The Babies of God

[JohanA]

I read through your post.

Good. i did the same with yours.

I'm trying to help you get along with others here.

That is impossible. God gives us Brotherhood in Jesus. And by that Love we "get along in Love". You can not do that. Except bring the Gospel to me if I don't know it. And God will create the Brotherhood.

Clearly you don't want to learn.

Sure. We are not in school here. We are in God's Household. There He gives Revelation on the Word. That is how we "learn". Which is actually not "learning" but growing up in His Life.


1 Peter 2
2 As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby:

You know nothing about the people here,

Sure. And they know nothing about me. But while we enjoy our Brotherhood we learn about one another.

so your insults are laughably irrelevant.

You saw an "insult" somewhere? When we venture into this area we have to give the evidence. If not it is slander. That happens because we are not Anointed to Judge yet. And grabbing what is not given yet. Making us "hypocrites".

Mat. 7
1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.

Go and get yourself straightened out.

When I do something wrong you just "rebuke" me. "Straightening" me out with the Sword of God's Word. This creates "fear". And people get "in line".

1 Tim. 5
20 Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.

Here is an example:
Gal. 2
11 But when Peter was come to Antioch, I withstood him to the face, because he was to be blamed.
12 For before that certain came from James, he did eat with the Gentiles: but when they were come, he withdrew and separated himself, fearing them which were of the circumcision.
13 And the other Jews dissembled likewise with him; insomuch that Barnabas also was carried away with their dissimulation.
14 But when I saw that they walked not uprightly according to the truth of the gospel, I said unto Peter before them all, If thou, being a Jew, livest after the manner of Gentiles, and not as do the Jews, why compellest thou the Gentiles to live as do the Jews?

You are a terrible representative of Jesus,

Again a judgement with no Anointing. Not being able to "rebuke" me makes for "hypocrisy". And the evil spirit of "hypcrisy" shows himself in slandering others names.

if indeed you represent Him at all.

Your uncertainty shows itself clearly in this carnality of "belittling". You should get Word from God. Then your words will not be "belittling" in an evil spirit but Powerful in the Disciplining of the Holy Spirit of Love.

 

[JohanA]

Who is [God] to you

As we enjoy God's Fellowship together this will become clear.

and what message from God are you supposed to be giving to the members of this Site?

As part of God's Family it is first of all about being together in the Family Love of God. And then secondly we will be Edifying one another.


1 Cor. 14
26 How is it then, brethren? when ye come together, every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying.

This is much more than just a "message". It is about Family Existence together where we enjoy God's Family. And as result grow up together in God's Family to become Adults in Jesus.

Eph. 4

11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:

 

[posthuman]

We are not in school here

We ought to be, and i pray along with the real apostles that we will be

Colossians 1:9-10
For this reason we also, since the day we heard it, do not cease to pray for you, and to ask that you may be filled with the knowledge of His will in all wisdom and spiritual understanding; that you may walk worthy of the Lord, fully pleasing [Him,] being fruitful in every good work and increasing in the knowledge of God

 

[oyster67]

It is so wise to give each other the benefit of the doubt. First impressions are not always the best. It is Satan who desires division and strife.

@JohanA : We have been having many false teachers of strange doctrines coming in of late. Give us a chance to get to know you better.

 

[oyster67]

As we enjoy God's Fellowship together this will become clear.

Amen.

 

[phil36]

Yep. The Babies of God does not have Discernment. Actually it is another Characteristic of God.

Psalm 2

4 He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision.

Hi JohanA,

Thanks for answering back, you've had a few posts to answer.



1) So are you now saying that God is laughing at and holds them (Christians) in derision?

2) What is another characteristic of God in relation to what you stated above. (you are not very clear here).


It is often that when someone is not being clear in so many posts they are hiding something... Or just trying to be smart.

 

[JohanA]

I will just say this.

One should not have to attack those who are perceived to be immature,

Sure. That is why I gave The Word on their situation. So it is not an "attack". But Disciplining. In the Love and Wisdom of God.

for the purpose of elevating the lack of maturity they display.

So you agree that we see much carnality here? And the Scripture is totally correct.


1 Cor. 3
1 And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal,even as unto babes in Christ.
2 I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able.
3 For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal?

And the reason is the "evils spirit of strife". Because you are divided in different groups by it. Because you say I am of this group or that group. And it is a hindrance to your Growth.

1 Cor. 3
5 Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man?
6 I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase.
7 So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase.

You have used the word of God to justify your ill- behavior and taken the word of God out of context and have pridefully inserted yourself.

I brought the Word and show you how your present condition perfectly align with it. And you got sore for the Truth. And started fighting the Truth. Trying to put me in the wrong for presenting your Baby Existence in carnality. By the Sword of God's Word.

This error.

