When Has God Gathered After He Scattered Without Any Repentance?
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They will if they hear and believe the gospel of our Lord Jesus. You think so called end time prophecies of Israel turning to God are future, but they speak of Christs earthly ministry and the days of the Apostles onward.
You are completely ignoring Pauls teaching that the promises were made to a man of great faith, Abraham, and to his son, Jesus Christ. You don't see the heartache Paul had for his kinsmen according to the flesh, because they thought they were the chosen people of God, but were dying in their sins.
He said it to unbelieving Jews in other places, but why bother directing you to them? Concerning the forsaken, it's always because people forsook God first, but it's obvious those who fell in the wilderness were ultimately forsaken by God, because you can't inherit a land you're never going to enter.
Bs. Jesus said that in the temple to Jewish people, probably the priests.
You are completely ignoring Pauls teaching that the promises were made to a man of great faith, Abraham, and to his son, Jesus Christ. You don't see the heartache Paul had for his kinsmen according to the flesh, because they thought they were the chosen people of God, but were dying in their sins.
He said it to unbelieving Jews in other places, but why bother directing you to them? Concerning the forsaken, it's always because people forsook God first, but it's obvious those who fell in the wilderness were ultimately forsaken by God, because you can't inherit a land you're never going to enter.
Bs. Jesus said that in the temple to Jewish people, probably the priests.
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Now there was one, Anna, a prophetess, the daughter of Phanuel, of the tribe of Asher. She was of a great age, and had lived with a husband seven years from her virginity; and this woman was a widow of about eighty-four years, who did not depart from the temple, but served God with fastings and prayers night and day. And coming in that instant she gave thanks to the Lord, and spoke of Him to all those who looked for redemption in Jerusalem.
“And there will be signs in the sun, in the moon, and in the stars; and on the earth distress of nations, with perplexity, the sea and the waves roaring; men’s hearts failing them from fear and the expectation of those things which are coming on the earth, for the powers of the heavens will be shaken. Then they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. Now when these things begin to happen, look up and lift up your heads, because your redemption draws near.”
Why are these new testament scriptures over looked? Why are they looked upon as just for the church?
“And there will be signs in the sun, in the moon, and in the stars; and on the earth distress of nations, with perplexity, the sea and the waves roaring; men’s hearts failing them from fear and the expectation of those things which are coming on the earth, for the powers of the heavens will be shaken. Then they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. Now when these things begin to happen, look up and lift up your heads, because your redemption draws near.”
Why are these new testament scriptures over looked? Why are they looked upon as just for the church?
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Now there was one, Anna, a prophetess, the daughter of Phanuel, of the tribe of Asher. She was of a great age, and had lived with a husband seven years from her virginity; and this woman was a widow of about eighty-four years, who did not depart from the temple, but served God with fastings and prayers night and day. And coming in that instant she gave thanks to the Lord, and spoke of Him to all those who looked for redemption in Jerusalem.
“And there will be signs in the sun, in the moon, and in the stars; and on the earth distress of nations, with perplexity, the sea and the waves roaring; men’s hearts failing them from fear and the expectation of those things which are coming on the earth, for the powers of the heavens will be shaken. Then they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. Now when these things begin to happen, look up and lift up your heads, because your redemption draws near.”
Why are these new testament scriptures over looked? Why are they looked upon as just for the church?
If you believe what jesus said to us christians you would already know that we are redeemed already.
So why would we look for signs of his coming but still believe in the rapture? Which could take place at any moment.
Jesus even said that Israel will be redeemed. God even called Israel his heritage.
Search the scriptures and see if it isn't so. Stop listening to the boob tube preachers who ignore God's promises to Israel.
“And there will be signs in the sun, in the moon, and in the stars; and on the earth distress of nations, with perplexity, the sea and the waves roaring; men’s hearts failing them from fear and the expectation of those things which are coming on the earth, for the powers of the heavens will be shaken. Then they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. Now when these things begin to happen, look up and lift up your heads, because your redemption draws near.”
Why are these new testament scriptures over looked? Why are they looked upon as just for the church?
If you believe what jesus said to us christians you would already know that we are redeemed already.
So why would we look for signs of his coming but still believe in the rapture? Which could take place at any moment.
Jesus even said that Israel will be redeemed. God even called Israel his heritage.
Search the scriptures and see if it isn't so. Stop listening to the boob tube preachers who ignore God's promises to Israel.
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I know that you (and others) don't tell people that. But some people make statements who amounts to that. What about Hagee's lunacies for example? In the 90s I was into a charismatic church where there was a visiting preacher who once said (about the end times and coming of the Lord): "the jews will not become christians, however they will be saved". These kind of ideas float around in some circles.
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What if the preacher said "During the Tribulation, Israel don't have to believe that Jesus died for their sins and rose again for their justification, like us (1 Cor 15:1-4). They need to believe, instead, that Jesus is their promised Messiah and Son of God (John 20:31,Matthew 23:39) and they will be saved."
Would that have been acceptable to you?
Would that have been acceptable to you?
What you want to make out of that isolated verse I would see as incorrect. I would not omit "that Jesus died for their sins and rose again for their justification".
That all the Saints of old did not have the exact knowledge and insight about every precise detail regarding the death, burial and resurrection of the Lord does not mean that they did not principally understand it. They did. Paul said:
That all the Saints of old did not have the exact knowledge and insight about every precise detail regarding the death, burial and resurrection of the Lord does not mean that they did not principally understand it. They did. Paul said:
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Jesus second coming is to redeem Israel.
This was christ first mission but they rejected jesus as the Messiah. Remember jesus returns with the saints.
Israel will make a forced covenant with anti christ but he will break the covenant .
By doing so Israel will become a victim of circumstance as all the nations seek to destroy Israel
Thats when the lord himself will come to defend.
This was christ first mission but they rejected jesus as the Messiah. Remember jesus returns with the saints.
Israel will make a forced covenant with anti christ but he will break the covenant .
By doing so Israel will become a victim of circumstance as all the nations seek to destroy Israel
Thats when the lord himself will come to defend.
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I think they rather not have to assume, as you did, that "That all the Saints of old did not have the exact knowledge and insight about every precise detail regarding the death, burial and resurrection of the Lord does not mean that they did not principally understand it. They did."
Some of us prefer to understand scripture literally. If Peter did not preach 1 Cor 15:1-4 to Israel in Acts 2 and 3, we don't want to assume that he must have done it "off scripture".
Some of us prefer to understand scripture literally. If Peter did not preach 1 Cor 15:1-4 to Israel in Acts 2 and 3, we don't want to assume that he must have done it "off scripture".
