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kaylagrl

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HillsboroMom said:
You may not, but millions of Christians do this All. The. Time. And you're lying if you claim you don't know that..
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What are you talking about?! Christians go into random peoples homes and hold them hostage with the Bible?? rofl
 
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kaylagrl

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HillsboroMom said:
I actually generally agree with this.

While I normally side with the liberals on some issues, including gay rights, when it comes to businesses, this is one place where liberals and I part ways.

I am a tax preparer, and own my own business. If I wanted to say that I refuse to do taxes for, say, gay couples, or Republicans, or Democrats, or white people, or whatever demographic, I should have the right to make that decision. It would be a STUPID decision to make. Why would I want to deny business? I want to serve as many people as possible. I don't care what your story is. Unless you're asking me to commit tax fraud, I want your business.
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And abortion...
 
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HillsboroMom said:
I have not witnessed such censorship by the US government. I have witnessed "censorship" by various corporate entities, some right-aligned and some left-aligned, but a business can choose its own content. It's not censorship, it's just the corporation making decisions about what to allow and what not to allow. Censorship is when a government agency disallows a certain point of view. If you have some evidence of that happening in the US, bring it forward. Otherwise, you're crying wolf.


You may not, but millions of Christians do this All. The. Time. And you're lying if you claim you don't know that.


This is not true. There are plenty of right-leaning social media out there. There are also plenty of neutral social media.
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With the first paragraph, this was in relation to social media. I never claimed the government censors ring-wing ideology. In fact, I've made a clear distinction between corporations censoring and our 1st amendment rights which are guaranteed; it doesn't apply to private corporations/platforms.

I'm hardly the representative of everyone who is Christian. I just made a point that I wouldn't ever go into someone's house and expect my 1st amendment right to be honored. As for other Christians doing that, that's on them.

We can agree to disagree on most social media being left-leaning. I don't refute there are right-leaning social media/forums. In fact, CC is right-leaning and it does have censoring. I don't expect my 1st amendment rights to be honored as this is privately owned and I agreed to the terms and conditions when signing up. That's what I want the right-wing people to understand... we can't just pick and choose when we are going to hold a particular ideology.
 
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HillsboroMom said:
I actually generally agree with this.

While I normally side with the liberals on some issues, including gay rights, when it comes to businesses, this is one place where liberals and I part ways.

I am a tax preparer, and own my own business. If I wanted to say that I refuse to do taxes for, say, gay couples, or Republicans, or Democrats, or white people, or whatever demographic, I should have the right to make that decision. It would be a STUPID decision to make. Why would I want to deny business? I want to serve as many people as possible. I don't care what your story is. Unless you're asking me to commit tax fraud, I want your business.
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Completely agree. If a racist wants to miss out on business, it ought to be his/her right to screw themselves out of revenue. Now, when it comes to public services, that's an entirely different story.
 
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ellie461

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Runningman said:
Everyone dies eventually, but "abortion", as you call it, is actually premeditated murder at minimum and genocide at maximum. What you just proposed is an invalid argument called a non sequitur.

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ellie461

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Runningman said:
Everyone dies eventually, but "abortion", as you call it, is actually premeditated murder at minimum and genocide at maximum. What you just proposed is an invalid argument called a non sequitur.

Next.
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I think everybody should make their personal decisions about that. You can't put pressure on everybody to be against abortions, just like you can not put pressure on everybody to become a Christian. I don't support abortion We, Christians can only explain to others our point of view and give our arguments, and hoping we will influence others for good.
 
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Runningman

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ellie461 said:
I think everybody should make their personal decisions about that. You can't put pressure on everybody to be against abortions, just like you can not put pressure on everybody to become a Christian. I don't support abortion We, Christians can only explain to others our point of view and give our arguments, and hoping we will influence others for good.
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Sure. Everyone gets to think and believe anything they want to. That's the way it's always been. I don't think we can actually force something on anyone. We can be aggressive in our rhetoric, but ultimately if anyone is going to change their mind then it's that person.

I still think it's ok to have confidence in a stance. You can be persuasive about your beliefs without really forcing anything.
 
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ellie461

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Runningman said:
Sure. Everyone gets to think and believe anything they want to. That's the way it's always been. I don't think we can actually force something on anyone. We can be aggressive in our rhetoric, but ultimately if anyone is going to change their mind then it's that person.

I still think it's ok to have confidence in a stance. You can be persuasive about your beliefs without really forcing anything.
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Agree!
 
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