Obedience is not Legalism, it is.....

[p_rehbein]

OBEDIENCE is not LEGALISM

There are far too many people who believe that being obedient to the Commandments of Jesus equates to Leagelism, and/or one trying to do works to receive Salvation. Both of these views are so very wrong.

Obedience is now, always has been, and always will be required by God. To believe that one can live in disobedience to God and still receive eternal life borders on insanity in my opinion.
Far too many Scriptures reveal the Truth that obedience is required by God for any sane person to argue against or ignore. No true believer can live in disobedience to God. Any person who is living in disobedience to God has a serious issue facing them come the day of Judgement.

John 14:15 - If ye love me, keep my commandments.

Acts 5:29 - Then Peter and the [other] apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.

1 Peter 1:14 - As obedient children, not fashioning yourselves according to the former lusts in your ignorance:

1 John 5:3 - For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

John 14:31 - But that the world may know that I love the Father; and as the Father gave me commandment, even so I do. Arise, let us go hence.

1 John 3:24 - And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.

Luke 6:46 - And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?

John 8:51 - Verily, verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my saying, he shall never see death.

Romans 2:6
who will render to each person according to his deeds:

2 Corinthians 5:10
For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may be recompensed for his deeds in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad.

1 Corinthians 4:5
Therefore do not go on passing judgment before the time, but wait until the Lord comes who will both bring to light the things hidden in the darkness and disclose the motives of men’s hearts; and then each man’s praise will come to him from God.

1 Peter 1:17
If you address as Father the One who impartially judges according to each one’s work, conduct yourselves in fear during the time of your stay on earth;

Revelation 20:12
And I saw the dead, the great and the small, standing before the throne, and books were opened; and another book was opened, which is the book of life; and the dead were judged from the things which were written in the books, according to their deeds.

Psalms 62:12
And lovingkindness is Yours, O Lord,
For You recompense a man according to his work.

Colossians 3:25
For he who does wrong will receive the consequences of the wrong which he has done, and that without partiality.

1 Corinthians 3:8
Now he who plants and he who waters are one; but each will receive his own reward according to his own labor.

Given all these Scriptures, it is easy to say "are you not trying to earn salvation through works?" Yes, that is an easy question to ask, but it is asked out of ignorance.

Obedience and good works are NOT to earn Salvation: they are a FRUIT of Salvation. It is because of our Salvation, and adoption into the family of God, and having become heirs of the Promise that we are obedient and seek to do the good works that He HAS PURPOSED us for.

When people understand this, then possibly people can walk in obedience to Jesus/God, and not according to the flesh. And, NO, doing this in the heart won't cut it. Our deeds and words are required to be in obedience to God!
Salvation is just the FIRST STEP in our life with Jesus, not the end. Sanctification and Justification are a process that one must continue to seek throughout their life walk with Jesus. John 3:16 says "believeth" and this is translated to be a "continuous act" of believing. Not a one time thing. This is complimented by the words of Jesus when He said:

Matthew 24:13) But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

I simply feel sorry for those who believe they only have to repent and confess their sinfilled lives and accept Jesus as Lord of their lives ONE TIME; and, after that, they can just go on living. Believing that they never again have to worry about any sin/disobedience they commit. They will surely be rudely surprised come the day they stand before He who will judge.

Again:
2 Corinthians 5:10
For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may be recompensed for his deeds in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad.

OBEDIENCE IS NOT LEGALISM....IT IS LOVE!

 

[Godcares]

OBEDIENCE is not LEGALISM

There are far too many people who believe that being obedient to the Commandments of Jesus equates to Leagelism, and/or one trying to do works to receive Salvation. Both of these views are so very wrong.

Obedience is now, always has been, and always will be required by God. To believe that one can live in disobedience to God and still receive eternal life borders on insanity in my opinion.
Far too many Scriptures reveal the Truth that obedience is required by God for any sane person to argue against or ignore. No true believer can live in disobedience to God. Any person who is living in disobedience to God has a serious issue facing them come the day of Judgement.

John 14:15 - If ye love me, keep my commandments.

Acts 5:29 - Then Peter and the [other] apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.

1 Peter 1:14 - As obedient children, not fashioning yourselves according to the former lusts in your ignorance:

1 John 5:3 - For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

John 14:31 - But that the world may know that I love the Father; and as the Father gave me commandment, even so I do. Arise, let us go hence.

