God. Jesus paid the price when hanging on the cross - you don't have to want salvation - it's all yours sweetie when you repent of your sins and believe that Jesus will save you. Believe that and no matter what Satan tells you or the world or whatever questions pop into your head - always remember that. We could NEVER earn our salvation.
Salvation is a gift from God. Jesus paid the price when hanging on the cross - you don't have to want salvation - it's all yours sweetie when you repent of your sins and believe that Jesus will save you. Believe that and no matter what Satan tells you or the world or whatever questions pop into your head - always remember that. We could NEVER earn our salvation.
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"No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him, and I will raise him up at the last day." - John 6:44
"Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me." - John 14:6
Neither you nor anyone else could come to Christ unless the Father is doing the drawing.
"Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in the heavenly realms with every spiritual blessing in Christ. For he chose us in him (Christ) before the creation of the world to be holy and blameless in his sight. In love he predestined us for adoption to sonship c through Jesus Christ, in accordance with his pleasure and will— to the praise of his glorious grace, which he has freely given us in the One he loves"
"In him we were also chosen, e having been predestined according to the plan of him who works out everything in conformity with the purpose of his will, in order that we, who were the first to put our hope in Christ, might be for the praise of his glory. And you also were included in Christ when you heard the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation. When you believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God’s possession—to the praise of his glory."
The word 'proorizo' translated as 'predestined' means to 'mark out before hand,' and that before the world began. The believer doesn't just decide one day that he/she is going to believe in Christ, but was chosen and marked out before the world began, to be holy and blameless in His sight. Not that we are holy and blameless in our own right, but when we believed we were credited with the Lord's righteousness and reconciled to God through Christ. As we continue from faith to faith, we are being transformed into the image of Christ. Furthermore, other scriptures state that those whom God chose, their names were written in the book of life before the world began. Likewise, there were names that weren't written.
"But what does it say? “The word is near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart,” that is, the message concerning faith that we proclaim: If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved."
If you are already a believer, then spend time in His word and in prayer. Pray that God would bless you with the opportunity for good works. Just remember that we are not saved by them. Rather seek to do good works to glorify God in the name of our Lord Jesus. And He also says that by our good works, that we are building up our treasures in heaven.
And as another poster already said, you could never do enough good works to be saved. It is our faith in what Christ did that saves us.
"Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me." - John 14:6
Neither you nor anyone else could come to Christ unless the Father is doing the drawing.
"Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in the heavenly realms with every spiritual blessing in Christ. For he chose us in him (Christ) before the creation of the world to be holy and blameless in his sight. In love he predestined us for adoption to sonship c through Jesus Christ, in accordance with his pleasure and will— to the praise of his glorious grace, which he has freely given us in the One he loves"
"In him we were also chosen, e having been predestined according to the plan of him who works out everything in conformity with the purpose of his will, in order that we, who were the first to put our hope in Christ, might be for the praise of his glory. And you also were included in Christ when you heard the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation. When you believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God’s possession—to the praise of his glory."
The word 'proorizo' translated as 'predestined' means to 'mark out before hand,' and that before the world began. The believer doesn't just decide one day that he/she is going to believe in Christ, but was chosen and marked out before the world began, to be holy and blameless in His sight. Not that we are holy and blameless in our own right, but when we believed we were credited with the Lord's righteousness and reconciled to God through Christ. As we continue from faith to faith, we are being transformed into the image of Christ. Furthermore, other scriptures state that those whom God chose, their names were written in the book of life before the world began. Likewise, there were names that weren't written.
"But what does it say? “The word is near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart,” that is, the message concerning faith that we proclaim: If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved."
If you are already a believer, then spend time in His word and in prayer. Pray that God would bless you with the opportunity for good works. Just remember that we are not saved by them. Rather seek to do good works to glorify God in the name of our Lord Jesus. And He also says that by our good works, that we are building up our treasures in heaven.
And as another poster already said, you could never do enough good works to be saved. It is our faith in what Christ did that saves us.
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Well than I definitely pray that I'm one of the chosen 
I know I cant earn my way (which is a good thing) I'm just very emotional sometimes 😭
I know I cant earn my way (which is a good thing) I'm just very emotional sometimes 😭
"For it is by grace you have been saved through faith, and this not from yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9not by works, so that no one can boast."
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What that means good Kojikun is Let us say I ask you to go with me to a store,you want to go to a store anyway then you will go with me is the point.What one wants badly enough to do,no matter what others say, you will do as you wish. And this dear brothers and sisters is the beginning of a leader,not a follower! I will make my own gain and mistakes,and never have to say I should never have listened to him or her! This is also the start of ones true character to me.
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Very Good Kojikun! As a King which our Good Lord is,he will appoint people to help guide others to him,that is us! As an ambassador to our King,we must first learn from him, and use his words not ours.( Rom 8:14-16) and ( 1 John 2:27) Remember Moses,he did not become a sheep,but rather a tender of the sheep. So it is with us,as the Lord leads!
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Hey Koji - ok, you've got three pages of conversation going on this topic and I don't think I've seen a direct answer to your question, which is what you probably need the most right now.
NO. No, God will not ignore your pleas for salvation, if you ask him to forgive you of your sins and live for him from this moment forward.
Any thoughts that tell you that God is not listening, that you've made him angry just one too many times - these thoughts come directly from Satan, who is trying desperately to discourage you. Pray continually/constantly to overcome these thoughts.
And I will pray for you in your illness right now. I pray that you do recover, and that God will use your recovery to be a great witness for his glory! Rest easy in the knowledge that he is in charge, no matter what happens and that your soul will be with him for eternity. Ten thousand years will not be long enough to praise him for what he has done for you. God bless you!
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