Sure. It is some more "carnality" from your side on display. I gave you Gods Word on your situation. But you are too stubborn to accept the Truth.

it is ok because we always get those like yourself suffering from some kind of cognitive dilemma,

Some more carnality. Because you don't even know what "kind of cognitive dilemma" it is. And your strife is clearly shown in everyone having a different opinion on what is actually wrong with me.

and we are praying for you as we speak.

Some more carnality. Seeing that it is a "cognitive dilemma" you should have advised some psychiatric therapy.

Rather tell me in which of the many different groups you are? Fighting against Gods Children in the other groups. And what you are using in your group as your weapon against them. To try and say you are the correct ones in your particular group. And everybody else is wrong.

This of course is just Baby Life on display. And you are just the same as all the other Babies of God. Everyone has his "something" he is using. Against the other Children of God. His own Brothers and Sisters.

 

[oyster67]

Psalms
2:1 Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?
2:2 The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, [saying],
2:3 Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.
2:4 He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision.
2:5 Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure.
2:6 Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion.
2:7 I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou [art] my Son; this day have I begotten thee.
2:8 Ask of me, and I shall give [thee] the heathen [for] thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth [for] thy possession.
2:9 Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel.

Obviously it is our enemies He has in derision.

 

[JohanA]

"We don't live in the respect of the humans but the Superior Life of God in Love."

This comment is unbiblical we are to respect and even esteem those who are not saved better than we do ourselves. You are needing to learn the lesson of the servant.

God gave us Love as our Godly Existence together. Not "honor/respect". Because "honor/respect" is humans existence in the lack of Love.

John 5

40 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.
41 I receive not honour from men.
42 But I know you, that ye have not the love of God in you.
43 I am come in my Father’s name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.
44 How can ye believe, which receive honour one of another, and seek not the honour that cometh from God only?

In the Holy Spirit of Love you will have Life. Not in human honor.

This "respect" is asked of your Baby pastors and evangelists and prophets and teachers and apostles that do not have God's Holy Spirit of Love. Because they degraded these Powerful Gifts to mere titles in front of their names for you to honor them.

Mat. 23

5 But all their works they do for to be seen of men: they make broad their phylacteries, and enlarge the borders of their garments,
6 And love the uppermost rooms at feasts, and the chief seats in the synagogues,
7 And greetings in the markets, and to be called of men, Rabbi, Rabbi.
8 But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.

 

[JohanA]

Hmmmm, I seem to recall a recent poster who claimed that some of us "didn't know anything".

Back speaking is not from the Holy Spirit. So tell it to his face and in his presence. Because it seems that the Word say you do know something. Just very little. To make you "Babies".

 

[JohanA]

What does the 2nd pslam have to do with babies?????.....anyone?

It is the Anointing of God by which you "rebuke" the stubborn under them. Those who see and Humble themselves under the Word of God will of course not expereince it but rather the Love of God to save them from their present dilemma. Setting them Free from their captivity by their "bosses" demanding "respect" for their "titles". Long enough were they slaves for the sake of "handfuls of barley and pieces of bread".

Ezekiel 13
17 ¶Likewise, thou son of man, set thy face against the daughters of thy people, which prophesy out of their own heart; and prophesy thou against them,
18 And say, Thus saith the Lord God; Woe to the women that sew pillows to all armholes, and make kerchiefs upon the head of every stature to hunt souls! Will ye hunt the souls of my people, and will ye save the souls alive that come unto you?*n8
19 And will ye pollute me among my people for handfuls of barley and for pieces of bread, to slay the souls that should not die, and to save the souls alive that should not live, by your lying to my people that hear your lies?
20 Wherefore thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I am against your pillows, wherewith ye there hunt the souls to make them fly, and I will tear them from your arms, and will let the souls go, even the souls that ye hunt to make them fly.

 

[oyster67]

God gave us Love as our Godly Existence together. Not "honor/respect". Because "honor/respect" is humans existence in the lack of Love.

John 5

40 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.
41 I receive not honour from men.
42 But I know you, that ye have not the love of God in you.
43 I am come in my Father’s name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.
44 How can ye believe, which receive honour one of another, and seek not the honour that cometh from God only?

In the Holy Spirit of Love you will have Life. Not in human honor.

This "respect" is asked of your Baby pastors and evangelists and prophets and teachers and apostles that do not have God's Holy Spirit of Love. Because they degraded these Powerful Gifts to mere titles in front of their names for you to honor them.

Mat. 23

5 But all their works they do for to be seen of men: they make broad their phylacteries, and enlarge the borders of their garments,
6 And love the uppermost rooms at feasts, and the chief seats in the synagogues,
7 And greetings in the markets, and to be called of men, Rabbi, Rabbi.
8 But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.

Vain flattery and feigned 'respect' is indeed a poor substitute for brotherly love.

 

[JohanA]

Nada. Nuttin'. Zip.