1 John 3:24 - And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.

Luke 6:46 - And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?

John 8:51 - Verily, verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my saying, he shall never see death.

Romans 2:6
who will render to each person according to his deeds:

2 Corinthians 5:10
For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may be recompensed for his deeds in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad.

1 Corinthians 4:5
Therefore do not go on passing judgment before the time, but wait until the Lord comes who will both bring to light the things hidden in the darkness and disclose the motives of men’s hearts; and then each man’s praise will come to him from God.

1 Peter 1:17
If you address as Father the One who impartially judges according to each one’s work, conduct yourselves in fear during the time of your stay on earth;

Revelation 20:12
And I saw the dead, the great and the small, standing before the throne, and books were opened; and another book was opened, which is the book of life; and the dead were judged from the things which were written in the books, according to their deeds.

Psalms 62:12
And lovingkindness is Yours, O Lord,
For You recompense a man according to his work.

Colossians 3:25
For he who does wrong will receive the consequences of the wrong which he has done, and that without partiality.

1 Corinthians 3:8
Now he who plants and he who waters are one; but each will receive his own reward according to his own labor.

Given all these Scriptures, it is easy to say "are you not trying to earn salvation through works?" Yes, that is an easy question to ask, but it is asked out of ignorance.

Obedience and good works are NOT to earn Salvation: they are a FRUIT of Salvation. It is because of our Salvation, and adoption into the family of God, and having become heirs of the Promise that we are obedient and seek to do the good works that He HAS PURPOSED us for.

When people understand this, then possibly people can walk in obedience to Jesus/God, and not according to the flesh. And, NO, doing this in the heart won't cut it. Our deeds and words are required to be in obedience to God!
Salvation is just the FIRST STEP in our life with Jesus, not the end. Sanctification and Justification are a process that one must continue to seek throughout their life walk with Jesus. John 3:16 says "believeth" and this is translated to be a "continuous act" of believing. Not a one time thing. This is complimented by the words of Jesus when He said:

Matthew 24:13) But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

I simply feel sorry for those who believe they only have to repent and confess their sinfilled lives and accept Jesus as Lord of their lives ONE TIME; and, after that, they can just go on living. Believing that they never again have to worry about any sin/disobedience they commit. They will surely be rudely surprised come the day they stand before He who will judge.

Again:
2 Corinthians 5:10
For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may be recompensed for his deeds in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad.

OBEDIENCE IS NOT LEGALISM....IT IS LOVE!

Now we are agreeing on something!

 

[throughfaith]

OBEDIENCE is not LEGALISM

There are far too many people who believe that being obedient to the Commandments of Jesus equates to Leagelism, and/or one trying to do works to receive Salvation. Both of these views are so very wrong.

Obedience is now, always has been, and always will be required by God. To believe that one can live in disobedience to God and still receive eternal life borders on insanity in my opinion.
Far too many Scriptures reveal the Truth that obedience is required by God for any sane person to argue against or ignore. No true believer can live in disobedience to God. Any person who is living in disobedience to God has a serious issue facing them come the day of Judgement.

John 14:15 - If ye love me, keep my commandments.

Acts 5:29 - Then Peter and the [other] apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.

1 Peter 1:14 - As obedient children, not fashioning yourselves according to the former lusts in your ignorance:

1 John 5:3 - For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

John 14:31 - But that the world may know that I love the Father; and as the Father gave me commandment, even so I do. Arise, let us go hence.

1 John 3:24 - And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.

Luke 6:46 - And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?

John 8:51 - Verily, verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my saying, he shall never see death.

Romans 2:6
who will render to each person according to his deeds:

2 Corinthians 5:10
For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may be recompensed for his deeds in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad.

1 Corinthians 4:5
Therefore do not go on passing judgment before the time, but wait until the Lord comes who will both bring to light the things hidden in the darkness and disclose the motives of men’s hearts; and then each man’s praise will come to him from God.

1 Peter 1:17
If you address as Father the One who impartially judges according to each one’s work, conduct yourselves in fear during the time of your stay on earth;

Revelation 20:12
And I saw the dead, the great and the small, standing before the throne, and books were opened; and another book was opened, which is the book of life; and the dead were judged from the things which were written in the books, according to their deeds.

