WHICH Bible "version" Is Authorized By God?

[Runningman]

I recommend avoiding the New World Translation. It's a corrupted version of the Bible used heavily by JWs.

 

[Dino246]

However many on this forum (and other Christian forums) fight this tooth and nail.

With good reason.

 

[Dino246]

This method places you as your own final authority on what God has said. I don’t want that responsibility. No thank you.

Instead you defer to a group of 16th century academics.

 

[Roughsoul1991]

Why would He have to do that? If one is the word of God, multiple ones create confusion, especially since they all disagree with different words and even different truths.

As I have stated. The KJV isn't the oldest or first English translation. It was simply translated from using prior manuscripts. Same as the newer versions today which actually contains the newer evidence like the Dead Sea Scrolls. The point is that a translation to English from a scroll or codex with less letters in their alphabet, gender words, no paragraphs, no chapters, no pronunciation, and cultural differences makes the meaning of words different. So translators with the best of their knowledge try to translate it as accurate to the majority of manuscripts through textual criticism. Often times English words differ but still get the point across.

I use the KJV, NKJV, NIV, ESV, NRSV, HCSB, among others. Why? Because I study the original language and then use what scripture best fits the meaning of each word.

For example, slave is usually called a bond servant. Some versions only use slave. When writing a study, I'll use the version that includes bond servant.

It isn't confusing once you understand how to study the Word.

 

[John146]

Instead you defer to a group of 16th century academics.

I believe the Holy Spirit guided them every step of the way.

 

[NotmebutHim]

As I've said in other threads on the subject, the KJV IS one of my favorite translations. However, I don't believe that it is (or should be) the hill that Christians should die on.

 

[John146]

As I have stated. The KJV isn't the oldest or first English translation. It was simply translated from using prior manuscripts. Same as the newer versions today which actually contains the newer evidence like the Dead Sea Scrolls. The point is that a translation to English from a scroll or codex with less letters in their alphabet, gender words, no paragraphs, no chapters, no pronunciation, and cultural differences makes the meaning of words different. So translators with the best of their knowledge try to translate it as accurate to the majority of manuscripts through textual criticism. Often times English words differ but still get the point across.

I use the KJV, NKJV, NIV, ESV, NRSV, HCSB, among others. Why? Because I study the original language and then use what scripture best fits the meaning of each word.

For example, slave is usually called a bond servant. Some versions only use slave. When writing a study, I'll use the version that includes bond servant.

It isn't confusing once you understand how to study the Word.

Do you understand that you are being the final authority of God's word? Do you want that responsibility?

 

[Roughsoul1991]

Do you understand that you are being the final authority of God's word? Do you want that responsibility?

I feel this is being hypocritical. What makes the KJV the elite despite all the new discoveries related to textual criticism? Do all the words in the KJV match perfectly to the Hebrew, Aramaic, Greek, Latin, German etc? All before the English translation?

 

[Lanolin]

if you can only speak one language, then one translation is enough for you. Most people actually speak more than ONE language. God made all the langauges and to say that one version of it is superior to all the others is foolish. Why did he give us the gift of tongues then.

It is not the ability to speak only english that is meant by the 'gift of tongues' lol

 

[John146]

I feel this is being hypocritical. What makes the KJV the elite despite all the new discoveries related to textual criticism? Do all the words in the KJV match perfectly to the Hebrew, Aramaic, Greek, Latin, German etc? All before the English translation?

All the words in the KJV are the exact English words that make up God's preserved words.

 

[Dino246]

I believe the Holy Spirit guided them every step of the way.

You're welcome to your belief. It is completely without evidentiary support though and as such, is just as subjective as the process that others use... and which you decry.

 

[Dino246]

All the words in the KJV are the exact English words that make up God's preserved words.

Bahahahahahaha...

That's rich... as in a heavy unpleasant odour.

 

[Dino246]

Do you understand that you are being the final authority of God's word? Do you want that responsibility?

You take on the same responsibility. You just defer to a bunch of 16th century English academics.

You cannot escape the responsibility. It is upon every Christian, no matter which translation(s) they choose.

 

[Nehemiah6]

With good reason.

With NO reasons.

 

[Dino246]

With NO reasons.

Comments like this completely undermine your credibility. It demonstrates that you are closed-minded.

This is a DISCUSSION site, not an echo chamber. If you can’t understand that, maybe you should leave.

 

[Aidan1]

Grace And Peace, Precious friend(s). I believe it is a very serious matter
to determine Which version of “the Bible” Is “The Correct Word Of God!”

I am sure we All agree, do we not, that we are All going to each give an "account To HIM,"
(2 Corinthians 5:10), According to His Gospel of Grace, To Paul (Romans 2:16), correct?
Thus, in Light of Paul's "...knowing therefore The Terror Of The LORD..." {v. 11}, to me,
I humbly present why I personally believe KJV Is “The Best Bible” to read/study:

(1) Q: Is IT not God’s Pure And PRESERVED WORD!?:

”The WORDS Of The LORD Are Pure WORDS: as silver tried
in a furnace of earth, Purified Seven Times. Thou Shalt Keep THEM,
O LORD, Thou Shalt PRESERVE THEM from this generation for ever.”
(Psalms 12:6-7 KJB!)

Now, Comparing This, with a couple of newer versions, what do we find?

NASB: “The words of the Lord are pure words…You, Lord, will keep them;
You will protect him from this generation forever.

NIV: “The words of the Lord are flawless…You, Lord, will keep the needy
safe and will protect us forever from the wicked,...

Do these Also claim God’s “Purity And Preservation for ALL generations”?