She got her answer. Read there.

And remember to listen first before you speak. So as not to be disgraced by your own words.

Proverbs 18
13 He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him.

 

[JohanA]

forgive my idiocy

I never spoke against your intellect. But your lack of Spiritual Growth. Classifying you as God's Baby.

but i want to make sure i'm understanding you correctly,

Good words with the wrong attitude makes it all wrong. You just want to know more in order to see how you can attack me more.

you think the 'babes in Christ' of 1 Corinthians 3 are vain, raging kings and peoples who take counsel against the LORD and His Anointed, thinking to break Their supposed 'bonds' in pieces and cast them away? ((Psalm 2:1-3))

I never mentioned this.

I only spoke about the Characteristic of God in which I am taking on the stubborn fighting Babies of God. In order to survive and be more than a "Conqueror". And thus you will learn and start being strong yourself too. In the Power of God. Because you are presently but "worms" in that evil spirit of strife. While you are suppose to be a "New Sharp Threshing Instrument with Teeth for the mountains".

Isaiah 41

14 Fear not, thou worm Jacob, and ye men of Israel; I will help thee, saith theLord, and thy redeemer, the Holy One of Israel.*n10
15 Behold, I will make thee a new sharp threshing instrument having teeth: thou shalt thresh the mountains, and beat them small, and shalt make the hills as chaff.*n11
16 Thou shalt fan them, and the wind shall carry them away, and the whirlwind shall scatter them: and thou shalt rejoice in the Lord, and shalt glory in the Holy One of Israel.

 

[KingdomBrat]

As we enjoy God's Fellowship together this will become clear.

I serve the WORD, the One who is found from Creation to Final Judgement. Yahweh, Elohim, I AM, Son of Man, Yeshua [made flesh]. I serve my Father, whose WILL I desire to follow. I serve my God understanding His [Purpose] for me by the Holy Spirit that lives within the Chambers of my being. This is the One God that I serve!

As part of God's Family it is first of all about being together in the Family Love of God. And then secondly we will be Edifying one another.

Agreed, as long as all Members are serving and following the Will of the [same] God. If we're serving the [same] God, we automatically will edify one another's spirit.

 

[JohanA]

I would not worry about belittling anyone claiming Christ but help them to do better.

True. After Paul lifted out the sinful situation he assisted them with Growing Word of God to get out of it. And likewise some of you will be raptured out of this Baby Being. Into a New Spiritual Growing situation.

After reading many of your posts you appear to be arrogant, but God does not like it.

It was originally Paul's Word from God. Did he not likewise "appear arrogant"?

 

[Pilgrimshope]

Presently we have the "Babies of God" in their various groups and denominations. All controlled by an evil spirit of strife. And all busy with their various doctrines. They don't know much and they are not much.


1 Cor. 3
1 And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal,even as unto babes in Christ.
2 I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able.
3 For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal?
4 For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal?
5 Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye believed, even as the Lord gave to every man?
6 I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase.
7 So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase

“For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God;

and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.

For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.

But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭5:12-14‬ ‭KJV‬‬

I think that when a baby is new they need and require spiritual milk , John 3:16 and all of those truths about being saved through belief . But if you feed the baby milk and never turn to real food they can’t grow up there’s no required nutrients

the thing that keeps Christians in infancy is that we tend to reject the real
Meat that makes us grow and then we argue about it so that again and again we have to re learn but we reject it takes us into maturity when we accept the basics of repentance , baptism , faith ect

“Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God, Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment. And this will we do, if God permit.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭6:1-3‬ ‭KJV‬‬

When we can’t even accept the basics that Jesus taught and all the apostles confirmed such as belief in the gospel and baptism for remission of sins , repentance , eternal judgement ect

the basics aren’t for the mature and the babes remain babes until they begin eating solid food the word or righteousness they are speaking about there

For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.

But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil .

Gods living word in the gospel is what accomplished that but we can’t reject the things we don’t want to hear that’s the meat and potatoes

 

[oyster67]

I don't care if y'all think I'm a love hippie. Everybody needs to show a little more love, grace, and kindness and stand down.

Ephesians
4:29 Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers.
4:30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.
4:31 Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice:
4:32 And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.

 

[JohanA]

@JohanA: I see you're from South Africa. Are you connected in any way with New Covenant Ministries International?

Another group??

God has no group. No physical existence. That Jesus broke down and in 3 days built the Spiritual Family of God. He is Spiritual. And such is His Family.

Hebrews 8
1 Now of the things which we have spoken this is the sum: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens;
2 A minister of the sanctuary, and of the true tabernacle, which the Lord pitched, and not man.

 

[oyster67]

Good words with the wrong attitude makes it all wrong. You just want to know more in order to see how you can attack me more.

This has been a problem in BDF for a long time. I too have been guilty.