Psalms 62:12
And lovingkindness is Yours, O Lord,
For You recompense a man according to his work.

Colossians 3:25
For he who does wrong will receive the consequences of the wrong which he has done, and that without partiality.

1 Corinthians 3:8
Now he who plants and he who waters are one; but each will receive his own reward according to his own labor.

Given all these Scriptures, it is easy to say "are you not trying to earn salvation through works?" Yes, that is an easy question to ask, but it is asked out of ignorance.

Obedience and good works are NOT to earn Salvation: they are a FRUIT of Salvation. It is because of our Salvation, and adoption into the family of God, and having become heirs of the Promise that we are obedient and seek to do the good works that He HAS PURPOSED us for.

When people understand this, then possibly people can walk in obedience to Jesus/God, and not according to the flesh. And, NO, doing this in the heart won't cut it. Our deeds and words are required to be in obedience to God!
Salvation is just the FIRST STEP in our life with Jesus, not the end. Sanctification and Justification are a process that one must continue to seek throughout their life walk with Jesus. John 3:16 says "believeth" and this is translated to be a "continuous act" of believing. Not a one time thing. This is complimented by the words of Jesus when He said:

Matthew 24:13) But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

I simply feel sorry for those who believe they only have to repent and confess their sinfilled lives and accept Jesus as Lord of their lives ONE TIME; and, after that, they can just go on living. Believing that they never again have to worry about any sin/disobedience they commit. They will surely be rudely surprised come the day they stand before He who will judge.

Again:
2 Corinthians 5:10
For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may be recompensed for his deeds in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad.

OBEDIENCE IS NOT LEGALISM....IT IS LOVE!

' For by obedience are you saved ,through following command s , it is of yourself, it is through works ,so that you may boast " Eph 2 .8 Conditional ,salvation, version ( CSV )

1 Cor 1.21
It pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save those that are obedient till the end ( CSV )

Eph 1 CSV

13¶In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise until your disobedient.

14Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory unless your disobedient.

1 John 5 . CSV .
13These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye so long as your not disobedient ye may have eternal life at the end and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.

 

[throughfaith]

My salvation is based upon what Jesus accomplished at the cross

 

[Subhumanoidal]

In my experience people usually claim legalism when Other People feel it is their place to tell others how they must live their lives. And put pressure, demands and expectations on people to obey the social order (that they claim is about God, but is actually about obedience to religious standards enforced by man).
It seems to me if people spent less time pointing out everyone's sins and trying to guilt, shame and pressure and were instead understanding and supportive of people's struggles we'd hear less claims of legalism and see more victories in people's lives.
As long as Christians are afraid to come forward out of fear of religious, self righteous rebukes (insults, judgment, attacks) then nothing will change.

 

[KingdomBrat]

Obedience is a way to Praise and Worship God by submitting your will to His Will!

 

[EternalFire]

Obedience is not legalism, it is ... how we will be saved on Judgment Day!

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Who,teaches obedience equates to legalism?

I think the op is misrepresenting what people are actually saying

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Obedience is not legalism, it is ... how we will be saved on Judgment Day!

This appears to be legalism

 

[EternalFire]

This appears to be legalism

How do you understand the meaning of being faithful?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

How do you understand the meaning of being faithful?

Trusting God is being faithful

 

[oyster67]

OBEDIENCE is not LEGALISM

There are far too many people who believe that being obedient to the Commandments of Jesus equates to Leagelism, and/or one trying to do works to receive Salvation. Both of these views are so very wrong.

Obedience is now, always has been, and always will be required by God. To believe that one can live in disobedience to God and still receive eternal life borders on insanity in my opinion.
Far too many Scriptures reveal the Truth that obedience is required by God for any sane person to argue against or ignore. No true believer can live in disobedience to God. Any person who is living in disobedience to God has a serious issue facing them come the day of Judgement.

John 14:15 - If ye love me, keep my commandments.

Acts 5:29 - Then Peter and the [other] apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.

1 Peter 1:14 - As obedient children, not fashioning yourselves according to the former lusts in your ignorance:

1 John 5:3 - For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

John 14:31 - But that the world may know that I love the Father; and as the Father gave me commandment, even so I do. Arise, let us go hence.

1 John 3:24 - And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.

Luke 6:46 - And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?

John 8:51 - Verily, verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my saying, he shall never see death.