They both claim “pure/flawless” words, but, then they both
Omit Some Of: “Preserve THEM from this generation for ever” and
Change words TO the noted “Different” words above. How is that Purity?

Q: Will The Holy Spirit, our Blessed Teacher, Help us understand
“The Purity of These Words,” considering these newer versions
have Changed Them? How, then, do we “study AND agree”?

{Diligent/Noble Berean students can find MANY of These Changes
{And, Also “omissions”}, and Prayerfully/Carefully decide for themselves
about the “Purity of God’s Words,” and which version is best, for them,
correct?}

(2) I personally have decided on Both “The Purity And The
Preservation Of The Authorized Version/underlying manuscripts,”
for the following reasons:

Q2: Is The Following the “Reason” why the newer versions Cannot claim:

God’s Promise To “Preserve HIS Pure Word for ALL generations”?

Since the newer versions did not appear until about 1880,
would not that be a “Lack Of Preservation,” due to the fact
that the underlying {older/better?} manuscripts had to be
“Re-discovered/translated,” Skipping the generations since 1611?

Can that be God’s Purpose For HIS Pure/Preserved Word?

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(3) God's Pure/Preserved Word Is ABOVE All Else! Is IT not?:

"I will worship toward Thy holy temple, and praise Thy HOLY
Name for Thy LovingKindness and for Thy TRUTH: for Thou
Hast MAGNIFIED Thy WORD Above All Thy Name!"
( Psalms 138:2 KJB! )

imho, unless I am mistaken, on Judgment Day, I would Not want
one of the "good deeds done in my body," to be “Bad, by my claiming”
that corrupt/Changed/Missing words {translated from older/hidden
{UNpreserved} manuscripts into “newer easier-to-read/understand
versions,” are to be:

God's Pure Word, Which Is “Magnified Above All Of God’s Pure/Holy Name,”

would you, Precious friend(s)?
Finally:

IF it is true that “Many {~~ 64,000?} Of “God’s PURE Words”
are missing {ie: Acts 8:37 NASB et al?} from newer versions, then,
IF the “version user” Cannot read Them {because They are missing},
how is it possible then, for that one to obey God’s Exhortation:

“man Shall Not live by bread alone, But By EVERY Word
That Proceedeth Out Of The Mouth Of God!”
(Matthew 4:4 cp Luke 4:4; Deuteronomy 8:3 KJB!)?

Just wondering: How can God's "children of light" be in agreement
when each uses a Different Problematic version?: Are we not all,
By A Faithful God:

"...Called Into Fellowship With God's SON, The LORD JESUS CHRIST"
(1 Corinthians 1:9 KJB!), And, should we not all be:

"Endeavouring to keep The Unity Of God's Spirit In The Bond Of
PEACE!..." (Ephesians 4:3 KJB!), obeying God's Exhortations!:

”...speak...the things which become Sound Doctrine!”
(Titus 2:1 cp "SAME mind And judgment!" 1 Corinthians 1:10 KJB!)?

Being faithful And Pleasing to our LORD and Saviour, JESUS CHRIST, Correct?

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Addendum: Some do Not like archaic words in God’s Preserved Word,
but isn’t that Why God Commands us to “study”? I.e.:

“...we which are alive and remain unto the coming of The LORD shall not
prevent [precede] them which are asleep…” (1 Thessalonians 4:15 KJB!)

Once I “studied & found the meaning,” have never had any problem since. Amen?
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I would also, when Prayerfully/Carefully “studying, like to know," When "God Is
Addressing" one person {singular: thee, thine, & thou}, or More than one person
{plural: ye/you/your}. Could make a Huge Difference in His Pure Words, correct?

Since newer versions have Totally Lost these distinctions, considering
“you/your” Could be Either singular OR plural, causing Confusion, of
which God Is “Not the author of,” (1 Corinthians 14:33 KJB!), correct,
Precious friend(s)?

Conclusion: Besides changing God’s PURE Words, is there not Also
HIS “Command NOT to Add, Nor To Take Away From HIS Word!”?
(Deuteronomy 4:2, 12:32; Proverbs 30:5-6; Revelation 22:18-19 KJB!)

So, yes, I sincerely believe This Is “A Very Serious And Important”
decision Of faith to be made! After all, "a corrupt {#} version Will
Cause a corrupt faith,” correct? Since God’s PURE Word Teaches:

“...faith cometh by hearing, and hearing By The WORD Of God!”
(Romans 10:17 KJB!)

Be Blessed!

{#} Corruption had Already Begun in "Paul's day," thus it should not
surprise us, that it very well Could be in our midst, today, correct?:

"For we are not as many, which corrupt The Word Of God: but as
of sincerity, but as of God, in The Sight Of God speak we in CHRIST."
(2 Corinthians 2:17 KJB!)

Precious friend(s), instead of All of the Mass Confusion, is not
God's Simple Will Much Better?

The Version which reveals the word of God
Is the best version!

 

[Lucy-Pevensie]

Why would He have to do that? If one is the word of God, multiple ones create confusion, especially since they all disagree with different words and even different truths.

Which version of the KJV contains the truth?
There are many King James revisions.

 

[Lucy-Pevensie]

With NO reasons.

Sheer arrogance.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

The authorized by God Bible was completed when John wrote the last words of revelation

all the once since are translations

there is no perfect translation period. Go would not authorized a non perfect Bible, he can use it, he has been for centuries,

 

[SophieT]

Do you understand that you are being the final authority of God's word? Do you want that responsibility?

Behold, thou are blinded by thine own persuasion.