Romans 2:6
who will render to each person according to his deeds:

2 Corinthians 5:10
For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may be recompensed for his deeds in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad.

1 Corinthians 4:5
Therefore do not go on passing judgment before the time, but wait until the Lord comes who will both bring to light the things hidden in the darkness and disclose the motives of men’s hearts; and then each man’s praise will come to him from God.

1 Peter 1:17
If you address as Father the One who impartially judges according to each one’s work, conduct yourselves in fear during the time of your stay on earth;

Revelation 20:12
And I saw the dead, the great and the small, standing before the throne, and books were opened; and another book was opened, which is the book of life; and the dead were judged from the things which were written in the books, according to their deeds.

Psalms 62:12
And lovingkindness is Yours, O Lord,
For You recompense a man according to his work.

Colossians 3:25
For he who does wrong will receive the consequences of the wrong which he has done, and that without partiality.

1 Corinthians 3:8
Now he who plants and he who waters are one; but each will receive his own reward according to his own labor.

Given all these Scriptures, it is easy to say "are you not trying to earn salvation through works?" Yes, that is an easy question to ask, but it is asked out of ignorance.

Obedience and good works are NOT to earn Salvation: they are a FRUIT of Salvation. It is because of our Salvation, and adoption into the family of God, and having become heirs of the Promise that we are obedient and seek to do the good works that He HAS PURPOSED us for.

When people understand this, then possibly people can walk in obedience to Jesus/God, and not according to the flesh. And, NO, doing this in the heart won't cut it. Our deeds and words are required to be in obedience to God!
Salvation is just the FIRST STEP in our life with Jesus, not the end. Sanctification and Justification are a process that one must continue to seek throughout their life walk with Jesus. John 3:16 says "believeth" and this is translated to be a "continuous act" of believing. Not a one time thing. This is complimented by the words of Jesus when He said:

Matthew 24:13) But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

I simply feel sorry for those who believe they only have to repent and confess their sinfilled lives and accept Jesus as Lord of their lives ONE TIME; and, after that, they can just go on living. Believing that they never again have to worry about any sin/disobedience they commit. They will surely be rudely surprised come the day they stand before He who will judge.

Again:
2 Corinthians 5:10
For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may be recompensed for his deeds in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad.

OBEDIENCE IS NOT LEGALISM....IT IS LOVE!

Amen! Christian Liberty sets us free to obey God rather than the sin nature that we use to be enslaved to. To be a love-slave to Christ is to be free indeed! Surrender completely to Him today!

 

[eternally-gratefull]

How do you understand the meaning of being faithful?

Can one not commit adultry and have no faith in God

can one hour their parents yet have no faith in God

can one love a neighbor and not covet yet not? have faith in God

can one wait until they are married to not have sex and have no faith in God?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Amen! Christian Liberty sets us free to obey God rather than the sin nature that we use to be enslaved to. To be a love-slave to Christ is to be free indeed! Surrender completely to Him today!

Yes I agree.

it is grace found in Christ in hs love which empowers us to love others, hence by practice be obedient children

 

[Blain]

I agree that obeying the commandments is not ;legalism I have seen some on here teach that it is and some are so focused on obedience and not having sin they lack the love of God but we will never perfectly follow the law nor should we burden ourselves when we fail to because Jesus became the law for us

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I agree that obeying the commandments is not ;legalism I have seen some on here teach that it is and some are so focused on obedience and not having sin they lack the love of God but we will never perfectly follow the law nor should we burden ourselves when we fail to because Jesus became the law for us

Who teaches it is legalism?

Your the second to make this accusation, I have yet to meet anyone who thinks or says this, and have been accused of this myself

 

[Blackpowderduelist]

OBEDIENCE is not LEGALISM

There are far too many people who believe that being obedient to the Commandments of Jesus equates to Leagelism, and/or one trying to do works to receive Salvation. Both of these views are so very wrong.

Obedience is now, always has been, and always will be required by God. To believe that one can live in disobedience to God and still receive eternal life borders on insanity in my opinion.
Far too many Scriptures reveal the Truth that obedience is required by God for any sane person to argue against or ignore. No true believer can live in disobedience to God. Any person who is living in disobedience to God has a serious issue facing them come the day of Judgement.

John 14:15 - If ye love me, keep my commandments.

Acts 5:29 - Then Peter and the [other] apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men.

1 Peter 1:14 - As obedient children, not fashioning yourselves according to the former lusts in your ignorance:

1 John 5:3 - For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

John 14:31 - But that the world may know that I love the Father; and as the Father gave me commandment, even so I do. Arise, let us go hence.

1 John 3:24 - And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.

Luke 6:46 - And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?

John 8:51 - Verily, verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my saying, he shall never see death.

Romans 2:6
who will render to each person according to his deeds:

2 Corinthians 5:10
For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may be recompensed for his deeds in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad.

1 Corinthians 4:5
Therefore do not go on passing judgment before the time, but wait until the Lord comes who will both bring to light the things hidden in the darkness and disclose the motives of men’s hearts; and then each man’s praise will come to him from God.

1 Peter 1:17
If you address as Father the One who impartially judges according to each one’s work, conduct yourselves in fear during the time of your stay on earth;

Revelation 20:12
And I saw the dead, the great and the small, standing before the throne, and books were opened; and another book was opened, which is the book of life; and the dead were judged from the things which were written in the books, according to their deeds.

Psalms 62:12
And lovingkindness is Yours, O Lord,
For You recompense a man according to his work.

Colossians 3:25
For he who does wrong will receive the consequences of the wrong which he has done, and that without partiality.

1 Corinthians 3:8
Now he who plants and he who waters are one; but each will receive his own reward according to his own labor.

Given all these Scriptures, it is easy to say "are you not trying to earn salvation through works?" Yes, that is an easy question to ask, but it is asked out of ignorance.

Obedience and good works are NOT to earn Salvation: they are a FRUIT of Salvation. It is because of our Salvation, and adoption into the family of God, and having become heirs of the Promise that we are obedient and seek to do the good works that He HAS PURPOSED us for.

When people understand this, then possibly people can walk in obedience to Jesus/God, and not according to the flesh. And, NO, doing this in the heart won't cut it. Our deeds and words are required to be in obedience to God!
Salvation is just the FIRST STEP in our life with Jesus, not the end. Sanctification and Justification are a process that one must continue to seek throughout their life walk with Jesus. John 3:16 says "believeth" and this is translated to be a "continuous act" of believing. Not a one time thing. This is complimented by the words of Jesus when He said:

Matthew 24:13) But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

I simply feel sorry for those who believe they only have to repent and confess their sinfilled lives and accept Jesus as Lord of their lives ONE TIME; and, after that, they can just go on living. Believing that they never again have to worry about any sin/disobedience they commit. They will surely be rudely surprised come the day they stand before He who will judge.

Again:
2 Corinthians 5:10
For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may be recompensed for his deeds in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad.

OBEDIENCE IS NOT LEGALISM....IT IS LOVE!

I didn't read past the first paragraph because it's just not true. Every Christian who believes God and loves God, rejects sin and tries to be good and do what God has said is good and tried not to do what God says is bad. Your premise is just not true so... What ever try again or don't or something or nothing what ever.

 

[Blain]

Obedience is not legalism, it is ... how we will be saved on Judgment Day!

I don't think salvation is something one can lose. The word save saved or salvation all mean to be resured to be protected it is a gift but when you give a gift can you take it back? No because then it isn't a gift it's a loan
Salvation is kept by one thing something unbendible unbreakable and eternal the blood of Christ. Now it is ture there is a difference between a Christian by heart and a Christian by title but the Christian by title is not saved they follow the legalism the religion a saved person adores and is adored they have an intimate and very treasured bond with him.

When you are sealed with his holy spirit you and God have made a covenant of the hearts you are in essence no longer two seperate beings but two hearts as one just like marriage

 

[Blain]

Who teaches it is legalism?

Your the second to make this accusation, I have yet to meet anyone who thinks or says this, and have been accused of this myself

there have been plenty over the years some of them have been banned no one has as of late as far as I know however this is something that is believed and taught and it is a dangerous teaching but I know you don't teach it or believe it so whoever accused you of it is in the wrong

 

[oyster67]

Obedience is not legalism, it is ... how we will be saved on Judgment Day!

Thank you. You could have just saved us 39 minutes of our time by just typing 'OSAS'. Most of us have Bibles and most of us can be Berean and read it and be guided unto truth with the aid of the Holy Spirit which dwelleth within.